Question About EVGA G2 1300w Capacitors

[FinTheHuman]

1 minute ago, Juular said:

I couldn't care less about Taiwanese in-cable capacitors, you're too fixated on Jap-caps.

They're talking about on the modular board, not the in-line cable ones. I'm okay-ish with the cable capacitors being from China or Taiwan. 

[Juular]

9 minutes ago, FinTheHuman said:

They're talking about on the modular board, not the in-line cable ones. I'm okay-ish with the cable capacitors being from China or Taiwan. 

Again, Taiwanese polymers aren't the same thing as electrolytics. I couldn't care less about Taiwanese polymers there even less than about Taiwanese electrolytics in cables. Jon knows they're fine, Flextronics CWT knows they're fine, why they would put potentially failing caps in there still maintaining 10 years warranty ? To lose money ? All this 'All-Jap-caps' marketing is bullshit. Some Japanese capacitors brands even manufacture them on the same factories as Taiwanese ones, IIRC Taicon is owned by NCC for example.

[FinTheHuman]

2 minutes ago, Juular said:

Again, Taiwanese polymers aren't the same thing as electrolytics. I couldn't care less about Taiwanese polymers there even less than about Taiwanese electrolytics in cables. Jon knows they're fine, Flextronics knows they're fine, why they would put potentially failing caps in there still maintaining 10 years warranty ? To lose money ?

Alright, maybe I am putting too much emphasis on the caps. I still think it'd be my personal preference to have all Chemi-Con if possible. If it's not possible, then I guess I can talk myself down and settle. 

[Guest]

7 hours ago, FinTheHuman said:

Alright, maybe I am putting too much emphasis on the caps. I still think it'd be my personal preference to have all Chemi-Con if possible. If it's not possible, then I guess I can talk myself down and settle. 

You are. 

 

You do realize that all of the Japanese brand caps used in power supplies are actually made by 3rd party companies in China.

 

The ones you buy from Digikey, Mouser, etc. are usually from the Philippines or Indonesia.

 

Even Hitachi's own capacitor factory, their ONLY factory, was spun off as it's own company... in China.

 

https://www.mc.showadenko.com/english/information/2020/n_200128h8a.html

 

So while Hitachi is a Japanese brand.... they're all made in China.

 

[Ankerson]

2 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

You are. 

 

You do realize that all of the Japanese brand caps used in power supplies are actually made by 3rd party companies in China.

 

The ones you buy from Digikey, Mouser, etc. are usually from the Philippines or Indonesia.

 

Even Hitachi's own capacitor factory, their ONLY factory, was spun off as it's own company... in China.

 

https://www.mc.showadenko.com/english/information/2020/n_200128h8a.html

 

So while Hitachi is a Japanese brand.... they're all made in China.

 

 

Yup...

 

One thing some people don't understand or know is that the Factory produces the product to the parent Companies tolerances and quality specifications.

 

Doesn't matter were it's made.

 

 

 

 

[FinTheHuman]

10 hours ago, Ankerson said:

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TL;DR: -Jap Caps all the way! The 1300w EVGA G2 does indeed have all Japanese Capacitors on the unit, even the modular PCB. The in-line cable capacitors are CapXon, but no biggie. The eco mode fan works like a charm and the unit is absolutely quiet until there's enough of a load that other fans drown out its noise anyway.

 

 

I agree. I don't care where the product comes from. I just care that it is Japanese. As you said, the company sets the quality specifications. That's why I want all Jap Caps. They are the best quality in the industry. This goes for most things I look at, not just capacitors. For me this goes for car parts, capacitors, steel (knives), Televisions, etc. If my car doesn't have at least 90% Japanese manufactured parts it's a hard pass for me. I prefer it to be assembled in the Japan, too, but would settle for USA. But Mexico or Canada? Pass. I find parts from US companies to be crap and parts from Chinese/Taiwanese companies, also crap.  The Japanese actually care about their products and what they put out into the world, and that's deeply ingrained into their culture and their sense of honor. Here in the USA I can say with full confidence that it's all about putting out a product that just meets the qualifications of a "working product" while producing it as quickly and lazily as possible. From China/Taiwan it's all about the raw profit margins and nothing else, quality be damned.

 

Irregardless, I feel like we've strayed from the topic completely. I appreciate everyone's help, but I literally was only trying to figure out what modular PCB caps were used on the 1300W G2 and I hadn't asked for a debate on which PSU I should buy nor on which caps were better. So, getting back on track, I decided to go buy the G2 since it seems none of the other PSUs in this category were using Jap Caps on the modular PCB anyway. I took the shroud off and to my surprise they are actually using all Chemi-Con both inside the unit and on the modular board! So I'm very happy! I also de-sleeved a cable, and the in-line capacitor is CapXon. Not the end of the world, but technically speaking the box saying "100% Japanese Capacitors" is technically inaccurate, but I really can't imaging making a fuss over the in-line cable capacitors.

 

Also, I made use of the eco mode switch (@Juular @cheesytacopastaman). The fan never comes on at idle, during gaming, or while doing other tasks like browsing, or even video rendering. It does come on when I stress the entire system, though. Once I get to a 650W draw, then the fan comes on, but at that point I can't even tell how loud it is because it's drowned out by the CPU cooler and GPU fans.

 

So all in all I'm now happy. And hopefully if anyone else has this question, this information helps.