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As a WoW player, I would go with the Intel chip.

As a consumer, I would go with the Intel chip.

The Price is so little differences, I would still go for the intel side. WoW will never be a super threaded workload.

The Intel build is my vote.

I dig the choice of the EVGA card btw ^_^

Case: Lian Li PC011-D - CPU: 3900x - GPU: 2080ti Reference - Mobo: Gigabyte - Ram: Corsair 4x16gb 3200MHz - SSD: 2TB Samsung Evo NVME

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As a WoW player, I would go with the Intel chip.

As a consumer, I would go with the Intel chip.

The Price is so little differences, I would still go for the intel side. WoW will never be a super threaded workload.

The Intel build is my vote.

I dig the choice of the EVGA card btw ^_^

Thank you for sharing a Intel opinion. I am aware of the WoW single threaded performance however when ESO is released i see my self playing that A LOT more than WoW.

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Are you sure the 280x is better?

Personally if you need the features that nvidia offers like g-syng , cuda cores , shadow play then go with the nvidia

if you want just pure performance of a card to the full i prefer the matrix!

But you have to know that is the rog model.

 

Another thing if you have money to spend little more you can get the patinum edition

 

For me i will take the matrix one,

1) Good cooling

2) good oc card

3) safe mode / turbo mode fans

4) is an rog model

;)

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As long as you overclock that 9370 to 4.8GHz+, it will do everything you want + more

[AMD Athlon 64 Mobile 4000+ Socket 754 | Gigabyte GA-K8NS Pro nForce3 | OCZ 2GB DDR PC3200 | Sapphire HD 3850 512MB AGP | 850 Evo | Seasonic 430W | Win XP/10]

 

 

 

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CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£106.36 @ Amazon UK)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.44 @ Aria PC)

Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£61.56 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.72 @ CCL Computers)

Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card (£329.99 @ Novatech)

Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.65 @ Dabs)

Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£77.58 @ Scan.co.uk)

Speakers: Genius SW-G2.1 1250 38W 2.1ch Speakers (£57.58 @ Misco UK)

Other: LG 23EA63V Monitor (£129.00)

Other: Tt eSPORTS KB-CHL002UK Challenger Gaming Keyboard (£25.00)

Other: Creative Webcam Live! Cam Chat HD 1 Megapixel 1280x720 (£25.00)

Other: Plantronics GameCom 780 Open Ear Gaming Headset with 7.1 Surround Sound (£38.00)

Total: £1153.86

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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Thank you for sharing a Intel opinion. I am aware of the WoW single threaded performance however when ESO is released i see my self playing that A LOT more than WoW.

Intel generally runs faster on most games.

People talking about multi-threading coming into play, do have a valid point, however;

Online games favor single threaded performance (in an MMO format)

 

If you pick AMD, don't get anything over the 8350. They're just binned parts with a factory O.C.

You can easily get the 8350, have no issues, or even overclock it, and reach nearly the same level as the 9000 chips.

Case: Lian Li PC011-D - CPU: 3900x - GPU: 2080ti Reference - Mobo: Gigabyte - Ram: Corsair 4x16gb 3200MHz - SSD: 2TB Samsung Evo NVME

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CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£106.36 @ Amazon UK)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.44 @ Aria PC)

Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£61.56 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.72 @ CCL Computers)

Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card (£329.99 @ Novatech)

Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.65 @ Dabs)

Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£77.58 @ Scan.co.uk)

Speakers: Genius SW-G2.1 1250 38W 2.1ch Speakers (£57.58 @ Misco UK)

Other: LG 23EA63V Monitor (£129.00)

Other: Tt eSPORTS KB-CHL002UK Challenger Gaming Keyboard (£25.00)

Other: Creative Webcam Live! Cam Chat HD 1 Megapixel 1280x720 (£25.00)

Other: Plantronics GameCom 780 Open Ear Gaming Headset with 7.1 Surround Sound (£38.00)

Total: £1153.86

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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This is a beautiful build! :D

You even have room for a second GPU/Bigger PSU if you wanted.

Case: Lian Li PC011-D - CPU: 3900x - GPU: 2080ti Reference - Mobo: Gigabyte - Ram: Corsair 4x16gb 3200MHz - SSD: 2TB Samsung Evo NVME

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£106.36 @ Amazon UK)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.44 @ Aria PC)

Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£61.56 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.72 @ CCL Computers)

Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card (£329.99 @ Novatech)

Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.65 @ Dabs)

Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£77.58 @ Scan.co.uk)

Speakers: Genius SW-G2.1 1250 38W 2.1ch Speakers (£57.58 @ Misco UK)

Other: LG 23EA63V Monitor (£129.00)

Other: Tt eSPORTS KB-CHL002UK Challenger Gaming Keyboard (£25.00)

Other: Creative Webcam Live! Cam Chat HD 1 Megapixel 1280x720 (£25.00)

Other: Plantronics GameCom 780 Open Ear Gaming Headset with 7.1 Surround Sound (£38.00)

Total: £1153.86

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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Looks great but i would want 8350 rather than 8320.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£106.36 @ Amazon UK)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.44 @ Aria PC)

Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£61.56 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£43.72 @ CCL Computers)

Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card (£329.99 @ Novatech)

Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.65 @ Dabs)

Power Supply: SeaSonic M12II 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£77.58 @ Scan.co.uk)

Speakers: Genius SW-G2.1 1250 38W 2.1ch Speakers (£57.58 @ Misco UK)

Other: LG 23EA63V Monitor (£129.00)

Other: Tt eSPORTS KB-CHL002UK Challenger Gaming Keyboard (£25.00)

Other: Creative Webcam Live! Cam Chat HD 1 Megapixel 1280x720 (£25.00)

Other: Plantronics GameCom 780 Open Ear Gaming Headset with 7.1 Surround Sound (£38.00)

Total: £1153.86

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

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Ive seen that their OC version for the normal Asus version due to £30 cheaper. Whats the difference?

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-r92904gd5

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That I know, the i5-4670k is better in Elder Scrolls games. My GTX 780 encounters bottlenecking in Skyrim on an 8350. I've heard things about WoW not receiving optimization for AMD, but I've never personally tried.

Really, high end AMD like the 8350 and higher aren't that great. That isn't fanboyism, I bought an 8350 while it was on sale, it just isn't as great as something like the 4670k.

if you have to insist you think for yourself, i'm not going to believe you.

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That I know, the i5-4670k is better in Elder Scrolls games. My GTX 780 encounters bottlenecking in Skyrim on an 8350. I've heard things about WoW not receiving optimization for AMD, but I've never personally tried.

Really, high end AMD like the 8350 and higher aren't that great. That isn't fanboyism, I bought an 8350 while it was on sale, it just isn't as great as something like the 4670k.

Thanks for the personal experience.

I will be running a r9 290. 

What FPS difference were you receiving?

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Definetly, especially if you are streaming and recording 

Changed the case + CPU to 8350

 
CPU:  AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£133.99 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard:  Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  (£99.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory:  Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£64.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  (£61.56 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card:  Asus Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card  (£329.99 @ Novatech) 
Case:  NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£82.09 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Speakers:  Genius SW-G2.1 1250 38W 2.1ch Speakers  (£57.58 @ Misco UK) 
Other: LG 23EA63V Monitor (£129.00)
Other: Tt eSPORTS KB-CHL002UK Challenger Gaming Keyboard (£25.00)
Other: Creative Webcam Live! Cam Chat HD 1 Megapixel 1280x720 (£25.00)
Other: Plantronics GameCom 780 Open Ear Gaming Headset with 7.1 Surround Sound (£38.00)
Total: £1193.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Thanks for the personal experience.

I will be running a r9 290.

What FPS difference were you receiving?

For Skyrim, when I'm in am isolated area with little AI, I have over 100FPS. Buttery smooth. I walk into white run or a large town (I modded half my cities to be larger), and I drop to 10-30FPS, unplayable for the most part.

I'm running over a hundred mods, but I never experience lag until I reach a CPU intensive moment, like a city or large battle.

Even Team Fortress 2 lags in CPU intensive situations like Mann vs. Machine.

if you have to insist you think for yourself, i'm not going to believe you.

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For Skyrim, when I'm in am isolated area with little AI, I have over 100FPS. Buttery smooth. I walk into white run or a large town (I modded half my cities to be larger), and I drop to 10-30FPS, unplayable for the most part.

I'm running over a hundred mods, but I never experience lag until I reach a CPU intensive moment, like a city or large battle.

Even Team Fortress 2 lags in CPU intensive situations like Mann vs. Machine.

Interesting, thank you for the experience. Any games that AMD was best in?

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Changed the case + CPU to 8350

 
CPU:  AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor  (£133.99 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard:  Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  (£99.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory:  Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£64.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage:  Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  (£61.56 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card:  Asus Radeon R9 290 4GB Video Card  (£329.99 @ Novatech) 
Case:  NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£82.09 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Speakers:  Genius SW-G2.1 1250 38W 2.1ch Speakers  (£57.58 @ Misco UK) 
Other: LG 23EA63V Monitor (£129.00)
Other: Tt eSPORTS KB-CHL002UK Challenger Gaming Keyboard (£25.00)
Other: Creative Webcam Live! Cam Chat HD 1 Megapixel 1280x720 (£25.00)
Other: Plantronics GameCom 780 Open Ear Gaming Headset with 7.1 Surround Sound (£38.00)
Total: £1193.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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thats a good build but maybe for a few pounds more you could get a 750W seasonic psu: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ss750am

idk if you need it but just giving an option

edit: you probably don't need it. your build is nice

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Case & Mobo: Stock Dell Optiplex 7010, CPU: i5 3470, RAM: 16gb 1333 DDR3 (1x8gb Corsair Vengence, 2x4gb Random), GPU: Diamond Radeon HD 7970,

PSU: EVGA GQ 650W, SSD: Kingston v300 128gb (OS), HDD: 700gb Seagate 7200rpm (Storage)

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thats a good build but maybe for a few pounds more you could get a 750W seasonic psu: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ss750am

idk if you need it but just giving an option

edit: you probably don't need it. your build is nice

hahah thanks mate. Looking like im 90% getting this build

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Interesting, thank you for the experience. Any games that AMD was best in?

Most every game ran perfectly fine for me otherwise, really just Skyrim and rarely TF2. Metro 2033, Crysis 3, and Far Cry ran well.

Nothing runs exceptionally well on the 8350. If the 8350 runs better, it's marginal. If the 4670k runs better, it's drastic.

This isn't to say I dislike AMD, the 8320 is one of my favorite budget processors, but the 8350 and higher are wasted money comparatively.

if you have to insist you think for yourself, i'm not going to believe you.

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For Skyrim, when I'm in am isolated area with little AI, I have over 100FPS. Buttery smooth. I walk into white run or a large town (I modded half my cities to be larger), and I drop to 10-30FPS, unplayable for the most part.

I'm running over a hundred mods, but I never experience lag until I reach a CPU intensive moment, like a city or large battle.

Even Team Fortress 2 lags in CPU intensive situations like Mann vs. Machine.

I was looking online and i saw something that may interest you. A way to make Skyrim use all cores.

Go into skyrimprefs.ini down to the first [General] section

Add to somewhere in the [General] Section

iNumHWThreads=6

That will tell skyrim to attempt to use 6 cores.

You can also try ENBseries, which has an option for the renderer to ignore skyrim's threading system.

Might work out for ya. http://enbdev.com/download_en.htm 

Edited by Midicow, 15 December 2011 - 04:47 AM.

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Most every game ran perfectly fine for me otherwise, really just Skyrim and rarely TF2. Metro 2033, Crysis 3, and Far Cry ran well.

Nothing runs exceptionally well on the 8350. If the 8350 runs better, it's marginal. If the 4670k runs better, it's drastic.

This isn't to say I dislike AMD, the 8320 is one of my favorite budget processors, but the 8350 and higher are wasted money comparatively.

What was your performance like on ESO? or have you not tried it?

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