Gpu overheating or throttling

[VIR98]

I am using laptop MSI GS63 VR ,1060 6gb, i7 7th gen, while playing games my gpu temperature is 91degree celcius even in low graphics settings or if i high my graphics settings its same too ..... every game it reaches 91 ....even i run cooler boost it never helps i repasted the thermal paste and clean every fan of my laptop

[5x5]

Yep, overheating. Sounds like a broken heatpipe or heapipes if cleaning and repasting didn't help

[Imglidinhere]

25 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Yep, overheating. Sounds like a broken heatpipe or heapipes if cleaning and repasting didn't help

Probably not a broken anything. It's normal for a laptop to need to be repasted after a few years. TIM gets all dry and caked and such.

[5x5]

1 minute ago, Imglidinhere said:

Probably not a broken anything. It's normal for a laptop to need to be repasted after a few years. TIM gets all dry and caked and such.

His temps are after repasting AND cleaning the laptop. It's most likely a damaged heatpipe

[Imglidinhere]

2 hours ago, 5x5 said:

His temps are after repasting AND cleaning the laptop. It's most likely a damaged heatpipe

Okay so... then a bad application? I've done that plenty of times.

[5x5]

27 minutes ago, Imglidinhere said:

Okay so... then a bad application? I've done that plenty of times.

That won't make it run at 100*C tgo

[Imglidinhere]

3 hours ago, 5x5 said:

That won't make it run at 100*C tgo

It absolutely can! Yes, in fact, a bad repaste will worsen temperatures.

[VIR98]

Can i try undervolting it ?...is it safe ?....but i don't know how to undervolt

[5x5]

2 hours ago, VIR98 said:

Can i try undervolting it ?...is it safe ?....but i don't know how to undervolt

That won't help. You need a new cooling assembly since you've somehow ended up with a damaged heapipe. Only reasonable explanation.

 

7 hours ago, Imglidinhere said:

It absolutely can! Yes, in fact, a bad repaste will worsen temperatures.

No it cannot. A bad repaste cannot make a system go from 60*C to 100*C under load.

[Darkseth]

Nope, not overheating: https://www.nvidia.com/en-sg/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1060/

Nvidia says, maximum GPU temperature is 94°C. Unless you hit 95°C, it's not overheating ^^

 

And Undervolting DOES help. It helps Multiple times more than every Thermalpaste ever would (unless there is ketchup applied, and not thermal paste).

I did that with my GTX 1080 MSI Gaming X. Thermalpaste replaced with a Thermalgrizzly Kryonaut. It got me maybe 2-3°C, at best.
Undervolting however got me 10°C less, and a LOT lower Fan speed. Finally, i got it "quiet" under Load.

 

 

There's a german Thread, that shows how to do it properly with MSI Afterburner Curve Editor: https://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=11113697#post11113697

 

A small "how to" from me:

Let's say, you want a "strong" Undervolt of 0,85 Volt:

- Open MSI Afterburner --> CTRL F for Curve Editor

- Hold Shift -> Take the 0,800 Volt Dot, and drag it to like 1850-1870 Mhz (that should be stable with a GTX 1060 from my experience. My Desktop one hit 1876 Mhz stable with 0,800 Volts even).

- You will see, the whole Curve moves. That's waht you want.

- Take every Dot right from that with a higher Voltage, and drag it BELOW your Clock speed. No matter how far, just below. Press Apply -> It will be completely horizontally Flat above 0,850 Volt

- 0,800 Volt now is combined with the highest Clock in the Curve = it will never boost above 0,850 Volt.

 

 

Depending on how your Chip is, you might not hit 1850 Mhz with 0.800 Volt stable. Then just try 1800 Mhz, or 1750 Mhz (or smaller steps).

Or try the Clocks with 0,850 Volt, or 0,900 Volt.

 

Oh yea, you can always give the GPU a solid +200 to +400 Mhz Memory Clock Speed.

[VIR98]

Sorry but undervolting didn't helped me a single degree

[VIR98]

1850 as you told me but 

 

[VIR98]

Undervolting stop my cpu thermal throttling from 94 to 80 ....i have used extream tunning utility for this ...msi afterburner didn't helped me 

[Darkseth]

You didn't forgot to "Apply" the changes, right?

 

Strange, usually MSI Afterburner works even with Notebook GPUs

[VIR98]

Applied but ....started getting blue screen

[VIR98]

It wasn't helpful ..sorry to say

[Darkseth]

27 minutes ago, VIR98 said:

Applied but ....started getting blue screen

If that happened, the Setting probably wasn't stable.

My exact Numbers for Voltage AND Clock speed were simply my personal experience what was stable on MY GTX 1060 Desktop i had before.

Just as an Orientation where to start.

YOUR Chip might behave different. Maybe your GPU can't do 1850 Mhz stable with only 0,800 Mhz.

If that was the Case, then try the same with 1800 Mhz. Or 1750 Mhz. Or 1700.

 

There is no exact guide to Overclocking, which tells you which numbers will be 100% perfect. Because every single Chip is Unique here.

 

And since you have a Laptop, it might also be not compareable. so i don't know exactly which Clocks will be stable with 0,800 Volt. But i can tell you how to find that out

[VIR98]

How can i find it?

[Imglidinhere]

On 4/5/2020 at 4:30 AM, 5x5 said:

No it cannot. A bad repaste cannot make a system go from 60*C to 100*C under load.

Yes it can. A bad repaste absolutely can hurt performance. @Mr. Fox

[5x5]

16 hours ago, VIR98 said:

Applied but ....started getting blue screen

Keep listening to the advice here, you'll bake the laptop and kill it. You have a defective heatpipe, this model does not run at 90C normally

[VIR98]

Okay.....

But i learned about heat pipes it last long around 15years ...and my laptop is 2 year old

[VIR98]

Now i am facing new problem without thermal throttling .....i think my laptop is done 

[Darkseth]

If you overclocked the Memory clock, undo that, and check again.

 

If you undo every Undervolt/overclock settings, does this go away?