Graphics Card Issue Please Help!

[Putterman]

Hi,

I play on a 240 Hz monitor and usually play Overwatch (Video Game). I usually play on all low settings and it has no issue hitting the 240 frames cap. Recently though the GPU has only been running at 61-62 degrees Celsius and fluctuates from 160-240 Hz whereas before it would run at 83 degrees Celsius and run at 240 Hz constantly. When I increase the setting past what it can do the temperature does increase to 83 degrees Celsius and doesn't hit 240 Hz because the graphics card isn't strong enough but it does run at it max potential. I'm currently on the newest Nvidia drivers. It has never had this issue over the past 2-3 years and just started about 2 weeks ago. If anyone knows how to fix this please let me know. I can also answer any questions.

Thanks,

Putterman

 

Specs:

Bios Version: American Megatrends Inc. 0801, 4/13/2017

OS: Windows 10 64 Bit

GPU: GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition

CPU: Intel i7-7700 Kaby Lake

RAM: 32 GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series

Mother Board: STRIX H270 chipset motherboard

Power Supply: 500W (Not Sure Brand)

[Jurrunio]

Maybe a game update made it heavier on other parts of the computer, say the CPU? 7700's frequency isn't that high to begin with for example, and I doubt your memory to be especially good either.

[YaroslavZvyagin]

i think the gpu is fine, it's just that completely stable 240fps is very hard for a CPU, even for the 7700 , especially on a 3.6GHz , sometimes as the Jurrunio said - updates mess up the game's fps..

[SavageNeo]

What motherboard you have? You could upgrade to i7 8700k (used) and oc it a bit. Or even used k version of the i7 7700, they are not that expensive used. i7 7700k at 4.5ghz0 is much better than that 3.6ghz.

 

Or you could get an AMD cpu, but its cheaper to just get something like i7 8700k

[Putterman]

15 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Maybe a game update made it heavier on other parts of the computer, say the CPU? 7700's frequency isn't that high to begin with for example, and I doubt your memory to be especially good either.

Yea that's possible my CPU might be maxing out I guess. If nothing else works I'll try and upgrade it. 

12 hours ago, SavageNeo said:

What motherboard you have? You could upgrade to i7 8700k (used) and oc it a bit. Or even used k version of the i7 7700, they are not that expensive used. i7 7700k at 4.5ghz0 is much better than that 3.6ghz.

 

Or you could get an AMD cpu, but its cheaper to just get something like i7 8700k

Sorry, I just updated my computer specs on the original post. Upgrading the CPU seems like what everyone thinks so that's probably whats wrong.

[tdkid]

the issue doesn't sound like a CPU issue to me as its relatively new being an i5 7700. if you are increasing the amount of temps before the fans kick on then you have a temperature issue which is most likely caused by your GPU not cooling itself correctly orproperly and that is usually caused by the thermal paste on the chip being dried out so before you spend the $300 on a new or used CPU, spend $20-$50 on some new thermal paste, take the GPU apart and see if that is the issue. 

[Jurrunio]

14 hours ago, SavageNeo said:

What motherboard you have? You could upgrade to i7 8700k (used) and oc it a bit

Another bait from Intel: same socket, not compatible

[Putterman]

7 hours ago, tdkid said:

the issue doesn't sound like a CPU issue to me as its relatively new being an i5 7700. if you are increasing the amount of temps before the fans kick on then you have a temperature issue which is most likely caused by your GPU not cooling itself correctly orproperly and that is usually caused by the thermal paste on the chip being dried out so before you spend the $300 on a new or used CPU, spend $20-$50 on some new thermal paste, take the GPU apart and see if that is the issue. 

Well the GPU does go up to 83 Degrees Celcius when I increase the settings in a game but when I have it at low settings it won't increase to the temperature it needs to to reach 240 fps. 

5 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Another bait from Intel: same socket, not compatible

If it comes down to it I'm willing to upgrade my motherboard.

[tdkid]

41 minutes ago, Putterman said:

Well the GPU does go up to 83 Degrees Celcius when I increase the settings in a game but when I have it at low settings it won't increase to the temperature it needs to to reach 240 fps. 

If it comes down to it I'm willing to upgrade my motherboard.

 

this is either going to be a GPU, cable or monitor issue. I am leaning towards GPU because 83C while gaming is hot and most of the time the GPU will throttle itself back on certain settings to keep itself and the computer safe. the other things I think it could be are your cable from the GPU to the monitor or the monitor itself.

 

what you have is the founders edition GPU and they are known for being hot running cards because of small fans and covering most of the heat sync fins.

[YaroslavZvyagin]

On 4/4/2020 at 4:59 AM, Putterman said:

Well the GPU does go up to 83 Degrees Celcius when I increase the settings in a game but when I have it at low settings it won't increase to the temperature it needs to to reach 240 fps. 

definitely cpu or psu, one out of 2 :), low settings = harder for cpu , i'll explain why

gpu is fine because it's maxing itself out whenever you use Ultra settings, you said so yourself, 83C during gaming is normal and that's not a throttling, it would throttle only on 90 or 94 (most cards do)

if you will switch low to medium - most likely your fps will barely change , maybe will not even change at all, simply because it just can't go above the ~160 or how much you said it was

 

why it may be cpu ? - refuses to go to stable 240fps

why it may be psu ? - 12v rails may be poor towards cpu or it can't really handle high load on the cpu + gpu together stable due to either poor 12v or 500w

why it's not gpu - it works fine whenever you play on Ultra, goes to high 83C on ultra while stays on 60s whenever you play on low because it simply can't go above 60s due to the cpu or psu can't exceed the 160fps which holds the card down, your card does not overheat, neither on it's 60s neither on it's 83s

why it's not gpu#2 - most likely on medium, low-medium, or medium-high you will have around the same fps as on all low

 

i own a ryzen threadripper 1920x and it's max fps potential is much lower than an i7 7700 in games, in most of them at least, most will hit a wall after 100~120fps mark. before that i owned an 6700K and for it to reach 144fps in older titles was easy, but not something as heavy as AC Odyssey or watch dogs 2 sure

r7 1700 is a bit better for gaming than mine but it's still will hit a wall at around the same fps as the mark which i wrote above in most of the titles, even when being better than tr1920x

 

basically 240stable fps for a cpu is really hard in Some games, some others may go as high as 1~3k fps e.g. osu!
for the highest possibility of hitting the stable 240 in every game or at least most of them i would suggest you to get the very latest Intel processor since they outperform Amd in single thread score generally , and 8 16 is plenty for gaming (new 10th generation intel also soon will be out) , and some higher watts 80+ psu, your ram is really good.

i will just leave this here to give you some idea of what may be happening on your end , the guy uses 2080 ti and a 7700K, not just 7700 , yet as you can see, the CPU struggles to go above ~140ish fps in most of titles there even when gpu still have some %'s free, sure they are much much heavier titles than the one which you play however yours also is lower GHz, the GPU also doesn't matter that much because it can't be utilized fully anyway, notice the gpu load on both sides, it's not full on either of them, lowering the ingame settings or resolution would give a bit more fps but not much, simply because the gpu already is resting. - 

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offtopic:
somehow threadripper 1920x have more fps in league of legends though, i assume it's because the game's engine since around 2017 got changed and it made it so that every cpu above 2 cores doesn't really boost the fps much (thus all the streamers which you can find, even the ones on 6700k~9900k do lack stable 144fps, they even reduce some settings to reach it or get as close as possible(lower ingame resolution also helps but just barely), because reduction of ingame settings/resolution may only give around 5fps since it's cpu, this isn't really being widespread so don't laugh on me, instead google "can't maintain 144fps league of legends", since it affects all the cpus that even some old i5 or r3 are ~matching the r7/i7/i9)