Planning: Single-Machine (VR) Gaming + Streaming

Yaerox · May 22, 2020

Budget (including currency): preferred 1500 EUR, max 1800 EUR

Country: Germany

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: iRacing in VR, Assetto Corsa in VR, Assetto Corsa Competizione in VR, Battlefield, CoD, CS:GO, Apex, World of Warcraft, Video-Editing, Photo-Editing, Streaming

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Playing in VR (Oculus Rift S) or on Desktop 1080p 144Hz, Streaming preffered in 1080p 60 FPS.

My main goal: I want to stream iRacing/Assetto Corsa/Assetto Corsa Competizione in VR

I'm usually watching the market before going for stuff. I'm doing this for a couple months now but I'm Intel-User and I didn't got into the Ryzen thing yet. My old lady is running a i7-4790k + GTX 1060 6GB (I silently swapped my GTX 970 with my wife's GTX 1060) and is almost 5 Years old. I'll upgrade at the end of the year probably when Intel 10th Gen/Ryzen 4th Gen (?) and RTX 3000 Series are out.

If I had to upgrade NOW I'd probably go:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Yaerox/saved/YPTfP6 (eventho it shows $ the prices are meant to be EUR)

Some of my Thoughts:

- i7 because I don't see the money worth of going i9. At that time i9-9900K was around +100 EUR.

- Why Gigabyte Mainboard? I got an ASUS Z-97 PRO GAMER now and I never had any similar bad experience with quality. When I first installed all components and noticed I have to unplug cables for cable management again some sockets got pulled out of the board, especially the Front-Case USB 3.0 Socket got ripped.

- Why Zotac GPU? I've never bought any other GTX Brand so far. No issues at all and as far as I can see Zotac is always on the TOP competing.

- Prices are all set manually due to my latest watch on the market a couple months ago. Few parts like Case+SSDs are already present.

- Some thoughts are going full RBG but that's not part of this discussion.

- Air Cooled? Have you ever seen a PC catching real fire? I did, at a friends house. Simply I don't see a real need since I never overlocked anything and those Noctua Coolers are amazing.

My first ever owned PC was AMD ( around 13 years ago I think)? I got it as a gift and it was already 1,5-2 years old I think. So I'd love to get some help in how to build AMD PCs/compare AMD PCs in a proper way other then just calling out marketing stuff companies say. What would you say is a similar price/class based AMD PC? I thought about Ryzen 9 3900X or Ryzen 7 3800X. Mainboards ... I have no clue. I want to be honest. I'm not fanboy of some brands. I buy what's best for my financial situation. My experience so far is that I never had an AMD PC which lasted longer then 1,5-2 years. Friends which went for AMD also upgraded always after 2 years. Before this i7 I had a Core2Duo E8400 which got upgraded to Core2Quad (just because a friend sold it for some beers). Both lasted like around 3-4 years. I'm not the typical "I buy new gear every 2 years guy".

I appreciate any kind of discussion.

#Updates: I added some other details, one more thought on Air Coolind and a Screenshot of the PCPARTPICKER.

Edited May 22, 2020 by Yaerox

boggy77 · May 22, 2020

this is what i'd do at the moment with your budget. but if you can wait, waiting for nvidia 3000 series is a good idea.

the 3700x is slightly slower in games than the 9700, but it has hyperthreading so in professsional applications is almost twice as fast. the x570 board can also take the future 4000 series cpus if you want to upgrade in 2 years or so, so you won't need to change everything, unlike with intel where you have to change motherboard with every cpu.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	€297.89 @ Mindfactory
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	€73.89 @ Aquatuning
Motherboard	ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	€162.90 @ ARLT
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	€168.08 @ Mindfactory
Storage	Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	€139.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card	Zotac GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB GAMING Video Card	€742.45 @ Mindfactory
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case	€54.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply	Enermax Revolution D.F. 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€99.89 @ Alternate
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€1739.99
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-22 14:24 CEST+0200

Yaerox · May 22, 2020

Is there a reason you would take Ryzen 7 3700X over Ryzen 7 3800X?

I'll wait for RTX 3000 Series for sure, like I said I just want to get into the AMD thinking. So I'll definitely wait for Ryzen 4th Gen aswell. On Intel it's easier for me to decide what is a good pick or what not. I struggle with AMD comparisons.

Since I got Case+Storage I could save almost 200 which would be great. Never thought about RTX 2080 in the current situation. Thought price is well to much compared to performance. Maybe I should take a second look on RTX 2070 vs 2080.