GHETTO PC BUILD

[Seanflaz1998]

Hello guys,

Im looking to upgrade my aio to have a external gpu via a pcie riser/extender using either m.2 or a pci port (I know risky) .
This is due to the fact I have very limited cash at the moment and want to get back into pc gaming, i have owed various high end rigs in the past, but simply not enough cash to build an entire rig at this point,

I know ill run into various problems such as bottlenecking (especially if i use the old pci interface) but still roughly 75% of the gpu will still be utilized, as well as the act ill have to unplug any existing components such as wifi cards, this is not a problem for me as i use ethernet anyway. as well as needing to find power for the card im open to suggestions on how to do that xD
This is the board i have : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-Inspiron-23-5348-AIO-Intel-Motherboard-s115X-IPPLP-RH-TH-XHYJF-/151827014476
I have a i3 4170 and 8gb ram also. What are my options with the motherboard, it says in the manual there is a m.2 port but yet to find it. If you spot one let me know because I know m.2 is just as fast as thunderbolt.

I Figure all in I can get the parts on the cheap for 150 quid tops accounting for a ssd the riser and a 1050ti and hoping the upgrades will make this pc be able to run fluently on games.

If somebody could provide their insight on this that would be awesome,
thanks team.

 

[mr cheese]

2 minutes ago, Seanflaz1998 said:

as well as needing to find power for the card im open to suggestions on how to do that

I'd say that looks like a power plug

Honestly I have little idea what this plug really is but it looks like it could be a standard CPU power plug? You should check and see if there's any other better angles to look at.

6 minutes ago, Seanflaz1998 said:

it says in the manual there is a m.2 port but yet to find it.

I couldn't find it, however

there are adapters that convert this WiFi slot PCIe, so if you googled around  you could find one of those and buy it, I don't recall them being cheap tho

[mr cheese]

11 minutes ago, DaJakerBoss said:

adapters that convert this WiFi slot PCIe

This is the closest I could find, unfortunately. Looks to be an NGFF slot

https://www.amazon.com/EXPLOMOS-NGFF-Adapter-Power-Cable/dp/B074Z5YKXJ

 

Going off of this imgur guide, it looks like you can get an extender that widens the PCIe plug and allows for a full PCIe slot for a 1050TI
https://imgur.com/a/JHoIy

 

Here's that same riser

https://www.amazon.com/Express-Female-Riser-Mining-Cable/dp/B00CJE0KJ6/

[Seanflaz1998]

41 minutes ago, DaJakerBoss said:

This is the closest I could find, unfortunately. Looks to be an NGFF slot

https://www.amazon.com/EXPLOMOS-NGFF-Adapter-Power-Cable/dp/B074Z5YKXJ

 

Going off of this imgur guide, it looks like you can get an extender that widens the PCIe plug and allows for a full PCIe slot for a 1050TI
https://imgur.com/a/JHoIy

 

Here's that same riser

https://www.amazon.com/Express-Female-Riser-Mining-Cable/dp/B00CJE0KJ6/

Yeah SPOT ON man thanks a lot, deffo an option, Take a look at this. what do you think?

 

https://www.banggood.com/NGFF-Version-V8_0-EXP-GDC-Beast-Laptop-External-Independent-Video-Card-Dock-p-1009978.html?cur_warehouse=CN

 

that's a complete kit, one LTT used in one of his videos (I think) but didn't go ahead with it bc most people use wifi etc. but as mentioned earlier this isn't a problem for me. 

He got pretty awesome results too, it outperformed most gpu boxes on the market proving to be faster than thunderbolt. 

ofc I would need a old psu for this option but possibly the easiest way to go about this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mr cheese]

21 minutes ago, Seanflaz1998 said:

Yeah SPOT ON man thanks a lot, deffo an option, Take a look at this. what do you think?

 

https://www.banggood.com/NGFF-Version-V8_0-EXP-GDC-Beast-Laptop-External-Independent-Video-Card-Dock-p-1009978.html?cur_warehouse=CN

 

that's a complete kit, one LTT used in one of his videos (I think) but didn't go ahead with it bc most people use wifi etc. but as mentioned earlier this isn't a problem for me. 

He got pretty awesome results too, it outperformed most gpu boxes on the market proving to be faster than thunderbolt. 

ofc I would need a old psu for this option but possibly the easiest way to go about this.

That's a different key from the looks of it, I don't think it would work here, see the picture i posted

[Seanflaz1998]

Hi im converting my AIO into a gaming maching (Not reccomended i know lol, just very budget restricted for this build)

 

Was wondering what you guys think of this NGFF soloution? 

 

This is my motherboard -  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-Inspiron-23-5348-AIO-Intel-Motherboard-s115X-IPPLP-RH-TH-XHYJF-/151827014476

 

This is the solution - https://www.banggood.com/NGFF-Version-V8_0-EXP-GDC-Beast-Laptop-External-Independent-Video-Card-Dock-p-1009978.html?cur_warehouse=CN

 

This is something that I read has been around for some time and is lacking support but is meant to work rather well, I mean how hard can it be to set up? 

 

What do you guys think?

 

[Kilrah]

There does not seem to be a PCIe m.2 slot on this board.

[Seanflaz1998]

Just now, Kilrah said:

There does not seem to be a PCIe m.2 slot on this board.

See where the wifi card is seated. NGF wifi. I run ethernet anyway so no need for the wif

[Kilrah]

There are lots of variants of NGFF keying. Typically those meant for wifi cards do not have PCIe connections.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B43G7nfpLD1ORFBhRUxycWM2a1k

 

Need to make sure of what's on both devices.

[Seanflaz1998]

4 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

There are lots of variants of NGFF keying. Typically those meant for wifi cards do not have PCIe connections.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B43G7nfpLD1ORFBhRUxycWM2a1k

 

Need to make sure of what's on both devices.

Yeah I see, if I remove the wifi card that's in the slot this will tell me what keying my board uses I suppose? also if its the wrong keying could I use an adapter there seems to be a few on the market, this is turning out to be a headache xD!

[Kilrah]

You'll need to count pins and see what key it is yes. No adapters, different keys = different signals.

https://www.atpinc.com/blog/what-is-m.2-M-B-BM-key-socket-3

 

But then the Chinese thing doesn't even say what it needs, and what's on the photo looks non-standard, so...

[Seanflaz1998]

Rodger that, This guy done a video on this set up ive just come across it, 

Feel ike this aio is just let down so badly by the lack of a decent gpu! 

 

Its got decent specs apart from the intel hd gpu

 

 

[Kilrah]

OK, video shows it's A+E key, so it might be OK, but you must really check your mobo becasue B tends to be more common. 

Both A and E only have a PCIe x2 link, so anything beyond entry level GPU won't be worth it.

[Seanflaz1998]

18 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

OK, video shows it's A+E key, so it might be OK, but you must really check your mobo becasue B tends to be more common. 

Both A and E only have a PCIe x2 link, so anything beyond entry level GPU won't be worth it.

Thanks dude nice spot,

What would you class as a entry level gpu?  

Like a low end gaming card such as a 750ti/950ti/1030 etc? 

Maybe even a r9 390?

[Herman Mcpootis]

probably better off just looking for a used prebuilt and GPU instead of going through all that.

[Herman Mcpootis]

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