upgrading cpu

[Mediumx]

hello, I want to upgrade my i7-9700 to 5600x and I need help with finding motherboard and air/water cooling for the 5600x

 

my gpu is 3070

 

 

 

[Dedayog]

Budget?  Region/Location?

 

ATX motherboard?  What case?

 

Probably wouldn't make that upgrade, look into 9900K as well.  

[Applefreak]

4 minutes ago, Mediumx said:

hello, I want to upgrade my i7-9700 to 5600x and I need help with finding motherboard and air/water cooling for the 5600x

 

my gpu is 3070

 

 

 

Question: Why upgrade in the first place, the gain from the 9700 to the 5600X is not that big. You will also loose 2 cpu cores.

[Mediumx]

2 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Budget?  Region/Location?

 

ATX motherboard?  What case?

like 300$ and I am from Israel 

I dont know what ATX motherboard it is 

my case is antech nx210

[Mediumx]

1 minute ago, Applefreak said:

Question: Why upgrade in the first place, the gain from the 9700 to the 5600X is not that big. You will also loose 2 cpu cores.

I saw on linus video that the 5600x even better than 9-10900k

and I also getting poor fps in cpu based games 

[Applefreak]

Just now, Mediumx said:

I saw on linus video that the 5600x even better than 9-10900k

and I also getting poor fps in cpu based games 

The 9700 is plenty capable in gaming. The 10900k is a 10 core 20 thread cpu. You cannot compare them like that. Maybe in a few games where raw IPC (instructions per clock) are king. What games, what's the rest of your hardware, what settings, what resolution etc. ? You probably can optimize your system before having to spend money on an entirely new build.

[Mediumx]

Just now, Applefreak said:

The 9700 is plenty capable in gaming. The 10900k is a 10 core 20 thread cpu. You cannot compare them like that. Maybe in a few games where raw IPC (instructions per clock) are king. What games, what's the rest of your hardware, what settings, what resolution etc. ? You probably can optimize your system before having to spend money on an entirely new build.

I am playing cs go warzone minecraft need for speed 

I have 3 monitors 2 60hz and 1 280hz all full hd

I have also 2 sticks of 16 ram each 2600speed

and I am getting poor fps on games like warzone I am getting 120 fps max with low/normal settings cs go also in big maps like dust and mirage I can't get over 230 fps only in spawn. minecraft working fine cuz its minecraft lol and need for speed I am getting like 80-100 fps with ultra

[Applefreak]

9 minutes ago, Mediumx said:

I am playing cs go warzone minecraft need for speed 

I have 3 monitors 2 60hz and 1 280hz all full hd

I have also 2 sticks of 16 ram each 2600speed

and I am getting poor fps on games like warzone I am getting 120 fps max with low/normal settings cs go also in big maps like dust and mirage I can't get over 230 fps only in spawn. minecraft working fine cuz its minecraft lol and need for speed I am getting like 80-100 fps with ultra

So what's the issue?

[Mediumx]

8 minutes ago, Applefreak said:

So what's the issue?

that friend with pretty much same spec getting 30%-40% more fps... 

[Applefreak]

3 minutes ago, Mediumx said:

that friend with pretty much same spec getting 30%-40% more fps... 

Define "pretty much" to me. What specs does your friend have. Same settings? Have you tried using a single monitor?

[IkeaGnome]

28 minutes ago, Mediumx said:

I have 3 monitors 2 60hz and 1 280hz all full hd

As @ApplefreakThis could be a huge part of it. Try just one monitor. 

[Mediumx]

10 minutes ago, Applefreak said:

Define "pretty much" to me. What specs does your friend have. Same settings? Have you tried using a single monitor?

my friend have 7-9700k and 3070 also 2 sticks of 3200 and I don't know about motherboard and other specs

and he is using 2 monitors 

 

[Applefreak]

2 minutes ago, Mediumx said:

my friend have 7-9700k and 3070 also 2 sticks of 3200 and I don't know about motherboard and other specs

and he is using 2 monitors 

 

The 9700k boosts higher and can be overclocked. The base clock is also 600 MHz higher to begin with.

[Dedayog]

4 minutes ago, Mediumx said:

my friend have 7-9700k and 3070 also 2 sticks of 3200 and I don't know about motherboard and other specs

and he is using 2 monitors 

 

Unless specs and settings are almost identical, machines can differ wildly.

 

But if he has the same things as you, wouldn't it make sense that you can achieve his performance with a little tiny effort?

 

Why would you upgrade instead of just fixing your settings or setup?

 

9700k vs 9700 wouldn't account for 30-40% usage fps difference alone.  But what fps are we talking here?  200-280?  60-75?  

 

You need to give us all the information rather than making us pull it out of you in pieces.

[Mediumx]

1 minute ago, Applefreak said:

The 9700k boosts higher and can be overclocked. The base clock is also 600 MHz higher to begin

600mhz gives that higher fps boost?

[Applefreak]

1 minute ago, Mediumx said:

600mhz gives that higher fps boost?

Max boost is also 4600 MHz compared to your 3800 MHz. That's a big difference when it comes to maxing fps in games.

[Mediumx]

1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

Unless specs and settings are almost identical, machines can differ wildly.

 

But if he has the same things as you, wouldn't it make sense that you can achieve his performance with a little tiny effort?

 

Why would you upgrade instead of just fixing your settings or setup?

I don't know what is the problems and I saw linus getting 600+ fps in csgo with 5600x 

and I need anyways new cpu to my other pc

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, Mediumx said:

I don't know what is the problems and I saw linus getting 600+ fps in csgo with 5600x 

and I need anyways new cpu to my other pc

600fps?  Okay.

 

Well since you need a new CPU for the other, I'll stop arguing my point.  

[Mediumx]

2 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

600fps?  Okay.

 

Well since you need a new CPU for the other, I'll stop arguing my point.  

bro that what I saw on is vid xd I can send link if you want 

[Dedayog]

6 minutes ago, Mediumx said:

bro that what I saw on is vid xd I can send link if you want 

No need.  I can reach over 1000fps on Minecraft, I'm not impressed or swayed by a 600 fps CoD video.

 

Because it means nothing.  Nothing at all.  High fps like that is a gimmick at best, there are some uses for high fps above a monitor's refresh rate (Linus tested this as well with a pro gamer) but 600 is not a level of performance to shoot for., it is way above and beyond any meaningful use.

 

If that's your basis for the upgrade, have at it.  If you look at other New Builds in this forum, you'll see some highly recommended B550 and X570 motherboards that are not too hard on the wallet.

 

 

[LightCrimson]

Pretty sure that CPU doesn't really need an upgrade yet, that would be wasting your money. My i7 9700F which i took from a prebuildt for my own build runs perfectly fine with an RTX 3070, maybe a bit bottlenecking combined with the low speed ram i have but im pretty sure your 9700 will be absolutely fine. Save your money.

[IkeaGnome]

1 hour ago, Mediumx said:

2 sticks of 3200

Are they in dual channel?

If you unplug one monitor do you get closer to his FPS?