DXR & AMD

[SamTheWelshDragon]

Hi, Folks. Recently I've been considering an upgrade to my system to target better performance in Unreal 4 based titles. I've had my eyes on a VEGA 56, however given that hardware accelerated DirectX Raytracing is just now cropping up I've become more hesitant.

 

In your eyes, how likely do you think AMD will have DXR hardware acceleration in their next round of GPUs? Do you think they'll be budget targeted? Is it worth the wait? I'd love to hear what everyone's thinking.

I know AMD has rather good DirectX 12 performance so I'm excited to see if that'll translate into a solid raytracing solution.

 

Thanks.

[5x5]

Raytracing is currently in a stillborn state. Two years after launch, you can barely find games where it's used for more than 1 or 2 cinematic close-ups of a characters eyes. Buying a card based solely because of RTX/DXr is akin to burning money

[Jon Jon]

8 minutes ago, SamTheWelshDragon said:

Hi, Folks. Recently I've been considering an upgrade to my system to target better performance in Unreal 4 based titles. I've had my eyes on a VEGA 56, however given that hardware accelerated DirectX Raytracing is just now cropping up I've become more hesitant.

 

In your eyes, how likely do you think AMD will have DXR hardware acceleration in their next round of GPUs? Do you think they'll be budget targeted? Is it worth the wait? I'd love to hear what everyone's thinking.

I know AMD has rather good DirectX 12 performance so I'm excited to see if that'll translate into a solid raytracing solution.

 

Thanks.

Second Gen Navi will have it next year, which is also what the new game consoles will be based on.

 

If you are looking for ray tracing support today, you have to go for a Geforce RTX card.

Really, an RTX 2070S would be the way to go if you want performance and the bells and whistles of RTX and the new NVENC.

 

I think anyone who is upgrading right now with interest in ray tracing should pick up an RTX 2070S at the minimum.

[SamTheWelshDragon]

1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

Raytracing is currently in a stillborn state. Two years after launch, you can barely find games where it's used for more than 1 or 2 cinematic close-ups of a characters eyes. Buying a card based solely because of RTX/DXr is akin to burning money

As someone who tinkers around in Unreal a lot and has a background in 3D art; I wholly disagree. Real-time raytracing is an important step in the right direction and I'm excited to fool around with it. I may finally be able to move more of my workflow into Unreal 4... Render times suck.

 

2 minutes ago, Jon Jon said:

Second Gen Navi will have it next year, which is also what the new game consoles will be based on.

 

If you are looking for ray tracing support today, you have to go for a Geforce RTX card.

Really, an RTX 2070S would be the way to go if you want performance and the bells and whistles of RTX and the new NVENC.

 

I think anyone who is upgrading right now with interest in ray tracing should pick up an RTX 2070S at the minimum.

Next year? Gotcha. I'm waiting for AMD to put forward their offering since I'm hoping it'll shake up the current pricing, but perhaps that's wishful thinking...

[Jon Jon]

1 minute ago, SamTheWelshDragon said:

As someone who tinkers around in Unreal a lot and has a background in 3D art; I wholly disagree. Real-time raytracing is an important step in the right direction and I'm excited to fool around with it. I may finally be able to move more of my workflow into Unreal 4... Render times suck.

 

Next year? Gotcha. I'm waiting for AMD to put forward their offering since I'm hoping it'll shake up the current pricing, but perhaps that's wishful thinking...

That is coming, but that isn't coming until next year.

 

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-roadmaps-mention-rdna2zen3-and-zen4.html

 

Since AMD just released the current Navi GPUs, and it has been confirmed that the new game consoles are running Zen + Navi with ray tracing, it's a safe bet.

 

Figure Summer 2020 is when we will see the new video cards, along with PS5 and Xbox Scarlett official announcements at E3 next year with a 2020 holiday date.

 

It's speculation, of course, but I think this speculation is a safe bet.

If you work in content creation, you not only want to go with a current gen Geforce RTX for the ray tracing, but for any video acceleration, the new NVENC provides far better image quality than what AMD can do if using GPU acceleration for video content creation.

[SamTheWelshDragon]

4 minutes ago, Jon Jon said:

That is coming, but that isn't coming until next year.

 

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-roadmaps-mention-rdna2zen3-and-zen4.html

 

Since AMD just released the current Navi GPUs, and it has been confirmed that the new game consoles are running Zen + Navi with ray tracing, it's a safe bet.

 

Figure Summer 2020 is when we will see the new video cards, along with PS5 and Xbox Scarlett official announcements at E3 next year with a 2020 holiday date.

 

It's speculation, of course, but I think this speculation is a safe bet.

If you work in content creation, you not only want to go with a current gen Geforce RTX for the ray tracing, but for any video acceleration, the new NVENC provides far better image quality than what AMD can do if using GPU acceleration for video content creation.

I'm not terribly fussed about the on-board video encoding. I guess I'll eBay my GTX 970, then get a VEGA 56 and sit cosy until 2020.