Power Limit Throttling problems...

[luqiano02]

I have An i7-8700(non-k) and recently I fresh installed my pc after 1.5 years, I decided to do that because I was having performance issues and after reinstalling windows and deleting everything, performance was back to normal. I played for like 2 weeks no problem until today... I just got a new mouse, and also I installed Icue software again for my keyboard so I could mix the colours with my whole setup, and then I instantly regret it, Last time i had it I uninstalled it because after I installed it boom performance issues, And this time I thought It would be better, but no. I go in Warzone and I open task manager bcz i was getting 10 fps in the lobby, And I see my Cpu at a record high of 0.8ghz LMAO. After rebooting my pc after multiple times I download Intel XTU even though it's a non-k model, And then I saw my CPU was Power Limit Throttling like last time, but I found A fix for that by putting my Turbo Boost Power Max to 130 Watts(I know It's a bit much but My Cpu in cinebench r23 was using 120 watts, so just for safety). So I uninstalled ICUE Software, and Also putt my Turbo Boost Power Max to 130 watts again Since I uninstalled everything, but It isn't working like it was last time It's still throttling. If anyone has a Fix please make sure to comment! I noticed something though, In the picture, before The boost power max was at 130 watts in both at boot and proposed But now It's only at proposed, Not sure.   

[unclewebb]

This is a common problem recently. Some software is accidentally setting the two turbo power limits to 0. This causes constant power limit throttling. The last time this problem surfaced, some people used ThrottleStop to Lock the turbo power limits to a fixed value so they cannot be changed by other software.

 

ThrottleStop 9.2.9.8

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wLNPbLpWP0f3dBaWXzPUztCF-9e6uQkJ/view?usp=sharing

 

Click on the TPL button. The latest version shows at the top what the turbo power limits are set to. It also lets you request and lock the power limit register to avoid any mismanagement of it. Intel XTU does not allow you to access the Lock option.

 

[luqiano02]

19 minutes ago, unclewebb said:

This is a common problem recently. Some software is accidentally setting the two turbo power limits to 0. This causes constant power limit throttling. The last time this problem surfaced, some people used ThrottleStop to Lock the turbo power limits to a fixed value so they cannot be changed by other software.

 

ThrottleStop 9.2.9.8

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wLNPbLpWP0f3dBaWXzPUztCF-9e6uQkJ/view?usp=sharing

 

Click on the TPL button. The latest version shows at the top what the turbo power limits are set to. It also lets you request and lock the power limit register to avoid any mismanagement of it. Intel XTU does not allow you to access the Lock option.

 

 Sorry for wasting your time but I have no Idea how to use this lol.

[luqiano02]

23 minutes ago, unclewebb said:

This is a common problem recently. Some software is accidentally setting the two turbo power limits to 0. This causes constant power limit throttling. The last time this problem surfaced, some people used ThrottleStop to Lock the turbo power limits to a fixed value so they cannot be changed by other software.

 

ThrottleStop 9.2.9.8

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wLNPbLpWP0f3dBaWXzPUztCF-9e6uQkJ/view?usp=sharing

 

Click on the TPL button. The latest version shows at the top what the turbo power limits are set to. It also lets you request and lock the power limit register to avoid any mismanagement of it. Intel XTU does not allow you to access the Lock option.

 

 

2 minutes ago, luqiano02 said:

 Sorry for wasting your time but I have no Idea how to use this lol.

Oh And I also just realised If i stress test my Cpu right now It's not throttling? 

[unclewebb]

Push the TPL button and post a screenshot. At the top of that screen it tells you what the power limits are presently set to. You can choose the Lock option to make sure that your power limits do not get changed.

 

I would suggest exiting Intel XTU. It does not have any ability to fix this problem. You do not want two different programs writing data to the same power limit register. Great to see that your CPU is no longer power limit throttling.

[luqiano02]

1 minute ago, unclewebb said:

Push the TPL button and post a screenshot. At the top of that screen it tells you what the power limits are presently set to. You can choose the Lock option to make sure that your power limits do not get changed.

 

I would suggest exiting Intel XTU. It does not have any ability to fix this problem. You do not want two different programs writing data to the same power limit register. Great to see that your CPU is no longer power limit throttling.

So what do You suggest I do now, And I exited XTU btw, thanks for the help
 

[unclewebb]

@luqiano02 At the top it shows that both your PL1 and PL2 turbo power limits are both at 131 Watts and the turbo time limit is set to 28 seconds. If you want to make sure that those settings are maintained, check the Lock option in the Turbo Power Limits section. Once this register is locked, the only way to unlock it is to shut down your computer and reboot.

 

I have no idea what program is setting the turbo power limits incorrectly. On a properly functioning computer, you can set these limits in the BIOS and they will be maintained. Some software is malfunctioning and setting these to 0. It is a bizarre problem. There might be multiple programs that are screwing up like this. I know some people think that MSI Dragon Center is causing this. I do not want to point fingers until people do some more definitive testing. 

 

You can use the Task Scheduler to start ThrottleStop each time Windows starts up.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/#post-6865107

 

This will lock the power limit register each time. If you leave ThrottleStop running, minimized to the system tray, after you do a sleep resume or hibernate resume, ThrottleStop will re-lock the power limit register. Post some more screenshots of ThrottleStop if you need help understanding or setting this program up. The non K CPUs needs to have the core C states enabled, at least C3, in order to reach the maximum turbo boost frequency. Everyone's great advice to disable the C states is not such great advice when you have a locked CPU.

[luqiano02]

2 minutes ago, unclewebb said:

@luqiano02 At the top it shows that both your PL1 and PL2 turbo power limits are both at 131 Watts and the turbo time limit is set to 28 seconds. If you want to make sure that those settings are maintained, check the Lock option in the Turbo Power Limits section. Once this register is locked, the only way to unlock it is to shut down your computer and reboot.

 

I have no idea what program is setting the turbo power limits incorrectly. On a properly functioning computer, you can set these limits in the BIOS and they will be maintained. Some software is malfunctioning and setting these to 0. It is a bizarre problem. There might be multiple programs that are screwing up like this. I know some people think that MSI Dragon Center is causing this. I do not want to point fingers until people do some more definitive testing. 

 

You can use the Task Scheduler to start ThrottleStop each time Windows starts up.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/#post-6865107

 

This will lock the power limit register each time. If you leave ThrottleStop running, minimized to the system tray, after you do a sleep resume or hibernate resume, ThrottleStop will re-lock the power limit register. Post some more screenshots of ThrottleStop if you need help understanding or setting this program up. The non K CPUs needs to have the core C states enabled, at least C3, in order to reach the maximum turbo boost frequency. Everyone's great advice to disable the C states is not such great advice when you have a locked CPU.

I also Installed Dragon Center Today Lmao, maybe that's the reason haha, If I have Any questions I'll tell you. Thanks for the help!

[unclewebb]

2 minutes ago, luqiano02 said:

I also Installed Dragon Center Today

Another epic fail for Dragon Center. Their programmers need to get it together. Thanks for confirming that.