Underclocking Ryzen 5 3600(x)

[mbnq]

Hey!

 

Recently I bought these things:

• X570 AORUS ELITE (latest bios - F5a)
• Ryzen 5 3600X
• 2 x Kingston HyperX 3200Mhz 16GB

To replace my skylake platform.

What left is:

• few sata ssds
• few hdds
• 500GB m.2 pcie
• BeQuiet Straight Power 10
• 5U Rack case with 120mm intake and 2x80mm bequiet fans
• Gigabyte RTX 2070 OC 

 

My plan was to not oc, stay with stock settings, use stock, same I was using on my Intel 6700 and just have fun.

It didn't happen. 

Running this gen 3 Ryzen on stock cooler was a disaster, so I've bought rated 125TDP Pure Rock Slim by, ofc, bequiet (with Thermal Grizzly) and... it didn't really help.

60C on iddle, up to 75 on stress and all fans spinning like a helicopter.

 

I decided to return it to the shop and I've bought 3600 (non-x).

The thing is... it's still almost the same. Maybe a little bit better.

So... I've downloaded Ryzen Master and created 2 profiles

1. default settings

 

 

2. Super Silent which means:

• downclock to 3,3Ghz
• undervolt to 1,18V

Second profile works pretty nice for playing world of warships or other games (ultra, 1440p), also browsing the net and generic stuff works just fine with pretty nice temps: ~40C iddle, up to ~60C on load.

 

 

After all my primary question is:

IS THIS SAFE?

 

And any news about amd fixing those stock temps?

 

ps. sorry for my english, I'm not native.

 

[Streetguru]

4 minutes ago, mbnq said:

5U Rack case with 120mm intake and 2x80mm bequiet fans

Im going to assume that is part of your problem, not sure how well it's getting airflow in the first place with your case, what's the whole thing look like?

[Xkillerpn]

I think that the mounting is not correct. 60c idle is just wrong. 

[mbnq]

Waiting for Zalman Z9 NEO to try if case is the thing.

 

edit: anyway i7-6700 was working ice cold in this case. 65C after 45minutes of full load.

Edited September 18, 2019 by mbnq
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[brucechow]

I think the high idle temps is because the cooler is sucking hot air from gpu, I have Ryzen 2600x, 2700 and 3600 and they usually idles around 15c hotter than ambient on silent fan curve. Usually the gpu settles at around 50c if you didn’t messed with fan curve. So 60c for idle is normal.

Stress testing my 3600 with Noctua u12s with 2 fans brings me to 72c here. 

 

I think you are pretty safe there, even though your idle is high, your peak sustained temps are far lower from max safe temperatures.. If it bothers you that much, maybe rotate your cooler 90•

[caldrin]

When you say 60c at idle was it really idle.. these CPus work like they are on a knife edge the slightest little app can kick in one of the cores and the the temp can jump up.. got to leave it for some time literally doing nothing to get proper idle.. The latest updates do help a bit with this as long as you make sure you are on the AMD balanced power plan. 

Hitting 75ish on full load seems about right really.. but yeah that case does not look like it has nice airflow.. so surprised the temps are even that good

[mbnq]

3 hours ago, brucechow said:

(...) If it bothers you that much, maybe rotate your cooler 90•

I can't, it can be mounted only like this or 180 aroud.

 

I still don't know if underclocking and undervolting doesn't degrade the cpu guys 

[mbnq]

A little update. So, it looks like this now. Now iddling at ~44C (18C ambient), but still very loud when boosting. Waiting for pure rock (big one).

(edit: also updated gpu bios, lower clocks now)

 

 

[mbnq]

Ok, so I've installed Pure Rock and it's a little bit better. I think it's quite tolerably now. 

 

Far away from intel ice cold and dead silence, but... usable.

 

From my experience I know it will be even more better when the solvent will evaporate from the thermal compound after few hours.

[mbnq]

Ok, so a little update here. After replacing all fans to be quiet 120mm and running XMP #2 profile finally this rig works cool and really quiet.

It is strange that XMP profile has such a big impact on everything.