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Latency - Reset Issue

The problem appears, at least i assume, when i pay video games and browsing the web, like youtube, etc... The problem to appear may vary, it can appear in an hour or two, it can in a day or two or even in a week, depends on how much I'm using computer i think.  How I know when the reset will take place? I can hear crackling sounds in headsets or speakers 2-5-10 seconds before the reset takes place. The time of how soon it resets depends on how high the latency is at that given moment. I also see the latency spiking with DPCLAT program.  The latency has to spike over 7000-8000qs or more for reset to take place. 

 

When I built up the computer it didn't have those issues. Issue started appearing somewhere in mid OCT. 

I reinstalled GPU drivers (DDU), Sound card's (realtek - onboard) drivers, Ethernet drivers and it didn't help. I updated the chipset, also didn't help. Im running on Windows 10 latest updates, always. Last update of BIOS was made in mid SEP, 2019. ver. 1816. MOBO is ASUS B450 TUF PRO GAMING. Since then I did not want to Flash my BIOS, because of the random spikes in latency which causes random resets. 

 

If anyone is thinking that it is the CPU who is overheating, it is not. In some cases if i turn off the game and the browser -chrome and if the latency is not too high and persistent it may lower its self to a normal state at around 1000qs. 

2 days in a row i left computer to run nothing at night and when i woke up the highest latency recorded was 2200qs~ 

 

CPU: Ryzen 3600

GPU: GTX 1070 

Headsets: Steelseries Arctis 7 wireless

RAM: Patriot Viper 16GB 3733MHz 

PSU: BIT FENIX Whisper 650W 

 

I really don't know what could be the cause, any idea is welcoming. 

 

 

 

 

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DPC Latency Checker is not compatible for Windows 10. Use LatencyMon instead. 

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Why wouldn't it be? it works for me, and it is accurate. 

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On 12/12/2019 at 12:54 PM, NXK said:

Why wouldn't it be? it works for me, and it is accurate. 

Because the dev said so? You know the program more than the dev themself? ?‍♂️
Windows 8 and 10 use similar kernel timer btw. 

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Windows 8 Compatibility: The DPC latency utility runs on Windows 8 but does not show correct values. The output suggests that the Windows 8 kernel performs badly and introduces a constant latency of one millisecond, which is not the case in practice. DPCs in the Windows 8 kernel behave identical to Windows 7. The utility produces incorrect results because the implementation of kernel timers has changed in Windows 8, which causes a side effect with the measuring algorithm used by the utility. Thesycon is working on a new version of the DPC latency utility and will make it available on this site as soon as it is finished.

https://www.thesycon.de/eng/latency_check.shtml

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userbenchmark has ram latency tester too

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

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On 12/13/2019 at 8:06 AM, xAcid9 said:

Because the dev said so? You know the program more than the dev themself? ?‍♂️
Windows 8 and 10 use similar kernel timer btw. 

https://www.thesycon.de/eng/latency_check.shtml

Okay, but it still shows the exact moment something goes wrong, maybe it is not as accurate as other programs but does what it was designed to do. at least to here we can both agree? 

 

Anyway I was thinking if it was possible if perhaps a freesync may be a problem with nvidia's gpu, I've turned off freesync on monitor so let's see how it goes. 

 

Also for gpu drivers it showed to around a middle. 

the one with red line is freshly taken where no issues are present at that given moment. 2nd one was taken shot of right before the reset. 

Both are different shots of a different thing

 

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3 hours ago, NXK said:

Okay, but it still shows the exact moment something goes wrong, maybe it is not as accurate as other programs but does what it was designed to do. at least to here we can both agree? 

 

Anyway I was thinking if it was possible if perhaps a freesync may be a problem with nvidia's gpu, I've turned off freesync on monitor so let's see how it goes. 

 

Also for gpu drivers it showed to around a middle. 

the one with red line is freshly taken where no issues are present at that given moment. 2nd one was taken shot of right before the reset. 

Both are different shots of a different thing

On totally normal PC it will show high latency so that will be misleading, but let just agree to disagree. 

 

Check drivers tab and sort from highest to lowest on ISR count and DPC count to check which drivers having problem with latency. 

Also open and elevated cmd prompt and run

VERIFIER /RESET

Just in case.

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12 hours ago, xAcid9 said:

On totally normal PC it will show high latency so that will be misleading, but let just agree to disagree. 

 

Check drivers tab and sort from highest to lowest on ISR count and DPC count to check which drivers having problem with latency. 

Also open and elevated cmd prompt and run


VERIFIER /RESET

Just in case.

okay will try out, will try on ideal for some time and while gaming for the exact same time

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0.2 is while gaming in 30min 

and the ones without 2.0 are ideal for 30min 

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ideal~ listening to YT

1. DPC

2. Highest Exe. 

3. ISR 

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While gaming 

sorted;: 

1. is Highest Execution time

2. ISR Count

last one is DPC Latency 

 

Everything's happening in approx 30min time after lunching anything 

gottta thing it dxgkrnl $=

what should i do now? 

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image.png.1a197885312ea53a9dd65780c094a208.pngHope this was a problem let's see

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Okay found a problem causing it -or at least ik where to look for 

I went to msconfig and disabled everything that wasn't microsoft services and now works normally again for what it could cause idk i must take time and go through it, but it is quite time consuming process to begin with 

 

so one of those listed down here is the trouble maker 

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