PC fails to boot requires inconsistent number of restarts.

[ClonicMechanics]

Hello everyone, I've been having a issue with my PC sense may 7 when I created my last topic here. Notably the issues brought up their have been fixed. Every time I turn my PC on, it shows the starting windows screen but After the orbs appear it will cycle through them for a while then black screen then it goes back to the start up image with the orbs frozen in place. I've tried just letting it continue to see if it was just a issue with it taking a while to load particular file. In the end though I have to turn it off and back on. I have to do that every time this happens. After 3 times windows startup repair loads then one more restart and I'm officially in window. Any reboots after this point have no issue. It seems to only happen from a cold boot. Any help would be appreciated.
 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	Purchased For $0.00
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master MasterLiquid Lite 240 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	Purchased For $0.00
Motherboard	Asus PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	Purchased For $0.00
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	Purchased For $0.00
Storage	Crucial MX300 275 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Storage	Seagate FireCuda 2 TB 2.5" 5400RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Video Card	MSI Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB MECH OC Video Card	$0.00
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P400S ATX Mid Tower Case	Purchased For $0.00
Power Supply	SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	Purchased For $0.00
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit	Purchased For $0.00
Case Fan	Rosewill ROCF-13001 38.2 CFM 120 mm Fan
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I've used driver identifier and have updated every driver and the bios to the latest version.

My troubleshooting let me to believe it may have been Asus Aura at the time but I fixed that now. The only thing it may is windows. I reset my PC the other day and I'm still having the issue. Window has stated its failed updates but that's inconsistent as well.

Edited May 18, 2020 by ClonicMechanics
Didnt have it formated correctly.

[ClonicMechanics]

3 minutes ago, BlueScope819 said:

Some windows files appear to be corrupted; you can run startup repair or if that fails reinstall windows.

I guess it may be borked that badly Ill have to do a full wipe and reinstall because what I tried the other day was within startup repair.

 

[Tristerin]

Migrated disk with OS from another build?  Yeah, while Windows is okay at getting things to "work" because of generic drivers, a fresh install is always recommended from me when doing a massive hardware change (hell for me, if I change GPU /RAM/PSU no reinstall, but if I change out storage -that was the OS drive-, mobo or CPU - we get a fresh install)

[ClonicMechanics]

1 minute ago, Tristerin said:

Migrated disk with OS from another build?  Yeah, while Windows is okay at getting things to "work" because of generic drivers, a fresh install is always recommended from me when doing a massive hardware change (hell for me, if I change GPU /RAM/PSU no reinstall, but if I change out storage -that was the OS drive-, mobo or CPU - we get a fresh install)

well I upgraded the cpu when the 2600 came out. As for the RX 5600xt it was a recent upgrade everything was working just fine now I dont really have a good idea of whats going on because of the inconsistency.

[Tristerin]

10 minutes ago, ClonicMechanics said:

well I upgraded the cpu when the 2600 came out. As for the RX 5600xt it was a recent upgrade everything was working just fine now I dont really have a good idea of whats going on because of the inconsistency.

Did you use DDU to remove all GPU drivers before installing the 5600 XT?  And yes I consider a CPU upgrade worth reinstalling Windows

[ClonicMechanics]

Just now, Tristerin said:

Did you use DDU to remove all GPU drivers before installing the 5600 XT?  And yes I consider a CPU upgrade worth reinstalling Windows

yes Sir I did that because I was changing GPU manufactures I went from NVIDIA to AMD. The cpu upgrade I had done a fresh one.

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, ClonicMechanics said:

yes Sir I did that because I was changing GPU manufactures I went from NVIDIA to AMD. The cpu upgrade I had done a fresh one.

I personally would reinstall Windows to ensure there was no software issue with the hardware upgrade then

[ClonicMechanics]

2 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Did you use DDU to remove all GPU drivers before installing the 5600 XT?  And yes I consider a CPU upgrade worth reinstalling Windows

One other issue Ive seen is Asus may have not been keeping up to date on all of the drivers but I updated everything I could.

[ClonicMechanics]

1 minute ago, Tristerin said:

I personally would reinstall Windows to ensure there was no software issue with the hardware upgrade then

I guess It would be worth a try I just dont get why it would do it now Ive had the 5600xt sense March.

[Tristerin]

4 minutes ago, ClonicMechanics said:

I guess It would be worth a try I just dont get why it would do it now Ive had the 5600xt sense March.

Im talking about the CPU causing the issue - when I reinstall its to 100% eliminate any software glitches.  So I can then focus on hardware.

 

Yes if your BIOS revision is old - check that now, and read up on which you should be using for that CPU!

[ClonicMechanics]

1 minute ago, Tristerin said:

Im talking about the CPU causing the issue - when I reinstall its to 100% eliminate any software glitches.  So I can then focus on hardware.

 

Yes if your BIOS revision is old - check that now, and read up on which you should be using for that CPU!

I got the 2600 when it came out and did a fresh install after I installed it that was about a year ago now. my Bios revision is the latest for my board according to the Asus website at least.

[ClonicMechanics]

Just now, ClonicMechanics said:

I got the 2600 when it came out and did a fresh install after I installed it that was about a year ago now. my Bios revision is the latest for my board according to the Asus website at least.

Not trying to discredit you or misunderstand you but I'm meaning I don't get why this system would be doing it now unless windows itself is causing the issue now.

[Tristerin]

4 minutes ago, ClonicMechanics said:

I got the 2600 when it came out and did a fresh install after I installed it that was about a year ago now. my Bios revision is the latest for my board according to the Asus website at least.

Gotcha!  Thanks for clarifying - all important stuff when using the modicum of communication that is text - check your BIOS revision, it may be unsupported by Zen1 if you went to the latest revision - go through the list of BIOS updates and see if any mention of instability with previous generations to get Zen 2 to work on that board (which would be the MOST recent BIOS updates)

[ClonicMechanics]

7 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Gotcha!  Thanks for clarifying - all important stuff when using the modicum of communication that is text - check your BIOS revision, it may be unsupported by Zen1 if you went to the latest revision - go through the list of BIOS updates and see if any mention of instability with previous generations to get Zen 2 to work on that board (which would be the MOST recent BIOS updates)

Asus x370 prime pro Bios Version 5220 2019/09/24

This is the exact Bios im on at the moment and is the latest one according to the Asus website. https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-X370-PRO/HelpDesk_BIOS/

[ClonicMechanics]

12 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Gotcha!  Thanks for clarifying - all important stuff when using the modicum of communication that is text - check your BIOS revision, it may be unsupported by Zen1 if you went to the latest revision - go through the list of BIOS updates and see if any mention of instability with previous generations to get Zen 2 to work on that board (which would be the MOST recent BIOS updates)

Alright so what would you recommend me to do about this as well. It seems I have misplaced my windows key. I moved earlier this year and may have left it at the old place. I guess I can just use the media creation tool again and get a new key if I have to from SCDkey they have been very reputable in the past.

[Tristerin]

16 minutes ago, ClonicMechanics said:

Alright so what would you recommend me to do about this as well. It seems I have misplaced my windows key. I moved earlier this year and may have left it at the old place. I guess I can just use the media creation tool again and get a new key if I have to from SCDkey they have been very reputable in the past.

I personally have a Win 10 ISO I don't activate unless I want to (with either nefarious tools or as you note - buying a grey market key) 

 

If Media Creation will allow the Win 10 ISO to be created (Im not sure...I use more nefarious practices typically lol) then I would worry about the key last ($3-5 on ebay one shot use keys).  If one were so inclined its also a simple root change from a 1 to a 0 and Windows no longer searches for activation (which causes the Microsoft suite to not work - Outlook, Word etc and not allow you to change your Windows background but those are all expensive paid programs I personally don't use on my non work rigs)