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[dragonheals12]

I don't really need an upgrade or a new computer, I just love tinkering with hardware. I'm looking at buying some bits at a time, starting with upgrading my current computer, with the end goal of having a new PC in a year or so. I'll start with the graphic's card, move up to the CPU, RAM, and motherboard, then buy hard drives, a Windows OS, case, and power supply last. 

 

Some of this was brought on by the impact AMD has had on the CPU market, and some of it is just. I really love computers and fancy hardware looks great. I'm disabled, so I don't want to go full liquid cooling in case I have a flare and can't maintain it, but I do love water cooling and have looked at getting some AIO parts, including a graphic's card. I'm a little worried that my choice of a 360 radiator and the hybrid graphic's card will result in some issues with the case I've picked out, but it's hard for me to say based on reviews. 

 

I imagine there's probably very little point to getting a hybrid cooled GPU unless I'm overclocking, but they're reasonable enough in price that I want one just to be neat. I guess the reason for posting is partially because I want to share, and partially that I have some questions. 

 

Should I stick with the hybrid graphic's card, or go with something with a better price to performance? Will it fit in my case? Is the build practical, and did I miss anything with the motherboard? How risky would overclocking be on a hybrid card? I know almost nothing, are there resources I should look at before I do anything? I don't really have a budget, other than I probably wouldn't want to spend more than 800 dollars on an individual part, but even there I'm relatively flexible. The king pin 2080 ti cards are... Very fancy, and definitely not something I feel a strong need to own at like. 1500 dollars, for instance. Especially since I am very far from an extreme overclocker. I'm aiming for the Glow Up budget, from the gaming at different budgets, give or take a few hundred dollars. 

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.79 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$139.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	ASRock B450M/AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$84.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$192.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$99.99 @ B&H
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC HYBRID GAMING Video Card	$573.98 @ Newegg
Case	Lian Li LANCOOL ONE Digital ATX Mid Tower Case	$98.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair SF 600 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply	$139.00 @ Amazon
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$99.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor	AOC CQ27G1 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor	$249.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1914.40
	Mail-in rebates	-$40.00
	Total	$1874.40
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-11 01:55 EDT-0400

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

Why do you have a 360mm AIO with a low-end board and 3600? A cheap $40 air cooler is enough.

[Meganter]

5 minutes ago, dragonheals12 said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.79 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$139.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	ASRock B450M/AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$84.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$192.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$99.99 @ B&H
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC HYBRID GAMING Video Card	$573.98 @ Newegg
Case	Lian Li LANCOOL ONE Digital ATX Mid Tower Case	$98.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair SF 600 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply	$139.00 @ Amazon
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$99.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor	AOC CQ27G1 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor	$249.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1914.40
	Mail-in rebates	-$40.00
	Total	$1874.40
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-11 01:55 EDT-0400

 

 

Hello,

 

You could get a MSI B450 motherboard instead (tomahawk or A-PRO).

AIO cooler is meh especially for a 3600.

At the same price you can get 3600mhz ram.

The 5700XT will perform better for less.

The case doesn't have a nice airflow.

SF PSU why not but a "normal" one will be cheaper for the same efficiency.

You can get Windows 10 for 5$ on Ebay.

 

[LukeSavenije]

3 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

Why do you have a 360mm AIO with a low-end board and 3600? A cheap $40 air cooler is enough.

like this

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.79 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	Thermalright Macho Direct 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler	$42.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$69.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	OLOy WarHawk RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$62.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$99.99 @ B&H
Video Card	ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB CHALLENGER D OC Video Card	$399.99 @ Newegg
Case	Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	FSP Group Hydro PTM 650 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$119.99 @ Amazon
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$99.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor	AOC CQ27G1 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor	$249.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1440.50
	Mail-in rebates	-$30.00
	Total	$1410.50
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-11 02:04 EDT-0400

saves you a lot of money for about the same performance

[Herman Mcpootis]

4 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

like this

At that point i'd spend a bit more on a B450-A pro but its fine otherwise

[dragonheals12]

I really like water cooling, and wanted to give myself room to overclock if I wanted to tinker. I also have some concerns about the longevity of the AMD processors, and want to give it good cooling to try and guard against that. It's also pretty, and is lower maintenance than a full custom loop. The main reason I went with the processor that I did is that upgrading for double the price doesn't really add much to the gaming experience, and that's mostly what I'm aiming for. Also going with AMD to give me some room to grow, so I could potentially upgrade the processor later without necessarily having to go through the whole bit of upgrading, and having a bigger cooler upfront would let me do that as well.3

 

I definitely want to take a look at the better motherboard, for sure, especially if I could get slightly faster RAM. I've heard (and this might be incorrect because I don't even remember where I heard it) that 3200 was about the point of diminishing returns. 

 

I know the case doesn't have the best airflow, I did watch the Gamer's Nexus review, I'm just picky about the style and I'm willing to deal with a little less airflow for something that looks the way I want it to. That's... another reason for the overkill water cooling.

[LukeSavenije]

4 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

At that point i'd spend a bit more on a B450-A pro but its fine otherwise

touche

 

but not necessary for a 3600

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 minutes ago, dragonheals12 said:

I really like water cooling, and wanted to give myself room to overclock if I wanted to tinker. I also have some concerns about the longevity of the AMD processors, and want to give it good cooling to try and guard against that. It's also pretty, and is lower maintenance than a full custom loop. The main reason I went with the processor that I did is that upgrading for double the price doesn't really add much to the gaming experience, and that's mostly what I'm aiming for. Also going with AMD to give me some room to grow, so I could potentially upgrade the processor later without necessarily having to go through the whole bit of upgrading, and having a bigger cooler upfront would let me do that as well.3

AMD's cpus don't run that hot, even a cheap air cooler can still let it overclock without getting near high temps.

[Meganter]

1 minute ago, dragonheals12 said:

I really like water cooling, and wanted to give myself room to overclock if I wanted to tinker. I also have some concerns about the longevity of the AMD processors, and want to give it good cooling to try and guard against that. It's also pretty, and is lower maintenance than a full custom loop. The main reason I went with the processor that I did is that upgrading for double the price doesn't really add much to the gaming experience, and that's mostly what I'm aiming for. Also going with AMD to give me some room to grow, so I could potentially upgrade the processor later without necessarily having to go through the whole bit of upgrading, and having a bigger cooler upfront would let me do that as well.3

 

I definitely want to take a look at the better motherboard, for sure, especially if I could get slightly faster RAM. I've heard (and this might be incorrect because I don't even remember where I heard it) that 3200 was about the point of diminishing returns. 

 

I know the case doesn't have the best airflow, I did watch the Gamer's Nexus review, I'm just picky about the style and I'm willing to deal with a little less airflow for something that looks the way I want it to. That's... another reason for the overkill water cooling.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.79 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler	$39.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	$95.69 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$84.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$99.99 @ B&H
Video Card	PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Red Devil Video Card	$439.99 @ Amazon
Case	Fractal Design Define C TG ATX Mid Tower Case	$98.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ Amazon
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$99.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor	AOC CQ27G1 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor	$249.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1529.30
	Mail-in rebates	-$25.00
	Total	$1504.30
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-11 02:14 EDT-0400

 

No front RGB on the case but it has decent airflow and good quality overall plus ease of use.

 

@LukeSavenije did a good build too.

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

touche

 

but not necessary for a 3600

Yeah, but it helps if he wants to oc a more power hungry CPU in the future.

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Plouffe said:

CPU Cooler ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler $39.99 @

swap this with a macho direct, and I'm fully satisfied with what you got there

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Herman Mcpootis said:

Yeah, but it helps if he wants to oc a more power hungry CPU in the future.

fully aware

[Meganter]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

swap this with a macho direct, and I'm fully satisfied with what you got there

 

Noted  

[dragonheals12]

I definitely appreciate the effort of the builds, I'm mostly looking for something that will make me feel like I have a custom loop, without having to worry about the maintenance. Am I way undershooting for the processor? Should I get a higher end one? I'm looking for gaming, but I do enjoy third gen Ryzen, would Intel be the better bet for what I'm aiming for? 

[Bananasplit_00]

8 minutes ago, dragonheals12 said:

I definitely appreciate the effort of the builds, I'm mostly looking for something that will make me feel like I have a custom loop, without having to worry about the maintenance. Am I way undershooting for the processor? Should I get a higher end one? I'm looking for gaming, but I do enjoy third gen Ryzen, would Intel be the better bet for what I'm aiming for? 

Go for a 240mm AIO if it has to be an AIO, a 360 is so ultra overkill and thrown away money that could be spent on a good motherboard. The CPU wont be any happier with a 360 than a 240 and the cooler is going to have to be replaced at the same time.