Upgrading question. Need help deciding!

[Coala]

Hello everyone!

 

I'm in a bit of a pickle here. I'm upgrading my pc config with CPU, mobo and ram.

I noticed asus and intel have "cashback" sale thing going on, so, I went a head and ordered a bundle. But now I feel like I made a hasty decision.

 

So my question is should I go with what I ordered or should I send them back, get my money and order the 2nd option.

 

Bundles:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$217.99 @ Walmart
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$206.98 @ Newegg
Memory	Kingston HyperX Fury RGB 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$65.04 @ Amazon
Memory	Kingston HyperX Fury RGB 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$65.04 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$555.05
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-23 11:04 EST-0500

RAM is not the RGB one.

 

That bundle cost about 550euros and with the cashback I get 90 euros back. So in the end the total cost was 460 euros.

 

Now the config I really want is:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard	$149.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$67.98 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$431.97
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$411.97
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-23 11:01 EST-0500

This bundle cost the same amount 550 euros, BUT I don't get the 90 euros cashback.

 

So what should I do? I'm here because I can't decide if i should just go with what I ordered already or should I go with AMD since it looks like that option is more upgradable in the future. Is Intel worth it? Is AMD worth it?

[WickedStarfish]

15 minutes ago, Coala said:

So what should I do? I'm here because I can't decide if i should just go with what I ordered already or should I go with AMD since it looks like that option is more upgradable in the future. Is Intel worth it? Is AMD worth it?

I can already imagine what the comments section will be, in all honesty it depends on the main goal of the computer, if it is for gaming go the intel, if it is for photoshop/video rendering go amd, if you want to build it as soon as possible go the intel, if you dont mind the wait go the cheaper option.

it all depends on your needs and wants

i really wanted a top end intel processor (1151 socket) and got the i9 because i felt that i would enjoy the computer a little more even though i spent a bit extra money going the i9 than going a 3700x. same as the ram i chose, i really wanted 32gb of flashy ram, so i spent the extra $100 to get 32gb over 16gb and rgb

[Mister Woof]

Long time Intel fan here. Skip anything without hyperthreading, and skip anything with less than 8 cores.

 

You will probably be fine with 6 and SMT, but people rarely complain about having too much cpu but often complain about not having enough.

 

Obviously not advocating you getting a 3900x or something ridiculous. But 8/16 is the standard.

[dizmo]

I'd go with the Ryzen set up.

If 90 Euro is a lot to you though, go with the Intel set up. You'll still get a great experience.

 

10 minutes ago, WickedStarfish said:

I can already imagine what the comments section will be, in all honesty it depends on the main goal of the computer, if it is for gaming go the intel, if it is for photoshop/video rendering go amd, if you want to build it as soon as possible go the intel, if you dont mind the wait go the cheaper option.

it all depends on your needs and wants

i really wanted a top end intel processor (1151 socket) and got the i9 because i felt that i would enjoy the computer a little more even though i spent a bit extra money going the i9 than going a 3700x. same as the ram i chose, i really wanted 32gb of flashy ram, so i spent the extra $100 to get 32gb over 16gb and rgb

"Intel is for gaming" is no longer true in the lower tiers, they only really make sense in the absolute upper echelon.

The Ryzen chip will perform better.

[Coala]

Thanks for the replys!

 

At the moment Intel bundle is going to be cheaper, because I get that 90 euros back. I am on a budget so the cheaper option is always more compelling.

 

So in a nutshell: Intel bundle = 460e vs. AMD bundle = 550e. Intel wins here.

 

One more question for you guys is: what about the RAM? Kingston hyperx vs. Corsair vengeance

[Mister Woof]

1 minute ago, Coala said:

Thanks for the replys!

 

At the moment Intel bundle is going to be cheaper, because I get that 90 euros back. I am on a budget so the cheaper option is always more compelling.

 

So in a nutshell: Intel bundle = 460e vs. AMD bundle = 550e. Intel wins here.

 

One more question for you guys is: what about the RAM? Kingston hyperx vs. Corsair vengeance

if you're using intel, pick the 3200 kit you like the looks of best. doesn't matter that much overall. i prefer corsair lpx because its lower profile.

[Coala]

Does anyone know are there coming new cpus next year? And will they be on same socket (Intel LGA1151 and AMD AM4)?

 

Was just thinking which config is better for future upgrades. Obviously we cannot see the future, but do we have any information about the plans of intel or amd?

[WickedStarfish]

40 minutes ago, dizmo said:

"Intel is for gaming" is no longer true in the lower tiers, they only really make sense in the absolute upper echelon.

The Ryzen chip will perform better.

The post creator did not say which gpu it was being paired with. Paired with a 2060 super the 9600k will preform better, paired with a 1080ti the 9600k will preform better, or if it was a weird build when he/she set it up, it could have 2 titan x gpu's in sli 

But yeah paired with a Rx 570/1050 it wouldn't really make much of a difference, and playing games that will favour the hyperthreading over the speed will make the amd more favourable

 

He could even use the extra 90e to buy a high end air cooler and achieve a good oc on the 9600k 

[Coala]

I have made a plan: I have 14days to return the Intel bundle. So, I will wait till next friday when it's black friday and check the prizes again on both configs. And make my decision then, based on "bang for the buck".

[RonnieOP]

If budget is an issue and your leaning towards the amd system you could knock off about $70 by going with a b450 board instead of an x570. 

 

So itll only be $20 more expensive without the cashback. And i cant really think of a reason to go x570 on this build.

[Coala]

1 hour ago, RonnieOP said:

If budget is an issue and your leaning towards the amd system you could knock off about $70 by going with a b450 board instead of an x570. 

 

So itll only be $20 more expensive without the cashback. And i cant really think of a reason to go x570 on this build.

Why wouldn't I go with x570? But if that's the case, would this config be better for budget:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$114.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$76.98 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$385.97
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-23 14:21 EST-0500

 

[Mister Woof]

2 hours ago, Coala said:

Does anyone know are there coming new cpus next year? And will they be on same socket (Intel LGA1151 and AMD AM4)?

 

Was just thinking which config is better for future upgrades. Obviously we cannot see the future, but do we have any information about the plans of intel or amd?

There's always new chips on the horizon. 

 

Intel may still be 1151, but i would not count on it being compatible with 300 series boards either way.

 

AM4 is nearing EOL. Zen 3 might work on it officially, but it may not really be supported in practice. Or they may go to a different platform altogether.

[Coala]

5 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

There's always new chips on the horizon. 

 

Intel may still be 1151, but i would not count on it being compatible with 300 series boards either way.

 

AM4 is nearing EOL. Zen 3 might work on it officially, but it may not really be supported in practice. Or they may go to a different platform altogether.

Keeping that in mind I might be better of with config such as this:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$114.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$76.98 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$385.97
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-23 15:03 EST-0500

 

This is really budget friendly and I save a good amount of money for new GPU.

 

[RonnieOP]

56 minutes ago, Coala said:

Why wouldn't I go with x570? But if that's the case, would this config be better for budget:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$114.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$76.98 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$385.97
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-23 14:21 EST-0500

 

You wouldnt go x570 because it offers basically nothing for a 3600. Unless your doing something that needs pcie 4.0 storage speeds it wont add anything of value.

 

You can find b450 matx boards on amazon starting from $75 last i checked.

[Coala]

Alrighty. Thank you all for replys!