Pc build advice

[JellyBurger676]

Hi Guys, 

I hope you are all fine. Thanks for your time in advance. 

I'm planning to finally build my own pc, I've wanted to do this for years. I'm 18 years old, I have a weekend job which gives me income but this isn't huge so I'd like to keep my budget at £700 (which actually is an enormous amount for me but probably isn't in terms of pc budgets). 

In reality all I play is Csgo, league and a bit of warzone (so I'm building this more out of enjoyment than needs). I have a i7 3700 + gtx 1060 6gb system but I want to build an aesthetically pleading build or just build anything at all!

 

I was planning to go for a white design with blue led parts. Initially this was my idea:

Ryzen 2600

Wraith Prism cooler - wanted to paint this white. 

Sapphire Rx 580 8gb special edition (sky blue GPU) 

White corsair ram with Leds that I would go sky blue. 

MSI mortar arctic b350 motherboard (White). 

Corsair spec 6 rgb case (White case and turn the front Leds sky blue) 

120mm led fans in a white or sky blue colour. 

Seasonic 80+ Platinum 750w psu. 

 

I have purchased some of this stuff already (used psu, motherboard, prism cooler). 

 

However as time went by I am realising im spending more on aesthetics than I am on performance and that I'm likely to exceed my budget on looks and purchasing used older equipment than new . This has led me to reconsider the white - skyblue build into a more black build (with some rgb maybe purple or blue).

 

So Ive been thinking about selling the white stuff and going with darker equipment:

-ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming ATX Motherboard

-Ryzen 5 2600 or 5 3600 or a Ryzen 7 2700x (which I've purchased at a decent price ) - Will the Ryzen 2700x (105watts) run hot with the Prism cooler I purchased? Or should I sell this CPU and buy Ryzen 5 2600/3600?

-Wraith Prism cooler (purchased)

-Sapphire rx 570 8gb (purchased)

- 1tb Samsung qvo ssd (purchased and I plan to partition 200gb for OS and apps and 800gb for games.

- A case which I haven't decided (black - was thinking on corsair spec 06, or 275r or 110r - good airflow, under 100 .

- I have no idea what ram would be good for this system or the ryzen cpu.

- How will I get windows 10? - can i just download from microsoft on usb and buy a cheap activation code online?

- Thinking about selling the psu and getting a 650w seasonic gold to save some extra cash - will this be adequate and give me upgrade options later?

 

Like with a lot of this crap, I've changed my plan 1000 times and have ended with a gtx 1070 ti which i think i will sell as it may be overkill and waste of money atm?

 

Im very sorry for the information overload and I hope I haven't confused you but this is my mind at the moment and in reality i just wan to build this stuff so I can go on to save for my car license

 

Thank you all & love you loads,

Pete.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[gloop]

3 minutes ago, JellyBurger676 said:

ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming ATX Motherboard

Overpriced for what it brings. A B450 Mortar, Tomahawk or Pro4 would be better choices. 

 

4 minutes ago, JellyBurger676 said:

have no idea what ram would be good for this system or the ryzen cpu.

16gb 3200mhz CL16. 

[JellyBurger676]

9 minutes ago, gloop said:

Overpriced for what it brings. A B450 Mortar, Tomahawk or Pro4 would be better choices. 

 

16gb 3200mhz CL16. 

@gloop

Hi, 

Would you still recommend me get one of the other b450 motherboards if they are similar priced where I live? - what are the differences? 

 

And sorry for the ram question but what is CL16 and could you recommend me any of such ram - thanks

[Bombastinator]

White cases cost barely more than black ones. Very occasionally less.  It’s the colored motherboards and GPUs and RGB that has added cost. If you want to run your fans single color pickiking an LED fan of the color you want rather than an RGB one can reduce cost and headache at the same time.  Less than it used to but there’s still some.

 

As far as b450 goes it’s still the preferred thing in your price range.  The big thing is it’s pcie3 all the way across.  This frequently doesn’t matter.  There are some other limitations that matter even less.  I would suggest finding a motherboard with 32gb worth of bios though.  This also saves headache.  If you’re doing a 6/12 chip basically any b450 will work, even the kind of garbage ones.  The only problem there is that some b450 boards will do more than 6/12 and some won’t.  If you want a b450 you can upgrade the processor on the higher end MSI boards were preferable.  

As far as windows goes there are people who do what you describe.  Care must be taken WHERE you buy the code though.  There are some very shady operators doing that.

 

650w is a lot of PSU.  More than is required for what you are building

[JellyBurger676]

12 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

White cases cost barely more than black ones. Very occasionally less.  It’s the colored motherboards and GPUs and RGB that has added cost. If you want to run your fans single color pickiking an LED fan of the color you want rather than an RGB one can reduce cost and headache at the same time.  Less than it used to but there’s still some.

 

As far as b450 goes it’s still the preferred thing in your price range.  The big thing is it’s pcie3 all the way across.  This frequently doesn’t matter.  There are some other limitations that matter even less.  I would suggest finding a motherboard with 32gb worth of bios though.  This also saves headache.  If you’re doing a 6/12 chip basically any b450 will work, even the kind of garbage ones.  The only problem there is that some b450 boards will do more than 6/12 and some won’t.  If you want a b450 you can upgrade the processor on the higher end MSI boards were preferable.  

As far as windows goes there are people who do what you describe.  Care must be taken WHERE you buy the code though.  There are some very shady operators doing that.

 

650w is a lot of PSU.  More than is required for what you are building

@Bombastinator

Hi,

Sorry if my questions are really stupid but im not expert in this topic.

what do you mean by pcie3 all the way across and what is a motherboard with 32gb worth of bios? (ram support?)

So If we dismissed the costs would the ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming ATX Motherboard be fine for a ryzen 6/12 or a ryzen 8/16? 

 

Thank you so much!

[Bombastinator]

17 minutes ago, JellyBurger676 said:

@Bombastinator

Hi,

Sorry if my questions are really stupid but im not expert in this topic.

what do you mean by pcie3 all the way across and what is a motherboard with 32gb worth of bios? (ram support?)

So If we dismissed the costs would the ASUS ROG Strix B450-F Gaming ATX Motherboard be fine for a ryzen 6/12 or a ryzen 8/16? 

 

Thank you so much!

They didn’t seem that way to me.  There is no requirement to know about this stuff.  If I made it sound like I thought you were stupid I apologize it was not my intent.

 

pcie is what motherboards use to attach cards and things.  There are various versions.  Pcie4 is very very new.  Intel doesn’t even support it currently though AMD does on some of their newer stuff.  It isn’t actually good for much of anything currently.  Emphasis on currently though.  The current suspicion is it will be many years before it’s actually useful on pcie cards.  It can have some effect on some kinds of storage though.

 

bios comes in 16MB and 32MB versions.  The 32MB stuff tends to do better with ryzen2

 

the strix board would certainly work.  It’s just overpriced.  I don’t know what size bios chip it has though.  

[JellyBurger676]

2 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

They didn’t seem that way to me.  There is no requirement to know about this stuff.  If I made it sound like I thought you were stupid I apologize it was not my intent.

No its okay you did nothing wrong, nothing to apologise for,

I was saying sorry If my questions were daft as my knowledge is minuscule compared to most in this topic

Buy yeah I was just a little confused on what you were saying thats all.

 

 

[Bombastinator]

2 minutes ago, JellyBurger676 said:

No its okay you did nothing wrong, nothing to apologise for,

I was saying sorry If my questions were daft as my knowledge is minuscule compared to most in this topic

Buy yeah I was just a little confused on what you were saying thats all.

 

 

No worries.  I expanded my reply to answer at least some of the questions you had. 16MB will still work, just sometimes not as well.

[JellyBurger676]

6 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

No worries.  I expanded my reply to answer at least some of the questions you had. 16MB will still work, just sometimes not as well.

Thank you so much I appreciate it!

[Bombastinator]

12 minutes ago, JellyBurger676 said:

Thank you so much I appreciate it!

NP.