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Today I was doing a bit of software maintenance on my pc and decided to move a lot of files and programs from my otherwise crowded SSD to my larger HDD, freeing up around 80GB on the SSD, out of 223GB in total. Afterwards, I decided to do a timing on total boot time. I did know it was below 30s, but I wanted an exact time.

 

What happened was something else though: the PC went just fine through the POST screen as usual, but it took an awful lot of time to get through the windows boot screen, like 4 minutes. It wasn't like it froze up, the wheel just kept spinning. After a few boot and shutdown cycles, it slowed down further to the point that windows had difficulties loading up things like the taskbar.

 

I tried to do some research on google, but nothing really matched my situation. I tried stuff like changing the pagefile and stuff, maybe that was somehow now an issue since I went from literally having 2GB of space to around 80-90GB. But that did nothing.

 

Then I shut down the pc, let it cool off for 10 minutes and rebooted. Boot time was back to normal, a solid 26 seconds.

 

I was wondering why this happened. Most of the parts are well ventilated, The CPU is sitting at around 25°C at idle, the GPU at 34°C. Pretty much all the components at the front of the motherboard have excellent temperatures.

 

Then it occured to me that the boot ssd sits at the rear of the motherboard (attached to those mounts specifically made in the case). Now at that place there's no ventilation happening at all, and airflow is pretty restrictive. Here is an image:

 

SSD.jpg

 

Is it possible due me clearing up storage space and the fact the SSD is sitting in a very closed off position, the SSD actually overheated? And if so, what can I do regarding its position there? I don't really have a lot of room at the front anymore to tuck it away cleanly. Is something like thermal pads an option?

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Is that the one with all the LED lights on it?

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23 minutes ago, nick name said:

Is that the one with all the LED lights on it?

No, it is the hyperx ssd on the bottom right.

 

Edit: sorry I did not understand your question at first. Answer is still no; it's the hyperx savage version, which does not have the leds.

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My guess is the empty space allows it to create SLC cache so it's trying to do so, but you're constantly throwing work at it so it lags.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

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Desktop benching:

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SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

My guess is the empty space allows it to create SLC cache so it's trying to do so, but you're constantly throwing work at it so it lags.

While i can't exclude It fully, I have to doubt this:

-I did the first reboot roughly an hour after I completed clearing up storage

-booting became progressively slower between reboots, which followed rather closely on another (try solution, reboot, try solution, reboot, etc)

-It went back to normal after a 10minute cooldown.

 

My impression, and this could be wrong, is that it is an overheating issue. Again, I could be wrong. It might be the slc cache, but I don't see causality.

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19 minutes ago, Turbof1 said:

is that it is an overheating issue

could be, the Kingston RGB ones have a tendency to do that (and it was reported as so). I didnt realize yours is the RGB model though

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Isn't those RGB SSD always tend to overheat.  I heard that JayTwoCentz said that his RGB SSD was getting way too hot.  Thank god I use an Samsung EVO 850 500 GB SSD and it doesn't use and RGBs.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnST5rA64Oc

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

 I didnt realize yours is the RGB model though

It is not. I got a little bit confused due 'nick name' asking me this and I didn't know Kingston actually build one with RGB. So this is NOT the rgb version! It is the hyperx savage ssd:

Kingston-HyperX-Savage-240GB-Main.jpg

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Just now, CalintzJerevinan said:

Isn't those RGB SSD always tend to overheat.  I heard that JayTwoCentz said that his RGB SSD was getting way too hot.  Thank god I use an Samsung EVO 850 500 GB SSD and it doesn't use and RGBs.

Same answer: it is not the rgb version here. It has no leds.

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Just now, CalintzJerevinan said:

? Sorry I still got a hangover...from last night.

Not a problem, and you are not the only one. I just want to avoid misconceptions.

 

For the record, I have this build for like half a year now and this was the first time I ran into this issue. Normally the pc only gets booted in a "cool" (room temperature) state, and from the few times I had to reboot due whatever reason I never had this. I also don't think I will run often into this as I suspect it is a consequence of 'writing' (it clears the blocks compared to a hdd marking the block for writing over it) a lot of sectors in a short amount of time. However, I also feel this shows the heat dissipation of the ssd is very poor.

 

So would a thermal pad between the ssd and the sidepanel help in this regard?

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