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8 minutes ago, finitr0n said:

I am on the fence between distilled water with pt nuke and some sort of corrosion inhibitor, or distilled water and something like primochill's liquid utopia (biocide and corrosion inhibitor concentrate). 

I guess why are you on the fence..? I have had a loop go untouched for about 1.5-2 years, just distilled water and a silver kill coil. I try and do loop maintenance every year, but it just doesn’t always happen. I have never had any algae grow, and I run copper rads and copper blocks so no corrosion issues. 

So I built a brand new loop recently, cooling a 3700x with a 360mm rad (cleaned the rad with hot water and vinegar and flushed it thoroughly with distilled water as well as leak testing for a few hours with distilled water, before flushing the loop with what was left out of the gallon of distilled water).  I am curious if anyone has had any trouble with mayhems x1 eco clear premix, because it turned cloudy enough that I can't see through my res in just a few days and I can occasionally see what looks like sediment when colored fluids fall out flowing around in the tubing. 

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37 minutes ago, finitr0n said:

So I built a brand new loop recently, cooling a 3700x with a 360mm rad (cleaned the rad with hot water and vinegar and flushed it thoroughly with distilled water as well as leak testing for a few hours with distilled water, before flushing the loop with what was left out of the gallon of distilled water).  I am curious if anyone has had any trouble with mayhems x1 eco clear premix, because it turned cloudy enough that I can't see through my res in just a few days and I can occasionally see what looks like sediment when colored fluids fall out flowing around in the tubing. 

Why not just use distilled water..? 
 

I run distilled water, a single small drop of soap in the gallon jug it comes in to help remove bubbles from the loop, and a silver kill coil to keep anything from growing. Simple, effective, and basically free. 

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8 minutes ago, finitr0n said:

I am on the fence between distilled water with pt nuke and some sort of corrosion inhibitor, or distilled water and something like primochill's liquid utopia (biocide and corrosion inhibitor concentrate). 

I guess why are you on the fence..? I have had a loop go untouched for about 1.5-2 years, just distilled water and a silver kill coil. I try and do loop maintenance every year, but it just doesn’t always happen. I have never had any algae grow, and I run copper rads and copper blocks so no corrosion issues. 

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Just a matter of whats easier and cheaper, the primochill stuff is around 15 bucks usd on amazon prime.  In theory i shouldn't need a corrosion inhibitor, using an ek cooper block and a cooper xspc rad, but if I can get the liquid utopia for close to what just a biocide costs, I might as well.  I am kind of weary and undecided though because I know pt nuke won't color the water since I've used it before, but I worry if primochill or ek additives might cause the water to cloud up like the mayhem fluid did.  But in theory, the additives shouldnt matter in terms of clouding just distilled water, right?

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7 hours ago, finitr0n said:

I found a silver coil on amazon for 6.39 usd on prime, prolly just gonna drain and flush and drop it in my res.  Thanks for the input. :)

Just a word of warning if you have any nickel material in your loop, ie blocks fittings etc, you cannot use silver as they are borderline dissimilar metals in a loop environment. I personally am in the recommendation for premixed fluids as they come with the proper biocides and anti-corrosive agents. 

 

Also what specific components do you have in your loop? Being that's it's new components unless it was not flushed cleaned completely or had a reaction with some residual cleaner/vingear it's not normal for it to go cloudy. 

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No nickel, using an ek supremecy block, d5 pump with a basic plastic top (one of the barebones built in 1/2 barb ones), alpha cool eisbecher helix res, and an xspc copper rad.  I know its not normal, not sure if its because its a vegetable extract based fluid or I got a bad batch or something.  I rinsed the rad out after cleaning using the same method (filling it mostly full, covering the ports and sloshing it around) just with distilled water 3 or 4 times, and I flushed the loop with at least half a gallon of distilled water (however mush was left) after i leak tested it before putting the fluid in. 

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1 hour ago, finitr0n said:

No nickel, using an ek supremecy block, d5 pump with a basic plastic top (one of the barebones built in 1/2 barb ones), alpha cool eisbecher helix res, and an xspc copper rad.  I know its not normal, not sure if its because its a vegetable extract based fluid or I got a bad batch or something.  I rinsed the rad out after cleaning using the same method (filling it mostly full, covering the ports and sloshing it around) just with distilled water 3 or 4 times, and I flushed the loop with at least half a gallon of distilled water (however mush was left) after i leak tested it before putting the fluid in. 

 

Unless the EK block is a Copper + Plexi version, it will be nickel plated. Be careful with silver coils they will evnetualy cause nickel plating to corrode and flake of.

 

I personally just used distilled + Mayhems Biocide and Mayhems Inhibitor.

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