First Build.

[SomethingSomewhatClever]

Budget (including currency): $1800CAN (although that seems to have gone out the window)

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: CIV6 at 4K

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): no need for any other peripherals. while I only intend to play Civ6 at the moment I want to give myself some room to play other games in the future. This is a large investment for me and I'd like it to last a while.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$196.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX Z390-I GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard	$273.76 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$78.98 @ Amazon
Storage	Western Digital SN750 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$179.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card	$485.58 @ Amazon
Case	Lian Li TU150 Mini ITX Desktop Case	$109.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair SF 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply	$184.99 @ Best Buy
Case Fan	be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120 mm Fan	$22.80 @ Amazon
Case Fan	be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120 mm Fan	$22.80 @ Amazon
Case Fan	be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120 mm Fan	$22.80 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1578.68
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-21 09:22 EDT-0400

 

Hey All,

 

I've watched build logs and tech reviews (especially LTT) for the past five years and now I'm super excited to be building my very own. However, that is easier said then done and choosing the parts while staying within budget has just about driven me crazy so I've come for advice. Bearing in my that I need a SFF build because my apartment is tiny, and I'd ideally like to keep my current case selection if for no other reason then because the handle is cool. Now, questions:

1. Do I need the Noctua? It's hard to find in Canada and I'm worried it might be overkill for an I5, then again its in a small case so I know cooling, especially quiet cooling will always be a struggle...
2. Is there any way to have off a couple hundred dollars without compromising build quality and performance? I know the motherboard is pricey but from what I understand its one of the few that can take full advantage of the front USB 3.1 gen 2 port on the TU 150 mini.
3. any general incompatibilities that I should be aware of? I know the noctua cooler needs low profile ram and I've got that covered but I'm sure I missed something.

Any other advice is also greatly appreciated. 

 

 

[Hold-Ma-Beer]

@SomethingSomewhatClever I think, at this time, AMD Ryzen should be a no brainer??

The Ryzen 5 series would be suitable for your budget and don't forget the future upgradibility you've got with AMD. According to me, at lower and mid-high range, AMD has no competition, unless Intel does something groundbreaking that is

[Avocheeseado]

40 minutes ago, SomethingSomewhatClever said:

Budget (including currency): $1800CAN (although that seems to have gone out the window)

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: CIV6 at 4K

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): no need for any other peripherals. while I only intend to play Civ6 at the moment I want to give myself some room to play other games in the future. This is a large investment for me and I'd like it to last a while.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$196.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX Z390-I GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard	$273.76 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$78.98 @ Amazon
Storage	Western Digital SN750 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$179.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card	$485.58 @ Amazon
Case	Lian Li TU150 Mini ITX Desktop Case	$109.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair SF 750 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply	$184.99 @ Best Buy
Case Fan	be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120 mm Fan	$22.80 @ Amazon
Case Fan	be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120 mm Fan	$22.80 @ Amazon
Case Fan	be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120 mm Fan	$22.80 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1578.68
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-21 09:22 EDT-0400

 

Hey All,

 

I've watched build logs and tech reviews (especially LTT) for the past five years and now I'm super excited to be building my very own. However, that is easier said then done and choosing the parts while staying within budget has just about driven me crazy so I've come for advice. Bearing in my that I need a SFF build because my apartment is tiny, and I'd ideally like to keep my current case selection if for no other reason then because the handle is cool. Now, questions:

1. Do I need the Noctua? It's hard to find in Canada and I'm worried it might be overkill for an I5, then again its in a small case so I know cooling, especially quiet cooling will always be a struggle...
2. Is there any way to have off a couple hundred dollars without compromising build quality and performance? I know the motherboard is pricey but from what I understand its one of the few that can take full advantage of the front USB 3.1 gen 2 port on the TU 150 mini.
3. any general incompatibilities that I should be aware of? I know the noctua cooler needs low profile ram and I've got that covered but I'm sure I missed something.

Any other advice is also greatly appreciated. 

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$187.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard	$179.99 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$79.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Sabrent Rocket Q 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$119.98 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$54.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB Video Card	$699.99 @ Best Buy
Power Supply	Cooler Master MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ Best Buy
Case Fan	be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120 mm Fan	$22.80 @ Amazon
Case Fan	be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120 mm Fan	$22.80 @ Amazon
Custom	Lian Li TU150 Mini ITX Desktop Case	$109.99
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1578.51
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-21 10:14 EDT-0400

 

[Guest]

50 minutes ago, Avocheeseado said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$187.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard	$179.99 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$79.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Sabrent Rocket Q 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$119.98 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$54.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB Video Card	$699.99 @ Best Buy
Power Supply	Cooler Master MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ Best Buy
Case Fan	be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120 mm Fan	$22.80 @ Amazon
Case Fan	be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120 mm Fan	$22.80 @ Amazon
Custom	Lian Li TU150 Mini ITX Desktop Case	$109.99
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1578.51
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-21 10:14 EDT-0400

 

That power supply won't fit in the Lian-Li case.

[SomethingSomewhatClever]

1 hour ago, Hold-Ma-Beer said:

@SomethingSomewhatClever I think, at this time, AMD Ryzen should be a no brainer??

The Ryzen 5 series would be suitable for your budget and don't forget the future upgradibility you've got with AMD. According to me, at lower and mid-high range, AMD has no competition, unless Intel does something groundbreaking that is

You're probably right, I guess I was thinking that Civ6 depends on the CPU for turn times and intel has the edge but is it worth the cost?

[SomethingSomewhatClever]

1 hour ago, Avocheeseado said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$187.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard	$179.99 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$79.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Sabrent Rocket Q 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$119.98 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$54.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB Video Card	$699.99 @ Best Buy
Power Supply	Cooler Master MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ Best Buy
Case Fan	be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120 mm Fan	$22.80 @ Amazon
Case Fan	be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120 mm Fan	$22.80 @ Amazon
Custom	Lian Li TU150 Mini ITX Desktop Case	$109.99
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1578.51
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-21 10:14 EDT-0400

 

thanks for taking the time to revamp my list! IDK if US pricing is just that different or what but I'll probably have to ditch the 2080 super as its $1,400 here in maple syrup land. our money, while colorful, does not have as much buying power.

[SomethingSomewhatClever]

26 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

That power supply won't fit in the Lian-Li case.

good catch! I tough it was compatible but i'll have to double check. I'll probably be going with a 600W gold anyways

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, SomethingSomewhatClever said:

good catch! I tough it was compatible but i'll have to double check. I'll probably be going with a 600W gold anyways

The one you chose will fit (Corsair SF) but there have been some recall issues with that unit. It is a good psu though if you manage to get one of the unaffected ones.

 

https://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=197081&utm_source=Future PLC._221109&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=490888_Online Tracking Link&utm_content=Content&clickid=WCTQQ7WwixyOT2qwUx0Mo3ERUkiynX1pNR1CVw0&irgwc=1

[SomethingSomewhatClever]

3 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

The one you chose will fit (Corsair SF) but there have been some recall issues with that unit. It is a good psu though if you manage to get one of the unaffected ones.

 

https://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=197081&utm_source=Future PLC._221109&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=490888_Online Tracking Link&utm_content=Content&clickid=WCTQQ7WwixyOT2qwUx0Mo3ERUkiynX1pNR1CVw0&irgwc=1

Huh, I guess that's why it always pays to post to the forums. That's something I would have never caught.

[dizmo]

You have to redo your build. You made it on PCPartPicker with the US pricing, so it's not relevant.

As others have said, you're better off going Ryzen at the moment. The 10600k is a pretty solid processor as well though. Depends what your goals are.

I'd definitely get a cooler, however there are lots of good cheaper coolers; Scythe makes quite a few.

 

@Avocheeseado You need to redo your build in CAD, not USD.

[Avocheeseado]

1 hour ago, lee32uk said:

That power supply won't fit in the Lian-Li case.

Oh yeah sorry my bad

[SomethingSomewhatClever]

4 hours ago, dizmo said:

You have to redo your build. You made it on PCPartPicker with the US pricing, so it's not relevant.

As others have said, you're better off going Ryzen at the moment. The 10600k is a pretty solid processor as well though. Depends what your goals are.

I'd definitely get a cooler, however there are lots of good cheaper coolers; Scythe makes quite a few.

 

@Avocheeseado You need to redo your build in CAD, not USD.

that's fair. judging by the feedback on here (awesome community btw) i went with an AMD build. Which I think fits the bill. I'll post it here since i'm not sure if i'm allowed to post a second a second topic so soon.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$408.47 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard	Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory	$86.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$157.50 @ Vuugo
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card	$579.50 @ Vuugo
Case	Lian Li TU150 Mini ITX Desktop Case	$129.99 @ Canada Computers
Power Supply	Corsair SF 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply	$184.99 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fan	be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120 mm Fan	$29.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1577.43
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-21 16:49 EDT-0400

 

 

[dizmo]

23 minutes ago, SomethingSomewhatClever said:

that's fair. judging by the feedback on here (awesome community btw) i went with an AMD build. Which I think fits the bill. I'll post it here since i'm not sure if i'm allowed to post a second a second topic so soon.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$408.47 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard	Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory	$86.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage	Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$157.50 @ Vuugo
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card	$579.50 @ Vuugo
Case	Lian Li TU150 Mini ITX Desktop Case	$129.99 @ Canada Computers
Power Supply	Corsair SF 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply	$184.99 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fan	be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM 50.5 CFM 120 mm Fan	$29.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1577.43
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-21 16:49 EDT-0400

 

 

Not bad, as long as you're ok with having a processor that will be replaced by something newer in a couple of months.

I'd also get a cheap, used graphics card, and buy a new 3000 series card when it comes out.

[Hold-Ma-Beer]

@SomethingSomewhatClever Damn bro, that's a good jump from a 6C/6T to a 8C/16T processor! That would be more than enough for CIV6 because they are more CPU intensive, and having more cores and threads only helps.

I'll be honest with you and recommend you to go for other brands for motherboard rather than Gigabyte.. Its from my personal experience that they are a pain to overclock on....

ASUS/MSI have way better bios in terms of overclocking.

IT's not that Gigabyte mobos aren't good, but just they are just messing the CPU overclocking settings recently... But if you're going to stay on stock settings, go for it.

 

[Hold-Ma-Beer]

@dizmo Brother, the point here ain't to get the latest and greatest  The R7 3700X will be a beast in this build and serve the PURPOSE greatly.

[dizmo]

3 hours ago, Hold-Ma-Beer said:

@dizmo Brother, the point here ain't to get the latest and greatest  The R7 3700X will be a beast in this build and serve the PURPOSE greatly.

So you like paying more for less performance? I see.

[Serpius]

On 6/21/2020 at 9:33 AM, SomethingSomewhatClever said:

Budget (including currency): $1800CAN (although that seems to have gone out the window)

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: CIV6 at 4K

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): no need for any other peripherals. while I only intend to play Civ6 at the moment I want to give myself some room to play other games in the future. This is a large investment for me and I'd like it to last a while.

 

Hey All,

 

I've watched build logs and tech reviews (especially LTT) for the past five years and now I'm super excited to be building my very own. However, that is easier said then done and choosing the parts while staying within budget has just about driven me crazy so I've come for advice. Bearing in my that I need a SFF build because my apartment is tiny, and I'd ideally like to keep my current case selection if for no other reason then because the handle is cool. Now, questions:

1. Do I need the Noctua? It's hard to find in Canada and I'm worried it might be overkill for an I5, then again its in a small case so I know cooling, especially quiet cooling will always be a struggle...
2. Is there any way to have off a couple hundred dollars without compromising build quality and performance? I know the motherboard is pricey but from what I understand its one of the few that can take full advantage of the front USB 3.1 gen 2 port on the TU 150 mini.
3. any general incompatibilities that I should be aware of? I know the noctua cooler needs low profile ram and I've got that covered but I'm sure I missed something.

Any other advice is also greatly appreciated. 

 

 

 

Go with this build. 

 

Faster processor. Stock Wraith CPU cooler is an excellent choice along with 2 additional case fans.

2 - 7200 RPM hard drives - One will function as a backup (redundant) drive in case of failure in the 1st HDD.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($319.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Steel Legend Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($249.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory  ($88.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($97.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB OC Video Card  ($380.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Corsair 110R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case Fan: Rosewill Hyperborea 57.53 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($18.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case Fan: Rosewill Hyperborea 57.53 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($18.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1505.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-22 12:05 EDT-0400

[SomethingSomewhatClever]

19 hours ago, dizmo said:

Not bad, as long as you're ok with having a processor that will be replaced by something newer in a couple of months.

I'd also get a cheap, used graphics card, and buy a new 3000 series card when it comes out.

I get it, and while I do like the concept of a no-compromises build I don't have the cash to actually build one. Its kinda a bad time to build a new rig what with supply shortages and the upcoming releases that you've pointed out but at the end of the day I just want to play Civ6 on something other then my Dell Inspiron from 2017 lol

[Hold-Ma-Beer]

1 hour ago, dizmo said:

So you like paying more for less performance? I see.

Will the new chip be less expensive than existing one?! Damn where is your logic at?

[SomethingSomewhatClever]

4 hours ago, Hold-Ma-Beer said:

@SomethingSomewhatClever Damn bro, that's a good jump from a 6C/6T to a 8C/16T processor! That would be more than enough for CIV6 because they are more CPU intensive, and having more cores and threads only helps.

I'll be honest with you and recommend you to go for other brands for motherboard rather than Gigabyte.. Its from my personal experience that they are a pain to overclock on....

ASUS/MSI have way better bios in terms of overclocking.

IT's not that Gigabyte mobos aren't good, but just they are just messing the CPU overclocking settings recently... But if you're going to stay on stock settings, go for it.

 

I haven't given any thought to overclocking and a quick google search makes me question how useful overclocking would be, on the other hand the 

Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard is 50$ cheaper then the gigabyte board so i'll probably switch motherboards anyways so long as I don't lose too many features along the way.

[SomethingSomewhatClever]

52 minutes ago, Buzzsaw said:

 

Go with this build. 

 

Faster processor. Stock Wraith CPU cooler is an excellent choice along with 2 additional case fans.

2 - 7200 RPM hard drives - One will function as a backup (redundant) drive in case of failure in the 1st HDD.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($319.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Steel Legend Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($249.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory  ($88.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Storage: Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($97.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB OC Video Card  ($380.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case: Corsair 110R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Power Supply: Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case Fan: Rosewill Hyperborea 57.53 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($18.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case Fan: Rosewill Hyperborea 57.53 CFM 120 mm Fan  ($18.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1505.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-22 12:05 EDT-0400

hey man thx for taking the time to build me a PC, I don't know how you guys do it so off the cuff. While its a good set-up I don't think it would be a good setup for me. A SFF case is a must since I'll already be gaming on the kitchen table so I don't even want to try and convince my gf about having a mid-tower, the miniITX was hard enough lol! In addition my latest AMD-focused build (i know i changed my build on you lol) lets me squeeze both a 3700x and a 2060 Super out of my budget.

[Hold-Ma-Beer]

4 minutes ago, SomethingSomewhatClever said:

I haven't given any thought to overclocking and a quick google search makes me question how useful overclocking would be, on the other hand the 

Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard is 50$ cheaper then the gigabyte board so i'll probably switch motherboards anyways so long as I don't lose too many features along the way.

Ah, you're switching from a B550 to a B450, that is why the price is lower? (If you're following the AMD build list)

I think if you're not someone who want "Balls to the walls" top tier build, get a B450 like the one you chose, since you'll technically still be able to upgrade to all newer chips and their prices will also drop due to launch of new hardware

[dizmo]

45 minutes ago, SomethingSomewhatClever said:

I get it, and while I do like the concept of a no-compromises build I don't have the cash to actually build one. Its kinda a bad time to build a new rig what with supply shortages and the upcoming releases that you've pointed out but at the end of the day I just want to play Civ6 on something other then my Dell Inspiron from 2017 lol

What do you mean? You clearly have the cash, it's not costing you any more to do what I suggested.

33 minutes ago, Hold-Ma-Beer said:

Will the new chip be less expensive than existing one?! Damn where is your logic at?

In regards to the GPU? Absolutely. You can step down a tier and get the same performance.