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fkrauthan
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I've already posted here before with some ideas for a new build but most people said that I went overboard. So I want to try it this way. I would like to build/upgrade my existing PC with a budget of around 2000CAD. The use-cases I have in mind are as follow:

  1. Playing around with some 3D work with Blender
  2. Running some VM machines and IDEs (Intellij etc) for development
  3. Playing games (primary games I play at the moment include...)
    1. The Witcher 3 - Wild Hunt
    2. Red Dead Redemption 2
    3. Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege
    4. X-Plane 11 (and potentially the new Flight Simulator when it comes out)
  4. Playing some VR Games

My current PC boosts the following spec and the more parts this build could reuse the more I can spend on new parts (e.g. I am still happy with the graphics card for now).

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-4570 3.2 GHz Quad-Core Processor $655.77 @ Amazon Canada
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $34.75 @ Vuugo
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  
Memory Corsair Vengeance 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  
Memory Corsair Vengeance LP 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $404.99 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Storage Samsung 860 Evo 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $363.95 @ Vuugo
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB SC GAMING Video Card  
Case Fractal Design Define R4 ATX Mid Tower Case  
Power Supply Corsair Builder 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  
Optical Drive LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer  
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1459.46
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The only other requirement I have is to make it as quiet as possible (I really like the current build in regards of that). I have never done overclocking and so it does not need to be optimized for that. In addition to that I was thinking of switching to AMD but open for suggestions.

 

Thank you already for anyone that takes the time and gives me some suggestions for good components. Really appreciate it.

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I'd recommend a Ryzen 7 3700X with a big beefy air-cooler like the Noctua NH-D15 or Dark Rock Pro 4.

Such a big cooler can run fans on minimum speeds and still keep temperatures under control at full load, especially if you're running stock clocks.

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@RadiatingLight And you think that would all fit in the existing case? Or would I need to change my case? In addition to that it seem like Motherboards a lot that I find recommended online seem to be ether overpriced or not that good of quality based on some comments here. Do you have some good suggestions for that and a good power supply as well?

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1 minute ago, fkrauthan said:

@RadiatingLight And you think that would all fit in the existing case? Or would I need to change my case?

Yes it will fit. Define R4 has a max CPU cooler height of 170cm and NH-D15 is 160cm.

in summary, you should buy:

- 16GB DDR4 RAM at 3200Mhz or 3600Mhz (Ryzen likes high clockspeeds)

- AM4 Motherboard. (B450 reccomended, X570 if you want PCI-e 4.0) -- There's a motherboard tier list in my signature and I'd recommend tier C or higher. Also make sure that it supports 3rd gen Ryzen. MSI's "MAX" motherboards support it out of the box so do ASUS, and I've found the B450-A Pro Max a very good deal.

- Ryzen 7 3700X

- NH-D15 or Dark Rock Pro 4

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Hello,

 

In addition, I'd also change the PSU for something better (yours is really entry level) like a good Corsair RMx 550W or Phanteks AMP 550W.

 

And if you can spare it, a 5700XT Sapphire Pulse/Nitro+, Powercolor Red Dragon/Red Devil, Gigabyte Gaming OC/Aorus or MSI Gaming X.

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@RadiatingLight And since I've heard mixed opinions about AMD CPUs and RAM lets say I want 32GB would I get 2 sticks with 16GB each or better 4 sticks with 8GB each?

 

@Plouffe So a 550W PSU should be fine or should I go with like 650W (in case I want to upgrade my Graphics Card and potentially even go with a double graphics card)?

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12 minutes ago, fkrauthan said:

@RadiatingLight And since I've heard mixed opinions about AMD CPUs and RAM lets say I want 32GB would I get 2 sticks with 16GB each or better 4 sticks with 8GB each?

 

@Plouffe So a 550W PSU should be fine or should I go with like 650W (in case I want to upgrade my Graphics Card and potentially even go with a double graphics card)?

2x16 would be better since you could still upgrade if necessary.

 

550W should be enough for your current, 650W won't be enough for dual GPU and it's kinda dead now at least for gaming.

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4 hours ago, fkrauthan said:

And since I've heard mixed opinions about AMD CPUs and RAM lets say I want 32GB would I get 2 sticks with 16GB each or better 4 sticks with 8GB each?

Doesn't really matter. I'd personally go for two sticks if it's not too much extra cost, since it gives you the option to upgrade in the future, increases resale value, and doesn't add much performance.

 

(going from single-channel to dual-channel adds performance, which is one stick to two sticks, but beyond that it's mostly the same)

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Sorry to ping you guys both @RadiatingLight and @Plouffe but I was wondering if this setup is kinda of like what you guys could recommend (thank you very much for all your help and pointers):

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $399.50 @ Vuugo
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler $149.95 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 AORUS ULTRA ATX AM4 Motherboard $388.50 @ Vuugo
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $209.50 @ Vuugo
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $404.99 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Storage Samsung 860 Evo 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $363.95 @ Vuugo
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB SC GAMING Video Card  
Case Fractal Design Define R4 ATX Mid Tower Case  
Power Supply Phanteks AMP 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $119.99 @ Newegg Canada
Optical Drive LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer  
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $2036.38
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-17 20:05 EDT-0400  

And potentially upgrading the Graphics card at one point too as recommended. With this setup I should be able to upgrade in theory the processor to a Ryzen 9 3900x if I ever would need it correct? And is 3200 MHZ the recommended RAM Frequency for this CPU/Board?

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1 hour ago, fkrauthan said:

Sorry to ping you guys both @RadiatingLight and @Plouffe but I was wondering if this setup is kinda of like what you guys could recommend (thank you very much for all your help and pointers):

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $399.50 @ Vuugo
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler $149.95 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 AORUS ULTRA ATX AM4 Motherboard $388.50 @ Vuugo
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $209.50 @ Vuugo
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $404.99 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Storage Samsung 860 Evo 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $363.95 @ Vuugo
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB SC GAMING Video Card  
Case Fractal Design Define R4 ATX Mid Tower Case  
Power Supply Phanteks AMP 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $119.99 @ Newegg Canada
Optical Drive LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer  
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $2036.38
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-17 20:05 EDT-0400  

And potentially upgrading the Graphics card at one point too as recommended. With this setup I should be able to upgrade in theory the processor to a Ryzen 9 3900x if I ever would need it correct? And is 3200 MHZ the recommended RAM Frequency for this CPU/Board?

3600Mhz is called the sweet spot for Ryzen, but 3200Mhz isn't bad either. With such high-end components I'd considser 3600Mhz.

There's a bit of un-needed spending here, but if you want/need the performance, nothing here is bad or a total rip-off. (for example, you could consider a 2TB HDD if you don't need SSD speeds and save a couple hundred.)

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Desktop (Old but I never replaced it):

Delidded Core i7 4770K - GTX 1070 ROG Strix - 16GB DDR3 @2000Mhz

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Just now, RadiatingLight said:

(for example, you could consider a 2TB HDD if you don't need SSD speeds and save a couple hundred.)

Since I already own the two SSDs I wouldn't save anything. What I am considering is to get one of this M.2 PCI SSDs (probably 1TB) as my OS/Boot system. Ok I will swap out the 3200Mhz version for the 3600Mhz version. Thank you again for all your help and patients answering all my questions.

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if you want to play the new Flight simulator then you would need a 2070RTX or equivalent. 

AMD CPU for sure as has the cores, threads and performance for the price right now. 

you might even be able to go for a m-itx or m-ATX format, you can build a cool and quiet system still in small format. 

M.2 nvme for windows, and a hybrid drive for steam / files / D drive. 

I see your also on the west coast of Canada so its CAN dollars. 

going to be tight to build a Flight sim / work / games computer on a 2K budget. 

but we can always try and always look at old stock / sale components to keep the cost down. 

 

 

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6 hours ago, fkrauthan said:

@Frayia Something like this?: https://www.newegg.ca/msi-geforce-rtx-2070-super-rtx-2070-super-ventus-oc/p/N82E16814137438 

Yes sir, the MSI or Asus GPU to me looks like a good buy, also consider EVGA. 

everything all comes down to personnel preference, colour, manufacture and price, but i would for sure avoid the non name cheap GPU cards, stick with the main 4 common manufacturers (Asus, MSi,,Evga & Gigabite )

 

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i would go for a 750W PSU and gold or platinum rated. this will give you plenty of power for the GPU and CPU.

if you want to keep things low power consumption a 650W will also do, with 750 tops.

what kind of case and format do you want to go with, as if you want quiet and cool system look into the Corsair X-series split cases, the PSU and cables are mounted in separate compartment. 

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Crystal-Series-280X/p/CC-9011134-WW

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Carbide-Series™-Air-540-Silver-Edition-High-Airflow-ATX-Cube-Case/p/CC-9011034-WLED

 

I think they offer good quality and easy to build cases. 

 

 

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Here is a listing for a M-ATX build good enough for all round use. work horse and gaming.

you can also swop out the M/board and GPU for Msi if you prefer, i choose the Asus m/board because it support 64 gig of memory (you can upgrade later) also choose a 16 gig kit to keep cost down, you can opt for a 32 gig kit with 2x sticks if you want to go for 64 gig later. 

 

note i didn't include O/S or extra case fans and thermal compound, 

you can also look at full ATX system, i think cost slightly more, but you can get ones with built in wifi, seems M-ATX m/boards don't have wifi compared to m-itx or full size.

 

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31 minutes ago, Frayia said:

what kind of case and format do you want to go with, as if you want quiet and cool system look into the Corsair X-series split cases, the PSU and cables are mounted in separate compartment. 

I am going to reuse my "Fractal Design Define R4 ATX Mid Tower Case" case as its big enough and has some good sound insulation. So I guess a 650W is best if I wanna stay with my 1060 for now but possible upgrade the graphic card in the near future?

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if you want to save cost there are lots of good used GPU on ebay and other places, you can get a 1080ti Evga GPu for about $500 - 600.

or a 1070ti even cheaper, i run one now its its ok. 

 

i think for the case if you want a smaller system go for new because if will perform well and feel like a new computer.  all depends on your needs and taste, 

 

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if you want to save cost there are lots of good used GPU on ebay and other places, you can get a 1080ti Evga GPu for about $500 - 600.

or a 1070ti even cheaper, i run one now its its ok. 

 

i think for the case if you want a smaller system go for new because if will perform well and feel like a new computer.  all depends on your needs and taste, 

 

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@Frayia and @RadiatingLight so given all your feedback does this look like an OK build to you:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $298.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 AORUS ULTRA ATX AM4 Motherboard $289.00 @ B&H
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $172.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  
Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $199.99 @ Adorama
Storage Samsung 860 Evo 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $279.99 @ Adorama
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB SC GAMING Video Card  
Case Fractal Design Define R4 ATX Mid Tower Case  
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $119.99 @ Amazon
Optical Drive LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer $39.99 @ Best Buy
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1400.94
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-19 20:52 EDT-0400  

I picked the 650W Power supply so I have enough room to upgrade to a beefy Graphics Card at a later date (I want to wait what AMD is bringing on the market soon). I also added an M.2 NVME hard drive to supplement the two existing SSDs I already have and as the new boot and operating system drive.

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@Frayia and @RadiatingLight so given all your feedback does this look like an OK build to you:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $298.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 AORUS ULTRA ATX AM4 Motherboard $289.00 @ B&H
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $172.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung 850 EVO-Series 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  
Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $199.99 @ Adorama
Storage Samsung 860 Evo 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $279.99 @ Adorama
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB SC GAMING Video Card  
Case Fractal Design Define R4 ATX Mid Tower Case  
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $119.99 @ Amazon
Optical Drive LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer $39.99 @ Best Buy
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1400.94
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-19 20:52 EDT-0400  

I picked the 650W Power supply so I have enough room to upgrade to a beefy Graphics Card at a later date (I want to wait what AMD is bringing on the market soon). I also added an M.2 NVME hard drive to supplement the two existing SSDs I already have and as the new boot and operating system drive.

Yes that looks great.

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Laptop:

Lenovo Yoga 7 Air: Ryzen 7840S, 32GiB DDR5

 

Desktop (Old but I never replaced it):

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1 hour ago, RadiatingLight said:

Yes that looks great.

Actually one more thing. I just noticed that the pc picker website shows me this warning:
 

The Gigabyte X570 AORUS ULTRA ATX AM4 Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply does not. This connector is used to supply additional 12V current to the motherboard. While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands such as extreme overclocking or large video card current draws may require it.

 

Is that just an issue with the website or is that Power Supply not a good fit for this motherboard or is that additional 4-pin ATX power connection not really important?

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Actually one more thing. I just noticed that the pc picker website shows me this warning:
 

The Gigabyte X570 AORUS ULTRA ATX AM4 Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply does not. This connector is used to supply additional 12V current to the motherboard. While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands such as extreme overclocking or large video card current draws may require it.

 

Is that just an issue with the website or is that Power Supply not a good fit for this motherboard or is that additional 4-pin ATX power connection not really important?

It's there for extreme overclocking and you'll be totally fine without it. However, you might want to consider a power supply with the connector if you ever want to upgrade to a 3950X in the future, or overclock. On PC Partpicker you can filter by EPS power connectors. It's at the bottom, and you should check everything higher than 1x 8-pin

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Laptop:

Lenovo Yoga 7 Air: Ryzen 7840S, 32GiB DDR5

 

Desktop (Old but I never replaced it):

Delidded Core i7 4770K - GTX 1070 ROG Strix - 16GB DDR3 @2000Mhz

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4 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

On PC Partpicker you can filter by EPS power connectors. It's at the bottom, and you should check everything higher than 1x 8-pin

Ah I guess so a "CORSAIR RM Series RM650" would probably be the better choice as it is very similar to the "Corsair RMx (2018) 650" but has that additional pin just in case? I believe I've also seen it in the PSU Tier list here on the board.

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