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alvez

Hello guys,

 

My GPU is going to die soon after 5 years, so I need to purchase a new one considering the specs bellow:

 

CPU: RYZEN 5 3600X

MOBO: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX

RAM: GSKILL TRIDENT Z RGB 3600 CL18

PSU: TX650M CORSAIR

SSD: MX500 + MX100

 

OLD GPU: GIGABYTE GTX 970 G1 GAMING

 

I have been looking at the RX series, more specifically the RX 5700.

 

I dont really care for brands, i want the best bang for the buck! :)

 

Could you provide some advice please? Budget is 370€.

 

 

THANKS!

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2 minutes ago, alvez said:

 

I am a big NVidia fan, I recommend the 1660 Super.

Gaming PC

 

CPU: Ryzen 3700X GPU: EVGA 2060 Super XC Ultra Gaming MB: MSI Prestige X570 Creation 

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x 16GB DDR4-3600 CL16 NVME: Samsung 970 Evo 250GB M.2-2280

PSU: SeaSonic PRIME Gold 1000w Case: Corsair 680X RGB Black

 

NAS/Media Box

CPU: Ryzen 3200G  MB: Gigabyte Aorus B450 Elite

RAM: 16GB (2x 8GB) Corsair LPX DDR4-3000 M.2: WD Blue 500 GB

PSU: Rosewill Photon 850W 80+ Gold Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo

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You could also get a 2060 for about that much new. The 5700 has had lots of issues, from what I have heard.

Gaming PC

 

CPU: Ryzen 3700X GPU: EVGA 2060 Super XC Ultra Gaming MB: MSI Prestige X570 Creation 

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x 16GB DDR4-3600 CL16 NVME: Samsung 970 Evo 250GB M.2-2280

PSU: SeaSonic PRIME Gold 1000w Case: Corsair 680X RGB Black

 

NAS/Media Box

CPU: Ryzen 3200G  MB: Gigabyte Aorus B450 Elite

RAM: 16GB (2x 8GB) Corsair LPX DDR4-3000 M.2: WD Blue 500 GB

PSU: Rosewill Photon 850W 80+ Gold Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo

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4 minutes ago, LaughingHyena said:

I am a big NVidia fan, I recommend the 1660 Super.

I dont mind NVIDIA or AMD really,

 

The important is that it should be  the bang for the buck, i dont really care if one or another brand :)

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 | Gpu: Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 | SSD: Crucial MX100 256 GB | HDD: Samsung 128GB Ram: Kingston 8GB DDR3 1333MHz | 

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Just now, alvez said:

I dont mind NVIDIA or AMD really,

 

The important is that it should be  the bang for the buck, i dont really care if one or another brand :)

Big thing with 5700 is reported driver issues. If you don't mind that, 5700 is not a bad choice. I little less expensive than the 2060, with just about as good performance. 

Gaming PC

 

CPU: Ryzen 3700X GPU: EVGA 2060 Super XC Ultra Gaming MB: MSI Prestige X570 Creation 

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x 16GB DDR4-3600 CL16 NVME: Samsung 970 Evo 250GB M.2-2280

PSU: SeaSonic PRIME Gold 1000w Case: Corsair 680X RGB Black

 

NAS/Media Box

CPU: Ryzen 3200G  MB: Gigabyte Aorus B450 Elite

RAM: 16GB (2x 8GB) Corsair LPX DDR4-3000 M.2: WD Blue 500 GB

PSU: Rosewill Photon 850W 80+ Gold Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo

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3 minutes ago, LaughingHyena said:

Big thing with 5700 is reported driver issues. If you don't mind that, 5700 is not a bad choice. I little less expensive than the 2060, with just about as good performance. 

1st of all thanks!

 

2nd - so you recomended 2 cards:

1660 Super - costs around 270€

- 2060 - costs around 370€

 

Benchmark wise I found the 1660 Super to be par with the 1660 Super, and slightly better.

 

I am not an expert and I am just looking at graphics and scores, could you help here?

 

100€ saved are important if the performance is almost equal!

 

THANKS!

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 | Gpu: Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 | SSD: Crucial MX100 256 GB | HDD: Samsung 128GB Ram: Kingston 8GB DDR3 1333MHz | 

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For the Price cant go wrong with the rx5700 , if you can give it a bit more get the Gigabyte rx 5700xt with 3 fans. Great card and cheap

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3 minutes ago, alvez said:

1st of all thanks!

 

2nd - so you recomended 2 cards:

1660 Super - costs around 270€

- 2060 - costs around 370€

 

Benchmark wise I found the 1660 Super to be par with the 1660 Super, and slightly better.

 

I am not an expert and I am just looking at graphics and scores, could you help here?

 

100€ saved are important if the performance is almost equal!

 

THANKS!

The performance is not really equal. The 2060 is about 20% better than the 1660 Super. If you don't mind spending more, the 2060 is a good choice. If you would prefer to save money, the 1660 Super is probably the best price-per-performance GPU that Nvidia has, and works just fine. I had the 1660 Ti, and I loved it. I could run most games at max settings with no issues.  It's only slightly better than the Super, for much more money, so not really worth it. At that price, you might as well get the 2060. 

Gaming PC

 

CPU: Ryzen 3700X GPU: EVGA 2060 Super XC Ultra Gaming MB: MSI Prestige X570 Creation 

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x 16GB DDR4-3600 CL16 NVME: Samsung 970 Evo 250GB M.2-2280

PSU: SeaSonic PRIME Gold 1000w Case: Corsair 680X RGB Black

 

NAS/Media Box

CPU: Ryzen 3200G  MB: Gigabyte Aorus B450 Elite

RAM: 16GB (2x 8GB) Corsair LPX DDR4-3000 M.2: WD Blue 500 GB

PSU: Rosewill Photon 850W 80+ Gold Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo

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8 minutes ago, Xkillerpn said:

For the Price cant go wrong with the rx5700 , if you can give it a bit more get the Gigabyte rx 5700xt with 3 fans. Great card and cheap

driver problems are a little scary, but if they get fixed soon I dont see a problem tho.

 

The XT was a option, just out of my league for now, cant spend that much.

The 1660 Super is tempting, to be honest!

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 | Gpu: Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 | SSD: Crucial MX100 256 GB | HDD: Samsung 128GB Ram: Kingston 8GB DDR3 1333MHz | 

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4 minutes ago, LaughingHyena said:

The performance is not really equal. The 2060 is about 20% better than the 1660 Super. If you don't mind spending more, the 2060 is a good choice. If you would prefer to save money, the 1660 Super is probably the best price-per-performance GPU that Nvidia has, and works just fine. I had the 1660 Ti, and I loved it. I could run most games at max settings with no issues.  It's only slightly better than the Super, for much more money, so not really worth it. At that price, you might as well get the 2060. 

If we compare the GTX 970 vs the 1660 Super, the 1660 Super is better or equal?

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1 minute ago, alvez said:

If we compare the GTX 970 vs the 1660 Super, the 1660 Super is better or equal?

About 20% better. The 1660 is based on the same Turing micro architecture that the 20 series has, just minus the ray tracing. Also, has 6 GB VRAM, as opposed to the 970's 4 GB.

Gaming PC

 

CPU: Ryzen 3700X GPU: EVGA 2060 Super XC Ultra Gaming MB: MSI Prestige X570 Creation 

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x 16GB DDR4-3600 CL16 NVME: Samsung 970 Evo 250GB M.2-2280

PSU: SeaSonic PRIME Gold 1000w Case: Corsair 680X RGB Black

 

NAS/Media Box

CPU: Ryzen 3200G  MB: Gigabyte Aorus B450 Elite

RAM: 16GB (2x 8GB) Corsair LPX DDR4-3000 M.2: WD Blue 500 GB

PSU: Rosewill Photon 850W 80+ Gold Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo

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7 minutes ago, LaughingHyena said:

About 20% better. The 1660 is based on the same Turing micro architecture that the 20 series has, just minus the ray tracing. Also, has 6 GB VRAM, as opposed to the 970's 4 GB.

As long as I am getting something better than the GTX 970 I am happy.

| Case: Cooler Master Elite 371 | Cpu: i5 4690K @ 4.20 GHz | Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo | Motherboard: MSI Z97 Gaming 3 |

 | Gpu: Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 | SSD: Crucial MX100 256 GB | HDD: Samsung 128GB Ram: Kingston 8GB DDR3 1333MHz | 

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16 minutes ago, alvez said:

If we compare the GTX 970 vs the 1660 Super, the 1660 Super is better or equal?

it's closer to 40% than 20%, the 970 is about equal to the RX 570:

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3 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

it's closer to 40% than 20%, the 970 is about equal to the RX 570:

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Honestly, I will be playing CSGO and COD:MW (2019) and some league of legends, I think I can save some bucks here..

 

EDIT: Regarding the variant, wich should I choose? the MSI Gaming X?

| Case: Cooler Master Elite 371 | Cpu: i5 4690K @ 4.20 GHz | Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo | Motherboard: MSI Z97 Gaming 3 |

 | Gpu: Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 | SSD: Crucial MX100 256 GB | HDD: Samsung 128GB Ram: Kingston 8GB DDR3 1333MHz | 

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1 minute ago, alvez said:

Honestly, I will be playing CSGO and COD:MW (2019) and some league of legends, I think I can save some bucks here..

vega 56 is an option if it's not badly priced in your area.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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6 minutes ago, alvez said:

Honestly, I will be playing CSGO and COD:MW (2019) and some league of legends, I think I can save some bucks here..

 

EDIT: Regarding the variant, wich should I choose? the MSI Gaming X?

I have had some bad experiences with MSI messing up the thermal paste in my GPUs in the past. I am personally a fan of EVGA, as their customer support is fantastic. SC Ultra gaming is probably the best option.

Gaming PC

 

CPU: Ryzen 3700X GPU: EVGA 2060 Super XC Ultra Gaming MB: MSI Prestige X570 Creation 

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x 16GB DDR4-3600 CL16 NVME: Samsung 970 Evo 250GB M.2-2280

PSU: SeaSonic PRIME Gold 1000w Case: Corsair 680X RGB Black

 

NAS/Media Box

CPU: Ryzen 3200G  MB: Gigabyte Aorus B450 Elite

RAM: 16GB (2x 8GB) Corsair LPX DDR4-3000 M.2: WD Blue 500 GB

PSU: Rosewill Photon 850W 80+ Gold Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo

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1 hour ago, alvez said:

driver problems are a little scary, but if they get fixed soon I dont see a problem tho.

 

The XT was a option, just out of my league for now, cant spend that much.

The 1660 Super is tempting, to be honest!

Drivers are fine. Running ati and radeons for years btw having gpus since nvidia 256. Most of the time is user error as they dont clean the systems with ddu.

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You might also consider buying an used 1070 and wait for the new Nvidia Ampere in a couple of months. Performance bump from a 970 is substantial.

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1 hour ago, Xkillerpn said:

Drivers are fine. Running ati and radeons for years btw having gpus since nvidia 256. Most of the time is user error as they dont clean the systems with ddu.

Sincerely I might go the 1660 Super, budget wise and performance wise, and its better than the gtx970 wich was fine for me already

| Case: Cooler Master Elite 371 | Cpu: i5 4690K @ 4.20 GHz | Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo | Motherboard: MSI Z97 Gaming 3 |

 | Gpu: Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 | SSD: Crucial MX100 256 GB | HDD: Samsung 128GB Ram: Kingston 8GB DDR3 1333MHz | 

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4 hours ago, LaughingHyena said:

I have had some bad experiences with MSI messing up the thermal paste in my GPUs in the past. I am personally a fan of EVGA, as their customer support is fantastic. SC Ultra gaming is probably the best option.

 

4 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

vega 56 is an option if it's not badly priced in your area.

 

3 hours ago, Xkillerpn said:

Drivers are fine. Running ati and radeons for years btw having gpus since nvidia 256. Most of the time is user error as they dont clean the systems with ddu.

 

2 hours ago, JoJo_O said:

You might also consider buying an used 1070 and wait for the new Nvidia Ampere in a couple of months. Performance bump from a 970 is substantial.

 

Regarding the brands of the 1660 Super, which should be the best option to go for?

Available at the store:

Asus GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER TUF Gaming X3 OC 6GB
Gigabyte GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER Gaming OC 6G
ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER AMP 6GB GD6
MSI GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER GAMING X 6G

 

could you provide a little more help?

 

THANKS!

| Case: Cooler Master Elite 371 | Cpu: i5 4690K @ 4.20 GHz | Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo | Motherboard: MSI Z97 Gaming 3 |

 | Gpu: Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 | SSD: Crucial MX100 256 GB | HDD: Samsung 128GB Ram: Kingston 8GB DDR3 1333MHz | 

| Screen: Benq XL2411Z | Mouse: Logitech G 403 | Mousepad: SteelSeries QcK+ NiP Edition | Keyboard: Steelseries 6GV2 | Headset: Kingston Hyper X Cloud |

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17 hours ago, alvez said:

 

 

 

 

Regarding the brands of the 1660 Super, which should be the best option to go for?

Available at the store:

Asus GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER TUF Gaming X3 OC 6GB
Gigabyte GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER Gaming OC 6G
ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER AMP 6GB GD6
MSI GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER GAMING X 6G

 

could you provide a little more help?

 

THANKS!

Asus and Gigabyte make pretty good cards. I have had bad experiences with MSI's GPUs, but not everyone has. Never used ZOTAC, so have no clue there.

Gaming PC

 

CPU: Ryzen 3700X GPU: EVGA 2060 Super XC Ultra Gaming MB: MSI Prestige X570 Creation 

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x 16GB DDR4-3600 CL16 NVME: Samsung 970 Evo 250GB M.2-2280

PSU: SeaSonic PRIME Gold 1000w Case: Corsair 680X RGB Black

 

NAS/Media Box

CPU: Ryzen 3200G  MB: Gigabyte Aorus B450 Elite

RAM: 16GB (2x 8GB) Corsair LPX DDR4-3000 M.2: WD Blue 500 GB

PSU: Rosewill Photon 850W 80+ Gold Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo

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