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I have a R9 3900x with two sticks of 16GB dual side modules. Problem is that I got RAM with CAS latency of 19, though it runs at CAS 20 regardless of what I do in the BIOS. It's G.Skill Sniper X 3600. It's got the Hynix chips on it, and after running the Ryzen DRAM tool, I determined that this Memory cannot be tuned. At least not using the DRAM tool. Stock latencies are 19 20 20 40, and the DRAM tool spit out timings like 16 16 19 36. I attempted to use the DRAM tool's timings, but no boot... So since I'm getting a second rig, and this second rig will get my 3900x while I drop a 5900x in the gaming/rendering system, I also have the 'opportunity' to get new memory for the main system (I can switch what I have over with the 3900x, in other words).

 

So, should I go for some 3600 mhz CAS 16 memory, or should I look into something else? I'm sticking with 16GB X2 sticks.

 

Ideas, suggestions, experiences?

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20 minutes ago, Sarra said:

I got RAM with CAS latency of 19, though it runs at CAS 20 regardless of what I do in the BIOS.

You need to change the gear down mode setting for odd CAS.

20 minutes ago, Sarra said:

So, should I go for some 3600 mhz CAS 16 memory, or should I look into something else? I'm sticking with 16GB X2 sticks.

For 2x16GB go with these:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KkqBD3/crucial-ballistix-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k16g36c16u4b

BabyBlu.2 (Primary): 

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X
  • Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F
  • RAM: G.Skill Flare X5 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 @ 6400MHz 30-40-40-96
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2100MHz core, 8000MHz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB, 3x ADATASU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 144Hz Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 11 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600
  • Motherboard: Gigabyte B650I AORUS ULTRA
  • RAM: G.Skill Flare X5 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5-6000 @ 6000MHz 30-38-38-96
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 w/ LM
  • Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR200
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 2TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair SF850L
  • Display: Dell Alienware AW3420DW GSync
  • Cooling: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280mm
  • Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 11 Pro

BigBox (HTPC):

  • CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D
  • Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Aorus Pro AX
  • RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4-3600 @ 3600MHz 14-14-14-28
  • GPU: MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3X Plus OC, de-shrouded, LM TIM, replaced mem therm pads
  • Case: Fractal Design Node 202
  • Storage: SP A80 1TB, WD Black SN770 2TB
  • PSU: Corsair SF600 Gold w/ NF-A9x14
  • Display: Samsung QN90A 65" (QLED, 4K, 120Hz, HDR, VRR)
  • Cooling: Thermalright AXP-100 Copper w/ NF-A12x15
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Rii i4
  • Controllers: 4X Xbox One & 2X N64 (with USB)
  • Sound: Denon AVR S760H with 5.1.2 Atmos setup.
  • OS: Windows 11 Pro

Harmonic (NAS/Game/Plex/Other Server):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 6700
  • Motherboard: ASRock FATAL1TY H270M
  • RAM: 64GB DDR4-2133
  • GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530
  • Case: Fractal Design Define 7
  • HDD: 3X Seagate Exos X16 14TB in RAID 5
  • SSD: Inland Premium 512GB NVME, Sabrent 1TB NVME
  • Optical: BDXL WH14NS40 flashed to WH16NS60
  • PSU: Corsair CX450
  • Display: None
  • Cooling: Noctua NH-U14S
  • Keyboard/Mouse: None
  • 2.5Gb NIC
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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Just now, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

You need to change the gear down mode setting for odd CAS.

For 2x16GB go with these:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KkqBD3/crucial-ballistix-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k16g36c16u4b

I did change the gear down mode... I think this RAM is fine at 3600, but the chips aren't high enough quality to support better timings. I think that getting memory with better timings to start off with will be more beneficial than trying to tweak weak chips.

 

And thanks for the suggestion, those sticks look good. :D I'll drop 'em on my wishlist, and as soon as I can get the 5900x and a B550 board for the 3900x, those should be in the mail at the same time. :D

"Don't fall down the hole!" ~James, 2022

 

"If you have a monitor, look at that monitor with your eyeballs." ~ Jake, 2022

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8 minutes ago, Sarra said:

And thanks for the suggestion, those sticks look good. :D I'll drop 'em on my wishlist, and as soon as I can get the 5900x and a B550 board for the 3900x, those should be in the mail at the same time.

Prices for RAM change pretty frequently. You should check again when you are about to pull the trigger, there could be a better option at that time.

BabyBlu.2 (Primary): 

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 9600X
  • Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F
  • RAM: G.Skill Flare X5 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 @ 6400MHz 30-40-40-96
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2100MHz core, 8000MHz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB, 3x ADATASU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 144Hz Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 11 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600
  • Motherboard: Gigabyte B650I AORUS ULTRA
  • RAM: G.Skill Flare X5 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5-6000 @ 6000MHz 30-38-38-96
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 w/ LM
  • Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR200
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 2TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair SF850L
  • Display: Dell Alienware AW3420DW GSync
  • Cooling: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280mm
  • Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 11 Pro

BigBox (HTPC):

  • CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D
  • Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Aorus Pro AX
  • RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4-3600 @ 3600MHz 14-14-14-28
  • GPU: MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3X Plus OC, de-shrouded, LM TIM, replaced mem therm pads
  • Case: Fractal Design Node 202
  • Storage: SP A80 1TB, WD Black SN770 2TB
  • PSU: Corsair SF600 Gold w/ NF-A9x14
  • Display: Samsung QN90A 65" (QLED, 4K, 120Hz, HDR, VRR)
  • Cooling: Thermalright AXP-100 Copper w/ NF-A12x15
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Rii i4
  • Controllers: 4X Xbox One & 2X N64 (with USB)
  • Sound: Denon AVR S760H with 5.1.2 Atmos setup.
  • OS: Windows 11 Pro

Harmonic (NAS/Game/Plex/Other Server):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 6700
  • Motherboard: ASRock FATAL1TY H270M
  • RAM: 64GB DDR4-2133
  • GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530
  • Case: Fractal Design Define 7
  • HDD: 3X Seagate Exos X16 14TB in RAID 5
  • SSD: Inland Premium 512GB NVME, Sabrent 1TB NVME
  • Optical: BDXL WH14NS40 flashed to WH16NS60
  • PSU: Corsair CX450
  • Display: None
  • Cooling: Noctua NH-U14S
  • Keyboard/Mouse: None
  • 2.5Gb NIC
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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Just now, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

Prices for RAM change pretty frequently. You should check again when you are about to pull the trigger, there could be a better option at that time.

Yeah, that's the plan. It's also how I ended up with the Sniper X. I wasn't overly concerned about the performance, I figured if I wasn't satisfied with it, I could get something faster when I go from 3900x to 5900x.

"Don't fall down the hole!" ~James, 2022

 

"If you have a monitor, look at that monitor with your eyeballs." ~ Jake, 2022

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