2070 Super Underperforming?

[DarkestDiamond]

Hey guys,

I just bought an ROG Strix 2070 Super off ebay as an upgrade from my 970 Strix. I was expecting it to destroy games that already ran fine on my 970, but I was kind of unimpressed. I got about 75fps average in the GTA V benchmark at 1440p, highest settings and 140fps average in the CSGO workshop benchmark map everyone uses (again, 1440p highest). I ran some more specific benchmarks to see if I could nail down exactly what was going on but I'm really at a loss. My furmark 1080 preset score was 10214, which is about in line with other 2070 supers, but my userbenchmark GPU score was only 91% where the average was 111%. Does it sound like it's underperforming? What else should I do to test it?

 

CPU: 5820k overclocked to 4.2 on all cores

 

Thanks!

[Mixyyy]

It is probably a bottleneck issue, if you can, you should upgrade to a new platform.

[Haro]

12 minutes ago, BBOOII said:

It is probably a bottleneck issue, if you can, you should upgrade to a new platform.

The 5820k can absolutely handle the 2070 super 

30 minutes ago, DarkestDiamond said:

Hey guys,

Have you tried ddu?

 checked  temps ?

[DarkestDiamond]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

Have you tried ddu?

 checked  temps

I don't know what DDU is

and the max GPU temp running a furmark bench was 68C. Max CPU temp (it's water cooled) is 35C ^{i should probably overclock it more tbh}

[Haro]

Just now, DarkestDiamond said:

I don't know what DDU is

Display driver uninstaller 

Check a video on how to use it

[3rrant]

35 minutes ago, DarkestDiamond said:

Hey guys,

I just bought an ROG Strix 2070 Super off ebay as an upgrade from my 970 Strix. I was expecting it to destroy games that already ran fine on my 970, but I was kind of unimpressed. I got about 75fps average in the GTA V benchmark at 1440p, highest settings and 140fps average in the CSGO workshop benchmark map everyone uses (again, 1440p highest). I ran some more specific benchmarks to see if I could nail down exactly what was going on but I'm really at a loss. My furmark 1080 preset score was 10214, which is about in line with other 2070 supers, but my userbenchmark GPU score was only 91% where the average was 111%. Does it sound like it's underperforming? What else should I do to test it?

 

CPU: 5820k overclocked to 4.2 on all cores

 

Thanks!

Don't trust userbenchmark scores. Plus, the average is 111% but there are outliers that go below 90 and over 120. That's because UB makes a pot of every type of 2070 Super. Overclocked, underclocked and whatsoever so you're never getting a good read of YOUR specific card.

 

If you want to know if it's underperforming heavily, you need to see result of your exact card first. If you can't find that, try some comparative benchmark against something like Gamer Nexus does (they do post all specific settings for each game and resolution so you can test it the same as them).

 

Try nuking your drivers with DDU and reinstall it before doing the tests. (https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html)

[zeusthemoose]

Like others have suggested, use ddu to remove old drivers.

this is the guide I used

 

[191x7]

Although the i7 5820K is a 6c/8t part, it's still Haswell which means it's able to push the 2070S but you won't have the averages a modern platform reaches with the card since your max framerate is lower and there are a lot more framedrops (and stutters).

 

How are your 3DMark results, are they comparable to other RTX 2070S results?

[DarkestDiamond]

41 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Display driver uninstaller 

Check a video on how to use it

Got it. Took me a bit but I uninstalled/reinstalled the driver and the userbenchmark score went from 5th to 70th percentile. Ridiculous

 

43 minutes ago, 3rrant said:

Don't trust userbenchmark scores. Plus, the average is 111% but there are outliers that go below 90 and over 120. That's because UB makes a pot of every type of 2070 Super. Overclocked, underclocked and whatsoever so you're never getting a good read of YOUR specific card.

 

I'd hoped that a ROG Strix would be one of the better ones from the factory, no? (Although with a 70th percentile userbenchmark score it looks like it is)

 

25 minutes ago, zeusthemoose said:

Like others have suggested, use ddu to remove old drivers.

this is the guide I used

Thanks!

 

19 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Although the i7 5820K is a 6c/8t part, it's still Haswell which means it's able to push the 2070S but you won't have the averages a modern platform reaches with the card since your max framerate is lower and there are a lot more framedrops (and stutters).

Ah yeah I was afraid of that. Time to upgrade CPU and MOBO too then?

 

19 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

How are your 3DMark results, are they comparable to other RTX 2070S results?

I swear I used 3DMark when I first got my 970 but steam isn't showing that I have it and now it costs $30? Either way I haven't tried it yet.

[Haro]

3 minutes ago, DarkestDiamond said:

Time to upgrade CPU and MOBO too then?

For now it's good 

[zeusthemoose]

8 minutes ago, DarkestDiamond said:

I swear I used 3DMark when I first got my 970 but steam isn't showing that I have it and now it costs $30? Either way I haven't tried it yet.

https://store.steampowered.com/widget/231350/
that’s the link to the free basic version on steam

[DarkestDiamond]

Alright, CS:GO bench avg. framerate was 211, and the GTA V bench cracked 100 for awhile where it hadn't before. Seems like it's more or less fixed. Thank you guys so much for the advice!