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I'm gonna follow the template that was made for this forum page.

1. Budget & Location

So my budget $1000 US dollars. And to be specific about my location, I live in the Dallas, Texas area.

2. Aim

I am probably going to be using the PC for school work as I am still in high school. I probably would do some game but I'll explain my situation in #5 but for rn, here's my current PcPartPicker list:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $159.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital Blue 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $54.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.98 @ Newegg
Video Card Asus Radeon RX 580 8 GB ROG STRIX Video Card $179.99 @ B&H
Case NZXT H210 Mini ITX Tower Case $88.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair CV 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $43.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $862.89
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $842.89
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-31 23:47 EDT-0400  

3. Monitors

I currently have a Dell ST2210b. I probably want to upgrade from this as this is the only monitor we have in the house. This monitor is also hooked up to my laptop and I use both screen, so I probably will need 2 monitors. A minimum of 1080p is good for both monitors

4. Peripherals

I do have a Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 4000 and some keyboards and a HyperX Cloud Stinger headset. So I just need some Monitors. I am also using Windows but there could be a chance I might dual-boot linux, not 100% sure

5. Why are you upgrading?

So, I have been using laptops for all my life except with my old Dell Dimension 4600. Other than that, just laptops. I also mainly game on Xbox but I want to slowly merge into pc gaming. I will probably still stick with Xbox but there could be some times where I would like to have a PC for certain games abd some programs that my laptop can't handle.

 

If you have any question, let me know. Thank you

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler $39.99 @ Best Buy
Motherboard ASRock B450M Steel Legend Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $76.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $69.95 @ B&H
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.98 @ Newegg
Video Card PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Video Card $383.98 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design Define Mini C TG MicroATX Mid Tower Case $98.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $102.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1002.84
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-01 00:07 EDT-0400  

 

This is a significantly faster PC with a much better PSU. If you absolutely must have ITX, I could whip something up but why do you want to kill your upgrade path and make the build significantly harder for no particular gain?

CPU: Core i9 12900K || CPU COOLER : Corsair H100i Pro XT || MOBO : ASUS Prime Z690 PLUS D4 || GPU: PowerColor RX 6800XT Red Dragon || RAM: 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance (3200) || SSDs: Samsung 970 Evo 250GB (Boot), Crucial P2 1TB, Crucial MX500 1TB (x2), Samsung 850 EVO 1TB || PSU: Corsair RM850 || CASE: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini || MONITOR: Acer Predator X34A (1440p 100hz), HP 27yh (1080p 60hz) || KEYBOARD: GameSir GK300 || MOUSE: Logitech G502 Hero || AUDIO: Bose QC35 II || CASE FANS : 2x Corsair ML140, 1x BeQuiet SilentWings 3 120 ||

 

LAPTOP: Dell XPS 15 7590

TABLET: iPad Pro

PHONE: Galaxy S9

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10 minutes ago, TFM110 said:

I'm gonna follow the template that was made for this forum page.

1. Budget & Location

So my budget $1000 US dollars. And to be specific about my location, I live in the Dallas, Texas area.

2. Aim

I am probably going to be using the PC for school work as I am still in high school. I probably would do some game but I'll explain my situation in #5 but for rn, here's my current PcPartPicker list:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $159.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital Blue 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $54.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.98 @ Newegg
Video Card Asus Radeon RX 580 8 GB ROG STRIX Video Card $179.99 @ B&H
Case NZXT H210 Mini ITX Tower Case $88.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair CV 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $43.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $862.89
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $842.89
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-31 23:47 EDT-0400  

3. Monitors

I currently have a Dell ST2210b. I probably want to upgrade from this as this is the only monitor we have in the house. This monitor is also hooked up to my laptop and I use both screen, so I probably will need 2 monitors. A minimum of 1080p is good for both monitors

4. Peripherals

I do have a Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 4000 and some keyboards and a HyperX Cloud Stinger headset. So I just need some Monitors. I am also using Windows but there could be a chance I might dual-boot linux, not 100% sure

5. Why are you upgrading?

So, I have been using laptops for all my life except with my old Dell Dimension 4600. Other than that, just laptops. I also mainly game on Xbox but I want to slowly merge into pc gaming. I will probably still stick with Xbox but there could be some times where I would like to have a PC for certain games abd some programs that my laptop can't handle.

 

If you have any question, let me know. Thank you

I'd get rid of that internal Hard Drive and get an external one. If something happens to your computer, say it gets infected with a virus, nothing is stopping the virus from doing the same thing to your internal HDD as well. If you are buying an extra storage drive to be a backup, then its not a true backup if it still has to be connected directly to the motherboard for it to work. When you buy an external hard drive and your computer is all set, back everything up to that external drive as a system image file right away. 

 

System Specs

  • CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
  • Motherboard
    Gigabyte AMD X570 Auros Master
  • RAM
    G.Skill Ripjaws 32 GBs
  • GPU
    Red Devil RX 5700XT
  • Case
    Corsair 570X
  • Storage
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 2TB - HDD Seagate B arracuda 1TB - External Seagate HDD 8TB
  • PSU
    G.Skill RipJaws 1250 Watts
  • Keyboard
    Corsair Gaming Keyboard K55
  • Mouse
    Razer Naga Trinity
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
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10 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

If you absolutely must have ITX, I could whip something up but why do you want to kill your upgrade path and make the build significantly harder for no particular gain?

TBH, I went for a ITX because I don't want a big PC, especially since I'm more of an xBox player. I don't need a extremely good gear, just components that will run as I need.

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Just now, TFM110 said:

TBH, I meant went for a ITX because I don't want a big PC, especially since I'm more of an xBox player. I don't need a extremely good gear, just components that will run as I need.

This will run much better than the PC you have listed and is still quite small (by normal PC standards anyway, extreme SFF stuff aside)

CPU: Core i9 12900K || CPU COOLER : Corsair H100i Pro XT || MOBO : ASUS Prime Z690 PLUS D4 || GPU: PowerColor RX 6800XT Red Dragon || RAM: 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance (3200) || SSDs: Samsung 970 Evo 250GB (Boot), Crucial P2 1TB, Crucial MX500 1TB (x2), Samsung 850 EVO 1TB || PSU: Corsair RM850 || CASE: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini || MONITOR: Acer Predator X34A (1440p 100hz), HP 27yh (1080p 60hz) || KEYBOARD: GameSir GK300 || MOUSE: Logitech G502 Hero || AUDIO: Bose QC35 II || CASE FANS : 2x Corsair ML140, 1x BeQuiet SilentWings 3 120 ||

 

LAPTOP: Dell XPS 15 7590

TABLET: iPad Pro

PHONE: Galaxy S9

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2 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

This will run much better than the PC you have listed and is still quite small (by normal PC standards anyway, extreme SFF stuff aside)

The main difference from both of our lists is the GPU and also, the motherboard price isn't up so it will be over my 1k budget. And for the GPU, I don't need a powerful GPU

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32 minutes ago, TFM110 said:

The main difference from both of our lists is the GPU and also, the motherboard price isn't up so it will be over my 1k budget. And for the GPU, I don't need a powerful GPU

You don't need a powerful gpu? whatever the case, you will still benefit from one since you will not need to upgrade for longer with the 5700XT than the 580. Also, you can get a cheaper board such as the Asrock b450 pro4

CPU: Core i9 12900K || CPU COOLER : Corsair H100i Pro XT || MOBO : ASUS Prime Z690 PLUS D4 || GPU: PowerColor RX 6800XT Red Dragon || RAM: 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance (3200) || SSDs: Samsung 970 Evo 250GB (Boot), Crucial P2 1TB, Crucial MX500 1TB (x2), Samsung 850 EVO 1TB || PSU: Corsair RM850 || CASE: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini || MONITOR: Acer Predator X34A (1440p 100hz), HP 27yh (1080p 60hz) || KEYBOARD: GameSir GK300 || MOUSE: Logitech G502 Hero || AUDIO: Bose QC35 II || CASE FANS : 2x Corsair ML140, 1x BeQuiet SilentWings 3 120 ||

 

LAPTOP: Dell XPS 15 7590

TABLET: iPad Pro

PHONE: Galaxy S9

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41 minutes ago, TFM110 said:

The main difference from both of our lists is the GPU and also, the motherboard price isn't up so it will be over my 1k budget. And for the GPU, I don't need a powerful GPU

If you want something small, then you can get a micro-atx mini case, some of them are about the same size as the case you selected, this will give you more options for your MB and cases, which are about half the price of the mini-itx typ.   At least get a MB with an m.2 nvme slot

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32 minutes ago, TylerDurden! said:

If you want something small, then you can get a micro-atx mini case, some of them are about the same size as the case you selected, this will give you more options for your MB and cases, which are about half the price of the mini-itx typ.   At least get a MB with an m.2 nvme slot

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Asus TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $89.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital Blue 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $54.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.98 @ Newegg
Video Card Asus Radeon RX 580 8 GB ROG STRIX Video Card $179.99 @ B&H
Case Fractal Design Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case $97.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $124.99 @ Best Buy
Wireless Network Adapter Asus PCE-AC68 PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter $83.99 @ Newegg
Case Fan Fractal Design HP12-PWM 61.4 CFM 120 mm Fan $19.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $966.87
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-01 01:45 EDT-0400  

 

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did I mention I do not like pcpartpicker... what a piece of crap site, they have so much stuff that does not even have a price next to it.  

It is faster just to go on newegg and find what you want, and then if you want to crunch some numbers then you can look at amazon, ebay, or just throw the part number in google, and if you want some refurb stuff to save a few bucks, you can do that too.

 

anyways, check out the ASRock B450M/AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard   it has built in AC wifi and bluetooth, so you can ditch the extra addin card crap

change that non-nvme m.2 drive to a nvme drive like a ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive or get the 1tb version

you can get 4tb drives also for cheap, I like the NAS drivers because they are built for longevity, I usually just buy hitachi refurbs for around $60 and never had an issue with them, and they come with a warranty (newegg) 

I would then either check out an rtx 5600 or 5700 series card both of which give you so much more for a little more money (that you saved from not buying that wireless pci card

 

 

 

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $159.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $79.99 @ B&H
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.98 @ Newegg
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB STRIX GAMING ADVANCED Video Card $249.99 @ B&H
Case NZXT H210 Mini ITX Tower Case $88.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair CV 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $44.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $958.89
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $938.89
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-01 06:28 EDT-0400  

or this?

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Asus TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $89.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $79.99 @ B&H
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.98 @ Newegg
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB STRIX GAMING ADVANCED Video Card $249.99 @ B&H
Case Fractal Design Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case $97.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $117.97 @ Newegg
Case Fan Fractal Design HP12-PWM 61.4 CFM 120 mm Fan $19.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $970.86
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-01 06:29 EDT-0400  

 

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8 hours ago, TFM110 said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $159.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $79.99 @ B&H
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.98 @ Newegg
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB STRIX GAMING ADVANCED Video Card $249.99 @ B&H
Case NZXT H210 Mini ITX Tower Case $88.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair CV 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $44.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $958.89
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $938.89
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-01 06:28 EDT-0400  

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Asus TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $89.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $79.99 @ B&H
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.98 @ Newegg
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB STRIX GAMING ADVANCED Video Card $249.99 @ B&H
Case Fractal Design Meshify C Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case $97.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $117.97 @ Newegg
Case Fan Fractal Design HP12-PWM 61.4 CFM 120 mm Fan $19.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $970.86
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-01 06:29 EDT-0400  

 

The 1st one is much better though the PSU is still not great. Look at Cooler Master MasterWatt 550 or Corsair Cx550M

CPU: Core i9 12900K || CPU COOLER : Corsair H100i Pro XT || MOBO : ASUS Prime Z690 PLUS D4 || GPU: PowerColor RX 6800XT Red Dragon || RAM: 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance (3200) || SSDs: Samsung 970 Evo 250GB (Boot), Crucial P2 1TB, Crucial MX500 1TB (x2), Samsung 850 EVO 1TB || PSU: Corsair RM850 || CASE: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini || MONITOR: Acer Predator X34A (1440p 100hz), HP 27yh (1080p 60hz) || KEYBOARD: GameSir GK300 || MOUSE: Logitech G502 Hero || AUDIO: Bose QC35 II || CASE FANS : 2x Corsair ML140, 1x BeQuiet SilentWings 3 120 ||

 

LAPTOP: Dell XPS 15 7590

TABLET: iPad Pro

PHONE: Galaxy S9

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8 hours ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

The 1st one is much better though the PSU is still not great. Look at Cooler Master MasterWatt 550 or Corsair Cx550M

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.99 @ B&H
Motherboard Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $159.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $79.99 @ B&H
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.98 @ Newegg
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB STRIX GAMING ADVANCED Video Card $249.99 @ B&H
Case NZXT H210 Mini ITX Tower Case $88.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $69.29 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $963.20
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-01 22:54 EDT-0400  

 

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Here:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $174.99 @ B&H
Motherboard Asus ROG Strix B450-I Gaming Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $159.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $84.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $79.99 @ B&H
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.98 @ Newegg
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB STRIX GAMING ADVANCED Video Card $249.99 @ B&H
Case NZXT H210 Mini ITX Tower Case $88.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $69.29 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $963.20
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-01 22:54 EDT-0400  

 

Yes. That is perfectly fine

CPU: Core i9 12900K || CPU COOLER : Corsair H100i Pro XT || MOBO : ASUS Prime Z690 PLUS D4 || GPU: PowerColor RX 6800XT Red Dragon || RAM: 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance (3200) || SSDs: Samsung 970 Evo 250GB (Boot), Crucial P2 1TB, Crucial MX500 1TB (x2), Samsung 850 EVO 1TB || PSU: Corsair RM850 || CASE: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini || MONITOR: Acer Predator X34A (1440p 100hz), HP 27yh (1080p 60hz) || KEYBOARD: GameSir GK300 || MOUSE: Logitech G502 Hero || AUDIO: Bose QC35 II || CASE FANS : 2x Corsair ML140, 1x BeQuiet SilentWings 3 120 ||

 

LAPTOP: Dell XPS 15 7590

TABLET: iPad Pro

PHONE: Galaxy S9

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7 hours ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

Yes. That is perfectly fine

Great, Thank you

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