Dead CPU, I think?

[Najm]

Hello everybody, I am new to the site and I think I will enjoy my time a lot here. I hope can learn a lot but right now I am looking for some advice.

 

Lately my PC has been shutting off randomly, and I went to the local pc store (I live in Jordan) and got myself a pretty nice double cpu fan (cooler master MA410M) And I also bought myself a hard drive just to lessen the load on the other hard drives. When I did this, my PC'c CPU was very cool, it never went hot another time. However, my pc still kept shutting off(just came back 2 days ago) and I opened on the task manager nd noticed cpu running at 100 percent CONSTANTLY. I refreshed my windows in case there was anything else which was causing this issue to happen, and I noticed after refreshing it was still 100 percent. So it came to my mind that the CPU is dead, it has gone to the next life. So my idea is to buy a Ryzen 3600, B450 mobo, and 8 gigs of ddr4 ram. Now I am a student and finances are extremely tight, so my question is, is it alright if I keep my R7 370 GPU which still works well enough, or should I go ahead and just buy a new GPU too which would really tighten my finances during this pandemic? Another question, if I upgrade to ryzen 3600 and 8gb of ram and a good b450 mobo and keep the r7 370, how many frames more would I have if I gotten a new gpu?

 

Lets say I get 50 frames playing metro exodus using the 3 new parts I mentioned and my old r7 370, how many frames would i get if i got the 3 new parts AND a new budget gpu?

Thanks for all the help in advance.

[vidyasager162]

4 minutes ago, Najm said:

Hello everybody, I am new to the site and I think I will enjoy my time a lot here. I hope can learn a lot but right now I am looking for some advice.

 

Lately my PC has been shutting off randomly, and I went to the local pc store (I live in Jordan) and got myself a pretty nice double cpu fan (cooler master MA410M) And I also bought myself a hard drive just to lessen the load on the other hard drives. When I did this, my PC'c CPU was very cool, it never went hot another time. However, my pc still kept shutting off(just came back 2 days ago) and I opened on the task manager nd noticed cpu running at 100 percent CONSTANTLY. I refreshed my windows in case there was anything else which was causing this issue to happen, and I noticed after refreshing it was still 100 percent. So it came to my mind that the CPU is dead, it has gone to the next life. So my idea is to buy a Ryzen 3600, B450 mobo, and 8 gigs of ddr4 ram. Now I am a student and finances are extremely tight, so my question is, is it alright if I keep my R7 370 GPU which still works well enough, or should I go ahead and just buy a new GPU too which would really tighten my finances during this pandemic? Another question, if I upgrade to ryzen 3600 and 8gb of ram and a good b450 mobo and keep the r7 370, how many frames more would I have if I gotten a new gpu?

 

Lets say I get 50 frames playing metro exodus using the 3 new parts I mentioned and my old r7 370, how many frames would i get if i got the 3 new parts AND a new budget gpu?

Thanks for all the help in advance.

That really depends on what GPU you get... Check whether the GPU you have can smoothly work without any bottle neck on the B450 mobo with the Ryzen 3600

[Bombastinator]

I would think from your description that the cpu is the least likely of your components to be dead.  It might be a memory malware, driver, or gpu problem, but your cpu seems to work.

[Najm]

8 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

I would think from your description that the cpu is the least likely of your components to be dead.  It might be a memory malware, driver, or gpu problem, but your cpu seems to work.

So its normal for the cpu to be running at 100 percent 24/7 with nothing open? Also, drivers were up to date, and no malware since i had done a windows recovery.

[Najm]

29 minutes ago, vidyasager162 said:

That really depends on what GPU you get... Check whether the GPU you have can smoothly work without any bottle neck on the B450 mobo with the Ryzen 3600

How could I check online? I am sure it will bottleneck at least a bit, its an old gpu I just want to know if it will be so horrible, because I dont have finances to get a new gpu too.

[Bombastinator]

43 minutes ago, Najm said:

So its normal for the cpu to be running at 100 percent 24/7 with nothing open? Also, drivers were up to date, and no malware since i had done a windows recovery.

No, it is not.  The fact that it can though says that it works.  I didn’t say nothing was wrong with the machine.  The cpu is running code flat out.  Where is the code coming from?

[Najm]

4 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

No, it is not.  The fact that it can though says that it works.  I didn’t say nothing was wrong with the machine.  The cpu is running code flat out.  Where is the code coming from?

Sorry I dont understand what you mean, what is the code? 

[Fasauceome]

You should check for malware with a virus scan, perhaps use Malwarebytes. You should also try running Windows in safe mode (lots of online guides to see how to do that) and also make sure you disable as many programs as you can that are set to open on start-up.

[Najm]

51 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

You should check for malware with a virus scan, perhaps use Malwarebytes. You should also try running Windows in safe mode (lots of online guides to see how to do that) and also make sure you disable as many programs as you can that are set to open on start-up.

Doesnt recoveringh windows 10 to its original form already remove all applications? Idid that. unless malware can stay eveen after than, i dont know honestly does it?

[vidyasager162]

1 hour ago, Najm said:

How could I check online? I am sure it will bottleneck at least a bit, its an old gpu I just want to know if it will be so horrible, because I dont have finances to get a new gpu too.

It wouldn't be horrible but it would be better... Like way much better if you get a new GPU 

[Bombastinator]

3 hours ago, Najm said:

Sorry I dont understand what you mean, what is the code? 

The programming.  The stuff the CPU is processing to make it run flat out.

 

cpu stands for central processor unit.  It’s a processor.  It processes things.  It’s clearly processing something as hard as it can.  What?

[LauRoman]

Not necessarily. It may run this hard because of malware that is running in the background, or because of hardware interrupts that may be due to bad drivers and/or faulty hardware and quite a few other reasons.

[Bombastinator]

2 hours ago, Najm said:

Doesnt recoveringh windows 10 to its original form already remove all applications? Idid that. unless malware can stay eveen after than, i dont know honestly does it?

Sometimes.  Sometimes not.

[Najm]

6 minutes ago, LauRoman said:

Not necessarily. It may run this hard because of malware that is running in the background, or because of hardware interrupts that may be due to bad drivers and/or faulty hardware and quite a few other reasons.

All my drivers are updated, and yes I am thinking the mobo might be faulty too.

[LauRoman]

You seem to be set in your way that your cpu is dead. It could be. But you have a few steps to take before confirming that.

Reset the bios and see if stuff happens the same.

Run a linux live cd and see how the cpu behaves ( most have some monitoring software included).

 

Remove all unnecessary hardware, Any pci cards and ssd/hdd/discs, front panel usb and audio connections, even the gpu (if the cpu has an integrated gpu). Start with reseating one stick of ram (usually the farthest from the cpu) and see if stuff is the same. Then add another stick of ram and see if it is the same and so on.

You should also probably try and change sata cables (at least on the drive that has windows).

 

Do not, DO NOT... DO... NOT use driver updating software because a lot of them will mess up at least one important driver.