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Planned system specs:

 

3900x

B550 mainboard

32GB of 3600 DDR4

NVME boot SSD

650w PSU

Meshify 2 case

 

This won't necessarily be used for gaming, but I will be rendering video with Resolve, as well as transcoding with HandBrake. This machine will also be used as a home server/NAS, and as a print server, and will most likely be used to play youtube videos, do some basic browsing, and as a general backup for my gaming PC. I don't intend to run the PRO version of Resolve, since there's no monetary benefit to that for me yet, but that might change in the future.

 

So, what GPU should I add to this build? My requirements are that it needs to be available right now (or within the next 2-3 weeks), and under $600.

 

I am leaning towards the 5700 or 5700XT, but I'm not sure if a NVidia card would be better, though... There don't really seem to be any 'better' cards available right now for the same price. 😧

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Resolve? Go for a nvidia gpu, you can read more about it here. Try to snatch a 2080ti for cheap if you can.

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18 minutes ago, igormp said:

Try to snatch a 2080ti for cheap if you can.

why? it takes two 2080ti's to near the performance of a 3080 in resolve, 2080ti's have been going for 500-750, so why not just wait a minute for a 3080.

19 minutes ago, igormp said:

Resolve? Go for a nvidia gpu,

is there any particular reason? that article has no mention of any current gen AMD gpu.

 

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6 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

why? it takes two 2080ti's to near the performance of a 3080 in resolve, 2080ti's have been going for 500-750, so why not just wait a minute for a 3080.

is there any particular reason? that article has no mention of any current gen AMD gpu.

 

Because OP said:

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My requirements are that it needs to be available right now (or within the next 2-3 weeks), and under $600.

Neither of the new cards fit this requirement.

 

If you still want to compare the newest cards, nvidia still has the upper hand:

 

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Alright, so let's get this back to the original topic.

 

2 hours ago, igormp said:

Resolve? Go for a nvidia gpu, you can read more about it here. Try to snatch a 2080ti for cheap if you can.

The 2080TI exceeds the budget, at a solid $800 for used ones on ebay, and a single used one local with absolutely no information, for even more.

 

2 hours ago, igormp said:

Because OP said:

Neither of the new cards fit this requirement.

 

If you still want to compare the newest cards, nvidia still has the upper hand:

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I'm going to get a 6800XT for my gaming PC; the render machine doesn't need a top of the line GPU. I have been considering the 5700 or XT version of it, since that fits much better with my budget, and they are in stock right now.

 

I think my problem is that the $500 NVidia cards are the 2060, 1660 TI, and for used, the 1080 TI. I am not as familiar with the newer AMD options, so is the 5700XT worth it over a 1660TI or a 2060?

 

And yea, I'm not sure that a used GPU would sparkle with me.

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1 hour ago, Sarra said:

The 2080TI exceeds the budget, at a solid $800 for used ones on ebay, and a single used one local with absolutely no information, for even more.

Welp, that's sad.

 

1 hour ago, Sarra said:

I think my problem is that the $500 NVidia cards are the 2060, 1660 TI, and for used, the 1080 TI. I am not as familiar with the newer AMD options, so is the 5700XT worth it over a 1660TI or a 2060?

 

And yea, I'm not sure that a used GPU would sparkle with me.

I know for sure that the 2060 Super would fare better than the 5700xt in resolve, but I'm not sure about the 2060 or 1660Ti, sorry about that.

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8 minutes ago, igormp said:

Welp, that's sad.

 

I know for sure that the 2060 Super would fare better than the 5700xt in resolve, but I'm not sure about the 2060 or 1660Ti, sorry about that.

Resolve only uses the GPU for some rendering tasks, unless you get a $300 license for the pro version. HandBrake might use the GPU more, but for the majority of the rendering tasks, the CPU will be doing the work, so I'm not entirely sure it matters that much.

 

I guess I could just get a low power card that can do Youtube or whatever. If I was doing enough rendering to make the Pro license needed, then I probably would be able to afford a Quadro card instead of a 5700XT or 2060 Super.

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For rendering, you would want a Quadro or Radeon Pro card. I would suggest a Radeon Pro WX 7100, WX 8200, or Pro Duo, depending on budget, or a Quadro P4000, Quadro RTX 4000, or RTX 6000. Again depending on budget.

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The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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1 hour ago, wat3rmelon_man2 said:

For rendering, you would want a Quadro or Radeon Pro card. I would suggest a Radeon Pro WX 7100, WX 8200, or Pro Duo, depending on budget, or a Quadro P4000, Quadro RTX 4000, or RTX 6000. Again depending on budget.

I don't intend to buy a rendering card when I won't be using it. I'm doing CPU rendering, since I don't have the Pro license for Resolve.

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10 hours ago, Sarra said:

I don't intend to buy a rendering card when I won't be using it. I'm doing CPU rendering, since I don't have the Pro license for Resolve.

OK, then probably a lower-end card, Radeon Pro WX 3100 or so.

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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6 hours ago, wat3rmelon_man2 said:

OK, then probably a lower-end card, Radeon Pro WX 3100 or so.

I have no experience with AMD cards, so I'm doing some research right now... :D I think this might be the way I end up going.

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