Posted June 7, 2020 I have wanted to get into photography for a while but the only camera i have is a finepix s2950 which is not the greatest. I would like to know what decent cameras for a low price you recommend, no requirements really just if it can do long exposure shots as that's something i want to try out, and ok low light performance. CPU: Amd Ryzen 3400g COOLER: Be Quite Dark Rock Pro 4 MOBO: Aorus x570 elite RAM: 2x8 Corsair Vengence 3200 MHz SSD: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500GB GPU: Powercolour Red Devil RX570 4GB PSU: Corsair RM750x 80+ Gold CASE: Coolermaster H500p Mesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2020 3 hours ago, RoryRB said: I have wanted to get into photography for a while but the only camera i have is a finepix s2950 which is not the greatest. I would like to know what decent cameras for a low price you recommend, no requirements really just if it can do long exposure shots as that's something i want to try out, and ok low light performance. What kind of budget do you have in mind? Intel i7 5820K (4.5 GHz) | MSI X99A MPower | 32 GB Kingston HyperX Fury 2666MHz | Asus RoG STRIX GTX 1080ti OC | Samsung 951 m.2 nVME 512GB | Crucial MX200 1000GB | Western Digital Caviar Black 2000GB | Noctua NH-D15 | Fractal Define R5 | Seasonic 860 Platinum | Logitech G910 | Sennheiser 599 | Blue Yeti | Logitech G502 Nikon D500 | Nikon 300mm f/4 PF | Nikon 200-500 f/5.6 | Nikon 50mm f/1.8 | Tamron 70-210 f/4 VCII | Sigma 10-20 f/3.5 | Nikon 17-55 f/2.8 | Tamron 90mm F2.8 SP Di VC USD Macro | Neewer 750II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 7, 2020 my instant thought is an old xxD so like a 60d or 70d Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500 gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow. GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450. Spirt (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped PSU Tier List Motherboard Tier List SSD Tier List How to get PC parts cheap HP probook 445R G6 review "Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid." Camera Gear: X-S10, 16-80 F4, 60D, 24-105 F4, 50mm F1.4, Helios44-m, 2 Cos-11D lavs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 8, 2020 Author 7 hours ago, Fetzie said: What kind of budget do you have in mind? I don’t have a specific budget in mind, maybe around the £350 mark but I’d be happier a bit lower as my plan is to buy a dirt bike and use it to travel to remote areas which might have never been photographed before CPU: Amd Ryzen 3400g COOLER: Be Quite Dark Rock Pro 4 MOBO: Aorus x570 elite RAM: 2x8 Corsair Vengence 3200 MHz SSD: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500GB GPU: Powercolour Red Devil RX570 4GB PSU: Corsair RM750x 80+ Gold CASE: Coolermaster H500p Mesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, RoryRB said: I don’t have a specific budget in mind, maybe around the £350 mark but I’d be happier a bit lower as my plan is to buy a dirt bike and use it to travel to remote areas which might have never been photographed before okay so then that means your going to want something on the stronger built side. 60D or 70D are still my picks. Get something like a 35MM prime for about 100$ Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500 gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow. GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450. Spirt (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped PSU Tier List Motherboard Tier List SSD Tier List How to get PC parts cheap HP probook 445R G6 review "Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid." Camera Gear: X-S10, 16-80 F4, 60D, 24-105 F4, 50mm F1.4, Helios44-m, 2 Cos-11D lavs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 8, 2020 Author 10 hours ago, GDRRiley said: okay so then that means your going to want something on the stronger built side. 60D or 70D are still my picks. Get something like a 35MM prime for about 100$ Ok i will look around for a reasonably priced one. CPU: Amd Ryzen 3400g COOLER: Be Quite Dark Rock Pro 4 MOBO: Aorus x570 elite RAM: 2x8 Corsair Vengence 3200 MHz SSD: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500GB GPU: Powercolour Red Devil RX570 4GB PSU: Corsair RM750x 80+ Gold CASE: Coolermaster H500p Mesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 8, 2020 5 hours ago, RoryRB said: Ok i will look around for a reasonably priced one. sorry I don't know where to direct you for the UK Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500 gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow. GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450. Spirt (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped PSU Tier List Motherboard Tier List SSD Tier List How to get PC parts cheap HP probook 445R G6 review "Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid." Camera Gear: X-S10, 16-80 F4, 60D, 24-105 F4, 50mm F1.4, Helios44-m, 2 Cos-11D lavs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 8, 2020 2 hours ago, GDRRiley said: sorry I don't know where to direct you for the UK Currys, Argos, Amazon, Jessops, eBay, the manufactures own website and places like large supermarkets will probably have a few in. Dirty Windows Peasants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Lord Vile said: Currys, Argos, Amazon, Jessops, eBay, the manufactures own website and places like large supermarkets will probably have a few in. yeah but used not new Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500 gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow. GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450. Spirt (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped PSU Tier List Motherboard Tier List SSD Tier List How to get PC parts cheap HP probook 445R G6 review "Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid." Camera Gear: X-S10, 16-80 F4, 60D, 24-105 F4, 50mm F1.4, Helios44-m, 2 Cos-11D lavs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 8, 2020 1 minute ago, GDRRiley said: yeah but used not new Used you could look at CeX and eBay. Amazon do used and Argos do refurbished on their eBay page. Dirty Windows Peasants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lord Vile said: Used you could look at CeX and eBay. Amazon do used and Argos do refurbished on their eBay page. CVP is the only one for UK I know Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500 gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow. GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450. Spirt (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped PSU Tier List Motherboard Tier List SSD Tier List How to get PC parts cheap HP probook 445R G6 review "Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid." Camera Gear: X-S10, 16-80 F4, 60D, 24-105 F4, 50mm F1.4, Helios44-m, 2 Cos-11D lavs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 9, 2020 20 hours ago, GDRRiley said: CVP is the only one for UK I know I think mpb.com are active in the UK market. I've heard good stuff about them from German friends. Intel i7 5820K (4.5 GHz) | MSI X99A MPower | 32 GB Kingston HyperX Fury 2666MHz | Asus RoG STRIX GTX 1080ti OC | Samsung 951 m.2 nVME 512GB | Crucial MX200 1000GB | Western Digital Caviar Black 2000GB | Noctua NH-D15 | Fractal Define R5 | Seasonic 860 Platinum | Logitech G910 | Sennheiser 599 | Blue Yeti | Logitech G502 Nikon D500 | Nikon 300mm f/4 PF | Nikon 200-500 f/5.6 | Nikon 50mm f/1.8 | Tamron 70-210 f/4 VCII | Sigma 10-20 f/3.5 | Nikon 17-55 f/2.8 | Tamron 90mm F2.8 SP Di VC USD Macro | Neewer 750II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 12, 2020 Author @GDRRiley Do you think £250 is a decent deal on a 60D, it comes with a EFS 18-55mm Lens. CPU: Amd Ryzen 3400g COOLER: Be Quite Dark Rock Pro 4 MOBO: Aorus x570 elite RAM: 2x8 Corsair Vengence 3200 MHz SSD: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500GB GPU: Powercolour Red Devil RX570 4GB PSU: Corsair RM750x 80+ Gold CASE: Coolermaster H500p Mesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 14, 2020 On 6/12/2020 at 8:19 AM, RoryRB said: @GDRRiley Do you think £250 is a decent deal on a 60D, it comes with a EFS 18-55mm Lens. not a bad deal but maybe push for 200 Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500 gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow. GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450. Spirt (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped PSU Tier List Motherboard Tier List SSD Tier List How to get PC parts cheap HP probook 445R G6 review "Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid." Camera Gear: X-S10, 16-80 F4, 60D, 24-105 F4, 50mm F1.4, Helios44-m, 2 Cos-11D lavs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 17, 2020 On 6/7/2020 at 4:23 PM, GDRRiley said: my instant thought is an old xxD so like a 60d or 70d my sister still uses a 60d as a main camera they are pretty good I mean look at brandon ( LTT camera man) he started with a 60d Everyone, Creator - 初音ミク Hatsune Miku Google commercial. Cameras: Main: Canon 70D - Secondary: Panasonic GX85 - Spare: Samsung ST68. - Action cams: GoPro Hero+, Akaso EK7000pro Dead cameras: Nikion s4000, Canon XTi Pc's Spoiler Dell optiplex 5050 (main) - i5-6500- 20GB ram -500gb samsung 970 evo 500gb WD blue HDD - dvd r/w HP compaq 8300 prebuilt - Intel i5-3470 - 8GB ram - 500GB HDD - bluray drive old windows 7 gaming desktop - Intel i5 2400 - lenovo CIH61M V:1.0 - 4GB ram - 1TB HDD - dual DVD r/w main laptop acer e5 15 - Intel i3 7th gen - 16GB ram - 1TB HDD - dvd drive school laptop lenovo 300e chromebook 2nd gen - Intel celeron - 4GB ram - 32GB SSD audio mac- 2017 apple macbook air A1466 EMC 3178 Any questions? pm me. #Muricaparrotgang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, sub68 said: my sister still uses a 60d as a main camera they are pretty good I mean look at brandon ( LTT camera man) he started with a 60d my GF main is a 60D. 60D came out at the right time to be a lot of videographers/cinematographers first camera. Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500 gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow. GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450. Spirt (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped PSU Tier List Motherboard Tier List SSD Tier List How to get PC parts cheap HP probook 445R G6 review "Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid." Camera Gear: X-S10, 16-80 F4, 60D, 24-105 F4, 50mm F1.4, Helios44-m, 2 Cos-11D lavs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 17, 2020 Just now, GDRRiley said: my GF main is a 60D. 60D came out at the right time to be a lot of videographers/cinematographers first camera. my sister uses hers for photos only but if she upgrades it might become mine hehe but its a great video learning dslr Everyone, Creator - 初音ミク Hatsune Miku Google commercial. Cameras: Main: Canon 70D - Secondary: Panasonic GX85 - Spare: Samsung ST68. - Action cams: GoPro Hero+, Akaso EK7000pro Dead cameras: Nikion s4000, Canon XTi Pc's Spoiler Dell optiplex 5050 (main) - i5-6500- 20GB ram -500gb samsung 970 evo 500gb WD blue HDD - dvd r/w HP compaq 8300 prebuilt - Intel i5-3470 - 8GB ram - 500GB HDD - bluray drive old windows 7 gaming desktop - Intel i5 2400 - lenovo CIH61M V:1.0 - 4GB ram - 1TB HDD - dual DVD r/w main laptop acer e5 15 - Intel i3 7th gen - 16GB ram - 1TB HDD - dvd drive school laptop lenovo 300e chromebook 2nd gen - Intel celeron - 4GB ram - 32GB SSD audio mac- 2017 apple macbook air A1466 EMC 3178 Any questions? pm me. #Muricaparrotgang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 17, 2020 I have a Rebel T2i, IDK how it compares to the 60D, but they're usually cheap and quite nice to work with. That's about the best I've done so far with mine: I just have a basic 50mm lens and then do some exposure adjusting and stuff in Lightroom since I tend to shoot a bit dark. Also good lord compression murdered the flower pic, you'll want to click on it to view at full res. Intel HEDT and Server platform enthusiasts: Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Megathread Main PC CPU: i9 7980XE @4.5GHz/1.22v/-2 AVX offset Cooler: EKWB Supremacy Block - custom loop w/360mm +280mm rads Motherboard: EVGA X299 Dark RAM:4x8GB HyperX Predator DDR4 @3200Mhz CL16 GPU: Nvidia FE 2060 Super/Corsair HydroX 2070 FE block Storage: 1TB MP34 + 1TB 970 Evo + 500GB Atom30 + 250GB 960 Evo Optical Drives: LG WH14NS40 PSU: EVGA 1600W T2 Case & Fans: Corsair 750D Airflow - 3x Noctua iPPC NF-F12 + 4x Noctua iPPC NF-A14 PWM OS: Windows 11 Display: LG 27UK650-W (4K 60Hz IPS panel) Mouse: EVGA X17 Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB Mobile/Work Devices: 2020 M1 MacBook Air (work computer) - iPhone 13 Pro Max - Apple Watch S3 Other Misc Devices: iPod Video (Gen 5.5E, 128GB SD card swap, running Rockbox), Nintendo Switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, Zando Bob said: I have a Rebel T2i, IDK how it compares to the 60D, but they're usually cheap and quite nice to work with. That's about the best I've done so far with mine: I just have a basic 50mm lens and then do some exposure adjusting and stuff in Lightroom since I tend to shoot a bit dark. yes I forgot about this camera its still pretty good man I wish my xti had live view for astro Everyone, Creator - 初音ミク Hatsune Miku Google commercial. Cameras: Main: Canon 70D - Secondary: Panasonic GX85 - Spare: Samsung ST68. - Action cams: GoPro Hero+, Akaso EK7000pro Dead cameras: Nikion s4000, Canon XTi Pc's Spoiler Dell optiplex 5050 (main) - i5-6500- 20GB ram -500gb samsung 970 evo 500gb WD blue HDD - dvd r/w HP compaq 8300 prebuilt - Intel i5-3470 - 8GB ram - 500GB HDD - bluray drive old windows 7 gaming desktop - Intel i5 2400 - lenovo CIH61M V:1.0 - 4GB ram - 1TB HDD - dual DVD r/w main laptop acer e5 15 - Intel i3 7th gen - 16GB ram - 1TB HDD - dvd drive school laptop lenovo 300e chromebook 2nd gen - Intel celeron - 4GB ram - 32GB SSD audio mac- 2017 apple macbook air A1466 EMC 3178 Any questions? pm me. #Muricaparrotgang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Zando Bob said: I have a Rebel T2i, IDK how it compares to the 60D, but they're usually cheap and quite nice to work with. That's about the best I've done so far with mine: I just have a basic 50mm lens and then do some exposure adjusting and stuff in Lightroom since I tend to shoot a bit dark. Also good lord compression murdered the flower pic, you'll want to click on it to view at full res. the t2i-t5i and t3-t5 are almost identical to the 60D primes make most cameras a lot better. I don't pay for any software I got canons editing software yeah forum doesn't do great with that I always open pics for full res Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500 gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow. GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450. Spirt (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped PSU Tier List Motherboard Tier List SSD Tier List How to get PC parts cheap HP probook 445R G6 review "Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid." Camera Gear: X-S10, 16-80 F4, 60D, 24-105 F4, 50mm F1.4, Helios44-m, 2 Cos-11D lavs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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