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GPU usage drops while gaming and cpu usage rises

Hello there.This is my first post on this website and the formating will be pretty bad.

 

Im here becaouse i have a big problem.I built my PC a few years ago and since the first day there was a big problem.While i was gaming i got pretty bad fps drops and i found out thet my graphics card was running at only 20% while these drops were happening.After about 10 seconds these drops are over and i can play normal for 3 minutes till it happens again.I already tried many thing to try preventing it from happening but nothing worked.Because of that im here and i hope that someone can help me.:)

 

CPU: AMD Fx 8350 

GPU: Msi GTX 1050ti

Ram:16gb ddr3

Motherboard:Asus M5a78L usb3

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Try using DDU

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Laptop - ASUS ZenBook 14 with ScreenPad, i7-1165G7, Xe iGPU 96EU, 16GB Octa-Channel 4200MHz, MX450 2GB, 512GB SSD with 32GB Optane

 

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What games are you playing? What software do you have running in the background?

 

FX 8350 has very poor single thread performance, and only 4 real cores. Could be part of the issue.

BabyBlu (Primary Rig): 

  • CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ up to 5.3Ghz, 5.0Ghz all-core
  • Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 @ 4000Mhz 16-18-18-34
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070Mhz core, 8000Mhz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB NVME, 3x ADATA Ultimate SU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 200Hz(OC) Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ Per Core 5.0Ghz - 5.0Ghz - 4.9Ghz - 4.8Ghz, Cache @ 4.6Ghz, relidded with LM TIM
  • Motherboard: Asus Z97A
  • RAM: G.Skill Sniper 4x8GB DDR3-2400 @ 10-12-12-24
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with LM TIM
  • Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, With Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 1TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair AX760
  • Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync
  • Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB
  • Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

BlackBox (HTPC):

  • CPU: Intel Pentium G4600 (Kaby Lake)
  • Motherboard: Asus H110T/CSM Thin Mini-ITX
  • RAM: G.Skill 1x8GB DDR4-2400 SO-DIMM CL16
  • GPU: HD 630
  • Case: Akasa Euler Fanless Solid Aluminum THIN Mini ITX Case (passively cooled)
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
  • PSU: External 120W Power Adaptor
  • Display: 4K TV
  • Cooling: Passively cooled by the Akasa case. No moving parts!
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Handheld QWERTY keyboard and trackpad.
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro, Kodi autostarts on boot

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This happens with bad overclocks.  GPUs since the 900 series have been pretty good about "recovering" from bad overclocks without crashing....but they drop frames hard.  If you run a benchmark like Heaven and see GPU load bouncing around it's because of a overclock that's too high.

 

If you're not overclocked....ehhh could be CPU bottleneck .  That CPU is pretty weak by modern standards.

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7 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

can you monitor cpu and gpu temperatures while gaming? sounds like temperature throttling to me.

I am constantly doing that and my GPU never goes above 45 degrees.My CPU is 69 degree on average and maximum about 80Unbenhhhhannt.thumb.png.1030dae6ea5cb96e2f719e36b5eccace.png

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Just now, Matze2570 said:

I am constantly doing that and my GPU never goes above 45 degrees.My CPU is 69 degree on average and maximum about 80Unbenhhhhannt.thumb.png.1030dae6ea5cb96e2f719e36b5eccace.png

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also what i forgot to mention sometimes my GPU doesnt even go above 20% even if it needs to.In the second picture you can see that i only have about 90 framees and my gpu wont go above 20%(also sorry for my english i am not a native speaker)

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43 minutes ago, bengeoghegan11 said:

Try using DDU

I already did it once and nothing changed

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28 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

This happens with bad overclocks.  GPUs since the 900 series have been pretty good about "recovering" from bad overclocks without crashing....but they drop frames hard.  If you run a benchmark like Heaven and see GPU load bouncing around it's because of a overclock that's too high.

 

If you're not overclocked....ehhh could be CPU bottleneck .  That CPU is pretty weak by modern standards.

I am not overclocking the cpu and I also never wanted to.The load is usually normal but then it sudennly goes up and my GPU load load decreases

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Just now, boggy77 said:

CS is a single core game. you cans ee it loading up just one of your cores. your cpu is not strong enough to push more than 90 frames to the gpu, and the gpu finds it easy to process those 90 frames, that's why it's under utilised.

It is not only like that in CSGO.In every single game i play like GTA V,Rainbow 6 ,Overwatch ,Battlefield 1 ,and many more the same thing happens.But for some reason it doesn´t happen when i play Rocket League 

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36 minutes ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

What games are you playing? What software do you have running in the background?

 

FX 8350 has very poor single thread performance, and only 4 real cores. Could be part of the issue.

I play Games like CSGO Overwatch GTA 5 ,Rainbow 6 Battlefield and Rocket League.I only have Discord open in the backround and a cpu parking tool which does not help

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Yeah, it seems like a CPU bottleneck to me. Your low frame rates in general are due to a weak CPU, and your frame rate drops could be due to game assets loading in, which the CPU needs to decompress. Or from background programs like anti-virus, or even hwmonitor stealing precious CPU cycles.

BabyBlu (Primary Rig): 

  • CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ up to 5.3Ghz, 5.0Ghz all-core
  • Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 @ 4000Mhz 16-18-18-34
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070Mhz core, 8000Mhz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB NVME, 3x ADATA Ultimate SU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 200Hz(OC) Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ Per Core 5.0Ghz - 5.0Ghz - 4.9Ghz - 4.8Ghz, Cache @ 4.6Ghz, relidded with LM TIM
  • Motherboard: Asus Z97A
  • RAM: G.Skill Sniper 4x8GB DDR3-2400 @ 10-12-12-24
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with LM TIM
  • Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, With Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 1TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair AX760
  • Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync
  • Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB
  • Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

BlackBox (HTPC):

  • CPU: Intel Pentium G4600 (Kaby Lake)
  • Motherboard: Asus H110T/CSM Thin Mini-ITX
  • RAM: G.Skill 1x8GB DDR4-2400 SO-DIMM CL16
  • GPU: HD 630
  • Case: Akasa Euler Fanless Solid Aluminum THIN Mini ITX Case (passively cooled)
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
  • PSU: External 120W Power Adaptor
  • Display: 4K TV
  • Cooling: Passively cooled by the Akasa case. No moving parts!
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Handheld QWERTY keyboard and trackpad.
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro, Kodi autostarts on boot

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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From what I hear from my friends who play it, Rocket League is a VERY well optimized game, and could run on an overclocked potato.

BabyBlu (Primary Rig): 

  • CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ up to 5.3Ghz, 5.0Ghz all-core
  • Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 @ 4000Mhz 16-18-18-34
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070Mhz core, 8000Mhz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB NVME, 3x ADATA Ultimate SU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 200Hz(OC) Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ Per Core 5.0Ghz - 5.0Ghz - 4.9Ghz - 4.8Ghz, Cache @ 4.6Ghz, relidded with LM TIM
  • Motherboard: Asus Z97A
  • RAM: G.Skill Sniper 4x8GB DDR3-2400 @ 10-12-12-24
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with LM TIM
  • Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, With Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 1TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair AX760
  • Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync
  • Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB
  • Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

BlackBox (HTPC):

  • CPU: Intel Pentium G4600 (Kaby Lake)
  • Motherboard: Asus H110T/CSM Thin Mini-ITX
  • RAM: G.Skill 1x8GB DDR4-2400 SO-DIMM CL16
  • GPU: HD 630
  • Case: Akasa Euler Fanless Solid Aluminum THIN Mini ITX Case (passively cooled)
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
  • PSU: External 120W Power Adaptor
  • Display: 4K TV
  • Cooling: Passively cooled by the Akasa case. No moving parts!
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Handheld QWERTY keyboard and trackpad.
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro, Kodi autostarts on boot

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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3 minutes ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

From what I hear from my friends who play it, Rocket League is a VERY well optimized game, and could run on an overclocked potato.

yeah that is true

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5 minutes ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

Yeah, it seems like a CPU bottleneck to me. Your low frame rates in general are due to a weak CPU, and your frame rate drops could be due to game assets loading in, which the CPU needs to decompress. Or from background programs like anti-virus, or even hwmonitor stealing precious CPU cycles.

so my only chance is to get a new cpu?

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On 6/4/2020 at 8:53 AM, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

Yeah, it seems like a CPU bottleneck to me. Your low frame rates in general are due to a weak CPU, and your frame rate drops could be due to game assets loading in, which the CPU needs to decompress. Or from background programs like anti-virus, or even hwmonitor stealing precious CPU cycles.

um thats a 1050ti and I am pretty sure a fx 8350 can handle 580s and 1060s. Also did you say that cpu goes up to 80 degrees then that would mean your cpu is throttling. What cooler do you have.

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Seems to be a motherboard problem actually. Your motherboards VRM can't supply the FX 8350 with enough power. See here:

 

BabyBlu (Primary Rig): 

  • CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ up to 5.3Ghz, 5.0Ghz all-core
  • Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero
  • RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 @ 4000Mhz 16-18-18-34
  • GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070Mhz core, 8000Mhz mem
  • Case: Phanteks Evolv X
  • Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB NVME, 3x ADATA Ultimate SU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair HX1000i
  • Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 200Hz(OC) Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync
  • Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front)
  • Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown)
  • Mouse: MasterMouse MM710
  • Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

Roxanne (Wife Build):

  • CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ Per Core 5.0Ghz - 5.0Ghz - 4.9Ghz - 4.8Ghz, Cache @ 4.6Ghz, relidded with LM TIM
  • Motherboard: Asus Z97A
  • RAM: G.Skill Sniper 4x8GB DDR3-2400 @ 10-12-12-24
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 with LM TIM
  • Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, With Custom Side-Panel Window
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 1TB NVME
  • PSU: Corsair AX760
  • Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync
  • Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB
  • Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White)
  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro

BlackBox (HTPC):

  • CPU: Intel Pentium G4600 (Kaby Lake)
  • Motherboard: Asus H110T/CSM Thin Mini-ITX
  • RAM: G.Skill 1x8GB DDR4-2400 SO-DIMM CL16
  • GPU: HD 630
  • Case: Akasa Euler Fanless Solid Aluminum THIN Mini ITX Case (passively cooled)
  • Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB
  • PSU: External 120W Power Adaptor
  • Display: 4K TV
  • Cooling: Passively cooled by the Akasa case. No moving parts!
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Handheld QWERTY keyboard and trackpad.
  • OS: Windows 10 Pro, Kodi autostarts on boot

NAS:

  • Synology DS216J
  • 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space
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2 hours ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

Seems to be a motherboard problem actually. Your motherboards VRM can't supply the FX 8350 with enough power. See here:

 

Yeah ur right that board is pretty crap and it's probably causing the cpu to throttle the funny part is that people who have this issue usually have a fx 8000 series cpu paired with that board.

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