ryzen 7 2700x / r5 3600x Cant decide

[Lam16]

Im trying to choose a processor, im stuck between the ryzen 7 2700x vs ryzen 5 3600, which one will be better for editing. I would like to get the r7 3800 but the cost of the cpu will cost me my kidney. Please help me out. And also is the 1650 better than the rx570. Editing primarily on premiere and davinci. Thank you

Edited June 14, 2020 by Lam16
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[Lam16]

Will the few cores of the r5 3600 be a problem? 

[Lam16]

Thank you

 

[toxsickcity]

I like to think of zen2 3600 will have huge IPC increase over zen+ 2700

 

Most benchmarks show the two processors are fairly close in all core performance because of that IPC!!

 

I if I was you would go that 3600 because it would boost to high clock speeds for superior single thread performance and the 12 threads is very good!.. idea is to wait a bit and see if price drops further due to the new refreshed  processors do anything to pricing..

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, toxsickcity said:

like to think of zen2 3600 will have huge IPC increase over zen+ 2700

There is an ipc difference and a better fpu on the zen 2 side of things but the extra cores and threads will matter more with editing 

 

3 minutes ago, toxsickcity said:

Most benchmarks show the two processors are fairly close in all core performance because of that IPC

In gaming yes 

In work loads the 2700x will beat the 3600

3 minutes ago, toxsickcity said:

if I was you would go that 3600 because it would boost to high clock speeds for superior single thread

OP needs it for editing tho 

[toxsickcity]

Like I said, the single thread performance will matter, when all cores are not being used, most editing programs will infact sometimes need that extra performance for some tasks of the editing.

 

EG: Blender, if your setting up simulations and physics alot of the coding is not going to use all cores and the boost/ipc/ghz of the 3600 will help... alot!!!!!

 

Photoshop, is going to be better for faster GHZ so the 3600 will win

 

Video editing / conversions:

XVID4PSP converter( Handbrake type app), will often use 60-70% of a cpu depend of settings maybe go higher. 3600 would be close if not win, multiple instantces of XVID4PSP and render parallel workloads the 2700 will win, but not by alot!

Premiere is kind of funny with amd, the 2700 and 3600 will be very close.

 

I still stand by the idea of the faster IPC/ Faster boost of the 3600 is best

 

best thing to do is google reviews of 3600/3600X and see the benchmarks relevant to you

these two are good, navigate to the workload type benchmarks

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/First-Look-at-AMD-Ryzen-3rd-Gen-CPUs-for-Video-Editing-1522/

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3489-amd-ryzen-5-3600-cpu-review-benchmarks-vs-intel

 

sidenote:

If the 2700 is going to be left stock single threads boost fairly good, but when all core overclock you usually dont hit the speeds of the standard boosts.. unless expert overclocking/more heat

for example not overclocked, the all core may hit 3.3-3.4ghz??? but single thread will do 4.1ghz

if you force a overclock of say 3.8ghz you will loose that extra 4.1 boost. as boosting disables itself when forced overclocking

 

the 3600 out the box will run to it's near limits and not really need to fuss around with overclocking, if money permits and if only just a few extra dollars grab a 3600X as the stock clocks are higher

 

without knowing exactly which apps youll be using, its kind of hard to navigate

 

this site has gone way downhill but if you look deeply at 64c benchmark thats the full speed all cores

but this will show if typical computing the 3600 wins.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-2700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600/3957vs4040

 

I hope this helps, I hope to see a reply with what apps you intend to use... 

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, toxsickcity said:

Like I said, the single thread performance will matter, when all cores are not being used, most editing programs will infact sometimes need that extra performance for some tasks of the editing.

 

EG: Blender, if your setting up simulations and physics alot of the coding is not going to use all cores and the boost/ipc/ghz of the 3600 will help... alot!!!!!

 

Photoshop, is going to be better for faster GHZ so the 3600 will win

 

Video editing / conversions:

XVID4PSP converter( Handbrake type app), will often use 60-70% of a cpu depend of settings maybe go higher. 3600 would be close if not win, multiple instantces of XVID4PSP and render parallel workloads the 2700 will win, but not by alot!

Premiere is kind of funny with amd, the 2700 and 3600 will be very close.

 

I still stand by the idea of the faster IPC/ Faster boost of the 3600 is best

 

best thing to do is google reviews of 3600/3600X and see the benchmarks relevant to you

these two are good, navigate to the workload type benchmarks

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/First-Look-at-AMD-Ryzen-3rd-Gen-CPUs-for-Video-Editing-1522/

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3489-amd-ryzen-5-3600-cpu-review-benchmarks-vs-intel

 

sidenote:

If the 2700 is going to be left stock single threads boost fairly good, but when all core overclock you usually dont hit the speeds of the standard boosts.. unless expert overclocking/more heat

for example not overclocked, the all core may hit 3.3-3.4ghz??? but single thread will do 4.1ghz

if you force a overclock of say 3.8ghz you will loose that extra 4.1 boost. as boosting disables itself when forced overclocking

 

the 3600 out the box will run to it's near limits and not really need to fuss around with overclocking, if money permits and if only just a few extra dollars grab a 3600X as the stock clocks are higher

 

without knowing exactly which apps youll be using, its kind of hard to navigate

 

this site has gone way downhill but if you look deeply at 64c benchmark thats the full speed all cores

but this will show if typical computing the 3600 wins.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-2700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600/3957vs4040

 

I hope this helps, I hope to see a reply with what apps you intend to use... 

Really depends on the board, but mostly the 2700X will have a boxed all core boost of 3.9ghz respectively. 4.0-4.150 all core if temps are kept low enough. Mine passes Intel Burn Test at 4300mhz with static overclocking.

The 2700X stock single core XFR boost is 4350mhz. That's all stock, touch nothing and it's pretty fast.

The 3600X does have some IPC over the 2700X. Both will scale well with some memory overclocking. 

Maybe 10% difference per core epeen between Zen+ and Zen2 (give or take or course.)

 

I'd say the 3600X is going to be more power effiecient both on lack of cores and better voltage scaling (less v-core per clock) which makes it a good contender for choice. I think 9/10 people go for the 3600X over the 2700X. It's just that little bit better enough I think.

 

 

 

 

[Lam16]

On 6/15/2020 at 5:53 AM, toxsickcity said:

Like I said, the single thread performance will matter, when all cores are not being used, most editing programs will infact sometimes need that extra performance for some tasks of the editing.

 

EG: Blender, if your setting up simulations and physics alot of the coding is not going to use all cores and the boost/ipc/ghz of the 3600 will help... alot!!!!!

 

Photoshop, is going to be better for faster GHZ so the 3600 will win

 

Video editing / conversions:

XVID4PSP converter( Handbrake type app), will often use 60-70% of a cpu depend of settings maybe go higher. 3600 would be close if not win, multiple instantces of XVID4PSP and render parallel workloads the 2700 will win, but not by alot!

Premiere is kind of funny with amd, the 2700 and 3600 will be very close.

 

I still stand by the idea of the faster IPC/ Faster boost of the 3600 is best

 

best thing to do is google reviews of 3600/3600X and see the benchmarks relevant to you

these two are good, navigate to the workload type benchmarks

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/First-Look-at-AMD-Ryzen-3rd-Gen-CPUs-for-Video-Editing-1522/

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3489-amd-ryzen-5-3600-cpu-review-benchmarks-vs-intel

 

sidenote:

If the 2700 is going to be left stock single threads boost fairly good, but when all core overclock you usually dont hit the speeds of the standard boosts.. unless expert overclocking/more heat

for example not overclocked, the all core may hit 3.3-3.4ghz??? but single thread will do 4.1ghz

if you force a overclock of say 3.8ghz you will loose that extra 4.1 boost. as boosting disables itself when forced overclocking

 

the 3600 out the box will run to it's near limits and not really need to fuss around with overclocking, if money permits and if only just a few extra dollars grab a 3600X as the stock clocks are higher

 

without knowing exactly which apps youll be using, its kind of hard to navigate

 

this site has gone way downhill but if you look deeply at 64c benchmark thats the full speed all cores

but this will show if typical computing the 3600 wins.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-2700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600/3957vs4040

 

I hope this helps, I hope to see a reply with what apps you intend to use... 

Thank you. This has really helped me out. Finally i can start assembling my pc.