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Hi I'm planning on building my first computer soon, I don’t really know what I’m doing, not sure if I'm doing something wrong.

i need the computer for games like bf4, skyrim(with 150+ mods) and crysis 3 on 1080p 60hz screen.

i am thinking about getting this

 

CPU:            AMD fx 8320 £105                                     or             i5 3570k £165/ i5 4670k £167

mobo:          asus m5a97 EVO R2.0 £68                       or             intel motherboard for £80??? asus h87-pro?

cooling:       corsair h80i for the fx8320 £68                  or             stock heat sink for intel 

RAM:           corsair vengeance 8GB 2x4gb £65

ssd:             samsung 840 evo 250gb x2 £102 each    raid 0??

GPU:           Gianward GTX 770 phantom £250    or maybe another brand??

PSU:            corsair cx600m 600w  £53

 

AMD Total: £815

Intel Total: £820

budget £850

i need help choosing between Intel and AMD and what socket 1155 mobo i should get.

thanks in advanced 

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better intel option 
 

 
CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£161.99 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler:  Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£87.00 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard:  Asus SABERTOOTH Z87 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£172.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory:  Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£59.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  (£62.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card:  Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card  (£242.90 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £866.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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CPU: i5 4670k i won the silicon lottery Cooler: Corsair H100i w/ 2x Corsair SP120 quiet editions Mobo: ASUS Z97 SABERTOOTH MARK 1 Ram: Corsair Platnums 16gb (4x4gb) Storage: Samsun 840 evo 256gb and random hard drives GPU: EVGA acx 2.0 gtx 980 PSU: Corsair RM 850w Case: Fractal Arc Midi R2 windowed 

 

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better intel option 

 

 
CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£161.99 @ Aria PC) 
CPU Cooler:  Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (£87.00 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard:  Asus SABERTOOTH Z87 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£172.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory:  Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£59.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  (£62.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card:  Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card  (£242.90 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £866.65
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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I haven't played skyrim, but I've heard that intel does way better with it than amd. I'd go this build if I were you. Although I'd probably save some cash on the cooler and pick up an hdd.

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I haven't played skyrim, but I've heard that intel does way better with it than amd. I'd go this build if I were you. Although I'd probably save some cash on the cooler and pick up an hdd.

his list didnt have a hdd so im assuming he already has one (and face it who dosent these days :P ) and about skyrim i play it allot i have a super heavily modded game but i havent ever heard about skyrim liking intel i know that they like nvidia more though but for battle field he will be fine with a 4 core from what i heard theres a weird rage of results with the 8350 and a 4670

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CPU: i5 4670k i won the silicon lottery Cooler: Corsair H100i w/ 2x Corsair SP120 quiet editions Mobo: ASUS Z97 SABERTOOTH MARK 1 Ram: Corsair Platnums 16gb (4x4gb) Storage: Samsun 840 evo 256gb and random hard drives GPU: EVGA acx 2.0 gtx 980 PSU: Corsair RM 850w Case: Fractal Arc Midi R2 windowed 

 

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CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£161.99 @ Aria PC) 


Motherboard:  ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£55.93 @ Amazon UK) 

Memory:  Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£99.99 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage:  Kingston SSDNow KC300 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  (£47.92 @ Ebuyer) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£54.98 @ Aria PC) 

Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card  (£238.52 @ Scan.co.uk) 



Optical Drive:  Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer  (£11.78 @ CCL Computers) 

Total: £831.49

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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his list didnt have a hdd so im assuming he already has one (and face it who dosent these days :P ) and about skyrim i play it allot i have a super heavily modded game but i havent ever heard about skyrim liking intel i know that they like nvidia more though but for battle field he will be fine with a 4 core from what i heard theres a weird rage of results with the 8350 and a 4670

I suppose I should have put it better, I've heard skyrim is very single threaded. bf4 isn't actually that tough to run. I have a 6300 and a 7850 and can run it medium-high settings...

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I suppose I should have put it better, I've heard skyrim is very single threaded. bf4 isn't actually that tough to run. I have a 6300 and a 7850 and can run it medium-high settings...

mmm in that case because hes going to be running a heavily modded game id go with the intel option i suggested 

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CPU: i5 4670k i won the silicon lottery Cooler: Corsair H100i w/ 2x Corsair SP120 quiet editions Mobo: ASUS Z97 SABERTOOTH MARK 1 Ram: Corsair Platnums 16gb (4x4gb) Storage: Samsun 840 evo 256gb and random hard drives GPU: EVGA acx 2.0 gtx 980 PSU: Corsair RM 850w Case: Fractal Arc Midi R2 windowed 

 

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CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£161.99 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard:  ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£55.93 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory:  Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£99.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage:  Kingston SSDNow KC300 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  (£47.92 @ Ebuyer) 
Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£54.98 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card  (£238.52 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Optical Drive:  Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer  (£11.78 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £831.49
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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This build confuses me. Why 16gb of ram and a 2tb hdd? Why not save some money and get  a z87 chipset so OP can overclock?

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I edited @SAV1OUR 's suggestion a bit to fit a 780, bigger SSD and a bit lower price.

 

 
CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£161.99 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard:  MSI Z87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£77.22 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory:  Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£57.55 @ Ebuyer) 
Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  (£102.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  (£369.91 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £848.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Setup Video -----------Peasant Crushing Specs----------- 4K Benchmarks


-CPU- i7 3930k @4.8GHz 1.4v -Mobo- Asus Rampage IV Extreme -GPUs- 2x GTX Titan Hydrocopper SLI -RAM- 32GB (8x4GB) Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz -Storage- 500GB Samsung 840 SSD | 2TB WD Green HDD


-Monitors- 3x BenQ XL2420T | 1x Dell U2713HM -Mouse- Steelseries Rival -Keyboard- Corsair K70 Cherry MX Brown -Headphones- Audio Techinca ATH-M50 -Microphone- RØDE NT1-A

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This build confuses me. Why 16gb of ram and a 2tb hdd? Why not save some money and get  a z87 chipset so OP can overclock?

First builders usually don't overclock. 16 GB of ram is future proof and cheap, and the 2 TB harddrive he can just ignore if he already has one.

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First builders usually don't overclock. 16 GB of ram is future proof and cheap, and the 2 TB harddrive he can just ignore if he already has one.

But then why put a K series CPU?

Setup Video -----------Peasant Crushing Specs----------- 4K Benchmarks


-CPU- i7 3930k @4.8GHz 1.4v -Mobo- Asus Rampage IV Extreme -GPUs- 2x GTX Titan Hydrocopper SLI -RAM- 32GB (8x4GB) Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz -Storage- 500GB Samsung 840 SSD | 2TB WD Green HDD


-Monitors- 3x BenQ XL2420T | 1x Dell U2713HM -Mouse- Steelseries Rival -Keyboard- Corsair K70 Cherry MX Brown -Headphones- Audio Techinca ATH-M50 -Microphone- RØDE NT1-A

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I edited @SAV1OUR 's suggestion a bit to fit a 780, bigger SSD and a bit lower price.

 

 
CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£161.99 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard:  MSI Z87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£77.22 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory:  Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£57.55 @ Ebuyer) 
Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  (£102.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  (£369.91 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £848.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-08 11:53 GMT+0000)

 

the psu and mobo seem a bit gimped to be honest in that id switch yours around to something like this 

DONT USE FORGOT ABOUT BUDGET WHEN EDITING 

 

 
CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£161.99 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£133.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory:  Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£57.55 @ Ebuyer) 
Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  (£102.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  (£369.91 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £930.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-08 11:57 GMT+0000)

Specs

CPU: i5 4670k i won the silicon lottery Cooler: Corsair H100i w/ 2x Corsair SP120 quiet editions Mobo: ASUS Z97 SABERTOOTH MARK 1 Ram: Corsair Platnums 16gb (4x4gb) Storage: Samsun 840 evo 256gb and random hard drives GPU: EVGA acx 2.0 gtx 980 PSU: Corsair RM 850w Case: Fractal Arc Midi R2 windowed 

 

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First builders usually don't overclock. 16 GB of ram is future proof and cheap, and the 2 TB harddrive he can just ignore if he already has one.

That's not true. You can't predict the future, so hard to say something is future proof. Not that I wouldn't recommend more ram, but ram is something you can add later, a mobo isn't really. 

 

 

the psu and mobo seem a bit gimped to be honest in that id switch yours around to something like this 

 

 
CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£161.99 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard:  Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£133.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory:  Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£57.55 @ Ebuyer) 
Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  (£102.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card  (£369.91 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £930.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-08 11:57 GMT+0000)

 

And very quickly we are 100 pounds over budget.

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That's not true. You can't predict the future, so hard to say something is future proof. Not that I wouldn't recommend more ram, but ram is something you can add later, a mobo isn't really. 

 

And very quickly we are 100 pounds over budget.

woops forgot about the budget when editing that :P 

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CPU: i5 4670k i won the silicon lottery Cooler: Corsair H100i w/ 2x Corsair SP120 quiet editions Mobo: ASUS Z97 SABERTOOTH MARK 1 Ram: Corsair Platnums 16gb (4x4gb) Storage: Samsun 840 evo 256gb and random hard drives GPU: EVGA acx 2.0 gtx 980 PSU: Corsair RM 850w Case: Fractal Arc Midi R2 windowed 

 

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also i dont really think i need a 780 wouldn't getting 2 ssd's in raid 0 be really fast?

 

im not the one to talk to raid about sorry bud im not big into setting it up i just like adding drives and using them :P but 2 ssds in raid 0 should be fast 

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CPU: i5 4670k i won the silicon lottery Cooler: Corsair H100i w/ 2x Corsair SP120 quiet editions Mobo: ASUS Z97 SABERTOOTH MARK 1 Ram: Corsair Platnums 16gb (4x4gb) Storage: Samsun 840 evo 256gb and random hard drives GPU: EVGA acx 2.0 gtx 980 PSU: Corsair RM 850w Case: Fractal Arc Midi R2 windowed 

 

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