Would This build Be bottlenecking?

[PCGamerNewb]

I am working on my second gaming build and my first one i learned what bottlenecking was the hard way by using an intel core i7-4770k 16gb of ram and 2gb on my graphics card (amd radeon HD6570) it can't run anything on high setting only low. Now my parents were recently divorced so i need a build for my mom's house and it has to be a budget build. I want to go with an AMD Athlon X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor, Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory, Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X 4GB Video Card, MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard, Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive, Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply, Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case, and a Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply. i have time to change things around but i want a graphics card that can handle any game max settings like battlefield on ultra and cod on high stuff like that reply A.S.A.P just so i can tell my mom a final price. Thank you.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                PC Build if the link works: http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/

[PCGamerNewb]

i have an operating system so don't worry about that

[PCGamerNewb]

and network card 

[ZetZet]

It will be fine and if mantle hits it will be great.

also get 760k, it's worth it.

[kuzimins]

It will be fine.

[ciprian97pop]

I am working on my second gaming build and my first one i learned what bottlenecking was the hard way by using an intel core i7-4770k 16gb of ram and 2gb on my graphics card (amd radeon HD6570) it can't run anything on high setting only low. Now my parents were recently divorced so i need a build for my mom's house and it has to be a budget build. I want to go with an AMD Athlon X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor, Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory, Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X 4GB Video Card, MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard, Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive, Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply, Thermaltake Commander MS/I Snow Edition (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case, and a Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply. i have time to change things around but i want a graphics card that can handle any game max settings like battlefield on ultra and cod on high stuff like that reply A.S.A.P just so i can tell my mom a final price. Thank you.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                PC Build if the link works: http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/

somewhere in the top  part of your screen you'll see something like this

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Edited February 23, 2014 by ciprian97pop

[ZetZet]

How is the 760K > 750K? Seems like higher clock speed to me. 

750K is trinity, 760k is richland.

[Guest]

I've read review that that case has really thin metal. If you need a budget case, try the Core 1000 by Fractal Design

[ZetZet]

I've read review that that case has really thin metal. If you need a budget case, try the Core 1000 by Fractal Design

N200 by Cooler Master more space.  :lol:

[PCGamerNewb]

thanks for the quick replies guys but keep in mind it's a budget build i cant exceed 700$ my mom doesnt make much

[PCGamerNewb]

whoops discard that i can use a 760k i didn't check prices ty

[PCGamerNewb]

ok i could use a good budget case for cable mangement if thats possible any suggestions also it has to be water coolable because i might get some water cooling for my self. Again if possible fast responses thank you

[PCGamerNewb]

sorry for posting alot on my own post but anyone know why i cant run ultra settings on the i7 build at my dad's? i was told 2gb of ram is more than enough on a graphics card

[dusty594]

Your first build is really imbalanced. Simple as that. The build is really solid, but the processor and ram are overkill for a gaming PC and the GPU is quite underpowered. Vram and ram don't have very large effects on framerate. Unless you're running a monitor with a resolution of higher than 1080p or running multiple displays, 2GB of Vram is usually enough. As for ram, 8GB is plenty (at least for a little while) with regards to gaming PCs. The i7 sounds great and all, but won't show much improvement over an i5 in the majority of gaming applications.

 

The HD 6570 is just a low end card with poor performance, and isn't suitable for modern gaming. Your new build looks better balanced and you should see much better gaming performance out of it than the old build. good luck! 

[PCGamerNewb]

Dusty i thank you for your reply but i know its overkill what gpu should i use to balance it

[dusty594]

Dusty i thank you for your reply but i know its overkill what gpu should i use to balance it

 

Depends entirely on the performance you're after. Arguably one of the best GPUs available at the moment is the 780ti. The 780ti however, is fairly damn expensive. The first thing you have to decide is a budget. It's fairly easy after that... pick the best performing card in your budget from a manufacturer of your choosing. If looks matter, factor that in. If you have a preference of AMD or Nvidia, factor that in as well. If you figure out everything I've mentioned then you should have it narrowed down at least to just a handful of cards, if not a single card. The best way to determine the performance of a GPU without actually having one is to look through benchmarks online. Try to find results from real world applications rather than synthetic benchmarks, and pay attention to the different titles, settings, resolutions, overclocks, etc. used in the benchmark runs. 

 

In summary, determine:

 

1. Budget

2. Desired performance

3. Preference of looks, manufacturer, etc.

 

and you should be able to pick a card. Good luck! 

[Faceman]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2YXH8

 

Hopefully you live next to a Microcenter, or know someone who does, because they have tremendous savings.

 

i5-4670k - $180

ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard - $120

Patriot Viper Xtreme 8GB(2x4) 1600Mhz - $55 <-- absolutely get this.  It isnt the best memory brand, but it is about half as much as Corsair, and Corsair can't be more than 20% better and I doubt even that much better, and it doesn't justify spending twice as much if your performance gains aren't twice as much.  Another thing to consider when building based on budget:  Is the performance gains i.e. 20% worth a 50% increase in price?  I always ask myself this question, and if you do too, you will be pleased with the outcome.

MSI GTX 760 Twin Frozr - $250

Corsair CX 600M - $55  You might consider 600W overkill for what this build will be, but think for the future.  If you do decide to watercool, overclock or SLI, spend an extra $10-$20 for the option to make additions in the future, and the modular is always nice plus its from a very very respected brand.

Western Digital 1TB 7200rpm - $50

 

The very next thing you buy should be an SSD, because you are on a budget, hold off on it.  Buying an SSD, you will see the absolute most performance gains for your dollar in terms of boot up time, and on most video games.  Buy at least a 120GB SSD, don't pay more than $70 for 120GB.  That 120GB will be gone FAST though.  Wait for a really amazing deal, or save up money to purchase 240GB+  Only store your operating system and frequently played games on your SSD.

 

As far as case goes, this is another area where you might be able to finagle a few extra bucks.  Your case can be reused for all of your future builds, meaning its only something you have to buy once, and you can reuse it for the foreseeable future.  If this is going to be a one-time case purchase, don't spend more than $40.  Otherwise, buy a nice, big case.  

 

Good luck on your build, you will have plenty of success for the next 3+ years with what I listed.  Even longer if you don't mind running games on medium settings after 3 years.

[LogicalDrm]

So you have 4770K system already? Why not just upgarde GPU? Otherwise seems waste of big bucks.

[PCGamerNewb]

Logic i know that and i stated it before i wanted to know what gpu to use and thanks dusty i really appreciate your responses

[PCGamerNewb]

Depends entirely on the performance you're after. Arguably one of the best GPUs available at the moment is the 780ti. The 780ti however, is fairly damn expensive. The first thing you have to decide is a budget. It's fairly easy after that... pick the best performing card in your budget from a manufacturer of your choosing. If looks matter, factor that in. If you have a preference of AMD or Nvidia, factor that in as well. If you figure out everything I've mentioned then you should have it narrowed down at least to just a handful of cards, if not a single card. The best way to determine the performance of a GPU without actually having one is to look through benchmarks online. Try to find results from real world applications rather than synthetic benchmarks, and pay attention to the different titles, settings, resolutions, overclocks, etc. used in the benchmark runs.

In summary, determine:

1. Budget

2. Desired performance

3. Preference of looks, manufacturer, etc.

and you should be able to pick a card. Good luck!

[PCGamerNewb]

Depends entirely on the performance you're after. Arguably one of the best GPUs available at the moment is the 780ti. The 780ti however, is fairly damn expensive. The first thing you have to decide is a budget. It's fairly easy after that... pick the best performing card in your budget from a manufacturer of your choosing. If looks matter, factor that in. If you have a preference of AMD or Nvidia, factor that in as well. If you figure out everything I've mentioned then you should have it narrowed down at least to just a handful of cards, if not a single card. The best way to determine the performance of a GPU without actually having one is to look through benchmarks online. Try to find results from real world applications rather than synthetic benchmarks, and pay attention to the different titles, settings, resolutions, overclocks, etc. used in the benchmark runs.

In summary, determine:

1. Budget

2. Desired performance

3. Preference of looks, manufacturer, etc.

and you should be able to pick a card. Good luck!

[PCGamerNewb]

Would the r9 270x 4gb that im using in the budget build work here? So i could ask my dad to get it this christmas

[Faceman]

Would the r9 270x 4gb that im using in the budget build work here? So i could ask my dad to get it this christmas

    The best thing to do would be to upgrade the GPU on your current computer.  That is the only thing holding that computer back from being formidable.  Much less expensive to purchase just 1 part, the graphics card, rather than build a whole new computer.  Unless if you have to build a brand new computer, then go ahead with a new build, and revisit your old computer and upgrade the GPU when you deem necessary.  You have a very nice computer, its just the graphics card that is holding you back.

  The R9 270x is a fine card right now, but in 10 months, it wont look as nice as it does right now.  GPU is one area where you might want to splurge a little more, as it will give you the most performance to dollar.  Try and get something as new and powerful as your budget allows, this will allow you to run current and yet to be released games in a respectable way.  You don't want to go too thrifty and have a card that wont let you run games past 2 years.  It is worth an additional $50-$100 to give the life of your card another 1-2 years.

  I recently built a brand new, bottom up computer and I was so budget conscious, I wanted to get it done at $800, and I could have if I went with a less expensive GPU.  I decided to splurge, spend an extra $100 and as a result, my graphics card will give me Ultra settings today, and medium to high for the foreseeable future, I'm guessing 4 years, 5 tops.  Rather than spend $250 and get a 2-3 year window, I would rather have a 4-5 year window.  Most people will argue with me on lifetime of my card, but in 3+ years I know I will still have a very serviceable card. 

 

In case you are wondering what I bought here is the run down:

i5-4670k -- $180

Asus z87- A -- $100

Ultra Defender II Case -- $45 (I really wish I bought a nicer case)

Kingston V300 120GB SSD -- $65

Corsair CX600M -- $55

Patriot Viper 8GB(2x4) 1600MHz - $55

= $500 (This and all prices are after rebates)

Now, I have all of the components of a very nice computer at a really nice price point.  The only thing left is a GPU.  I had my eyes on a MSI GTX 760 Twin Frozr for $250, that is what I would have bought if I wanted to stay at my $800 budget. 

I opted for the MSI GTX 770 Lightning which cost $360, I went over budget, but I am confident I increased the lifespan of my computer by at least 2 years by spending an additional $100.  Now, the lightning is one of the best 770s, and I admit I went a little overboard with this purchase, I would have been just as well off if I bought a different model of 770 at closer to $300. 

What I'm trying to get across is, buy a nicer graphics card.  Explain to your parents that you can stay in budget with a $250 card and have it last for 3 years, or you can spend an additional $100 and have that card and the computer as a whole last up to 5 years.

 

Most enthusiasts wont let their graphics cards remain as is for longer than 2-3 years.  But you don't strike me as someone who is itching to upgrade to the newest technology every time it comes out.  Buy a GTX 770, spend that extra money where you will see the most performance gains and longevity for your system.

 

EVGA GTX 760 - $250

 

Asus GTX 760 - $240

 

Gigabyte GTX 770 Windforce - $330

 

Be patient, if you don't need your new computer immediately, take your time, not just on the graphics card, but every aspect of your system.  Waiting out the best deals for each component, saving $10-$20 here and there adds up, and before you know it, you have stretched your dollar because you were patient.  Sign up for some E-blasts: Newegg, Microcenter, Tigerdirect.  Check the hot deals section of this forum.

 

Best of luck, you've come to a great forum for help, it was only a few weeks ago that I was starting my own build, and everyone here was very helpful, so much so that I've stuck around to partake in this amazing online community. 

[PCGamerNewb]

ok well i do want to future proof and get the most out of my next build but no offense i don't think your understanding here my mother is paying a lot on her own 3 phone bills, rent and utilities i am going to have to wait months to get just a simple 600-700$ build with that gpu it makes it 200$ more i know a bit for a 13 year old and it sounds like a great card but sadly my mother can't do it. sorry if i sound pretty desperate but i need a good build and why wouldn't the r9 last more than 10 months? From my understanding 4gb of ram is plenty of ram on a gpu again im 13 pardon if im sounding stupid but elaborate please.

[Faceman]

I don't mean an R9 270x wont last more than 10 months, I just mean it wont be as appealing. 10 months is almost a year, and you want to try and get the most recent card possible.  10 months is also a long time, a lot can change in terms of pricing, graphics cards capabilities.  If you have to wait 10 months, then I wouldn't revisit this idea until much closer to the time of build so you have a better understanding of the landscape.