Basic office computer

[brob]

31 minutes ago, Epimetheus said:

So you're telling me that your system is a better solution because you're suggesting an as powerful cpu for more? While saying that performance doesn't matter? What the hell

 

Why you would purposely misrepresent what I said is baffling. Perhaps you should reread what I wrote. I never claimed performance did not matter, in fact quite the opposite for the cpu. What I did claim was that gpu power was not important given the way in which the system is to be used.

 

25 minutes ago, The_Prycer said:

So for about $21 more than my original build, I believe i have a significantly nicer system in place with this. Adding this to the OP as an Edit just in case anyone doesn't see this post

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Athlon 200GE 3.2 GHz Dual-Core Processor	$54.30 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard	ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$64.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill Value 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory	$29.99 @ Newegg
Storage	HP EX900 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$36.89 @ OutletPC
Case	DIYPC MA01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case	$19.98 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply	Corsair CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$54.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$261.04
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-27 13:56 EDT-0400

 

 

My reading of the storage specs for the motherboard is that PCIe 3.0x2 NVMe drives are supported with a 2xxGE apu, not PCIe 3.0x4. https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/B450M-HDV R4.0/index.asp#Specification If my reading is correct it would mean choosing something like Corsair MP300 if an NVMe drive was desired.

 

[The_Prycer]

1 minute ago, brob said:

 

 

 

My reading of the storage specs for the motherboard is that PCIe 3.0x2 NVMe drives are supported with a 2xxGE apu, not PCIe 3.0x4. https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/B450M-HDV R4.0/index.asp#Specification If my reading is correct it would mean choosing something like Corsair MP300 if an NVMe drive was desired.

 

Well then, guess I'm going back to my original choice and only spending $15 more

[steelo]

8 minutes ago, brob said:

 

Why you would purposely misrepresent what I said is baffling. Perhaps you should reread what I wrote. I never claimed performance did not matter, in fact quite the opposite for the cpu. What I did claim was that gpu power was not important given the way in which the system is to be used.

 

 

My reading of the storage specs for the motherboard is that PCIe 3.0x2 NVMe drives are supported with a 2xxGE apu, not PCIe 3.0x4. https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/B450M-HDV R4.0/index.asp#Specification If my reading is correct it would mean choosing something like Corsair MP300 if an NVMe drive was desired.

 

If you want your system to be more 'future proof' I'd go with a Ryzen 3 2200g. You may not 'need' it right now, but for $30 more, you're getting a much more capable CPU and an upgrade path for the future.

 

The motherboard you chose B450M-HDV isn't great but should suffice for a basic office system.

[The_Prycer]

Just now, steelo said:

If you want your system to be more 'future proof' I'd go with a Ryzen 3 2200g. You may not 'need' it right now, but for $30 more, you're getting a much more capable CPU and an upgrade path in the future.

I can drop a Ryzen 3 2200G or even a Ryzen 5 3400G if I really need that extra performance, but could almost get away with using a Raspberry Pi for the kind of CPU loads I encounter on a day-to-day basis. That was the purpose of choosing the 450m board, so that should I find my system to not work the way I want it to, I can submit another expense form and upgrade my machine.

 

I run Puppy Linux on my machine and the most processor intense thing I do with it is drive cloning and that's a rarity. I type out 20-100 kilobyte reports, print them off, and send them to a NAS for the majority of my time in front of my system. I have the luxury of not needing to remote in to people's systems due to working in a smaller office where i can just walk over to anyone's desk within 30 seconds to just solve a problem.

 

Because reasons, I use an iBook G4 as my personal email/web browsing daily driver (with the original 5400 RPM HDD and new battery). That thing has a  1 core processor with 1 GB of RAM and I'm still able to work remotely with it because of how little processing power I actually need to do my job.

[Epimetheus]

23 minutes ago, brob said:

 

Why you would purposely misrepresent what I said is baffling. Perhaps you should reread what I wrote. I never claimed performance did not matter, in fact quite the opposite for the cpu. What I did claim was that gpu power was not important given the way in which the system is to be used.

What is really baffling is the fact that you can't fucking read. I've already said like 3 times that with the Athlon you're getting pentium cpu performance at an athlon price, but did you address that? No, just push the bullshit a bit more hoping to some way bullshit yourself out of the argument

[brob]

1 minute ago, Epimetheus said:

I've already said like 3 times that with the Athlon you're getting pentium cpu performance at an athlon price

 

Saying it does not make it so. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Athlon-200GE-vs-Intel-Pentium-Gold-G5400/3325vs3248, https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-Gold-G5400-vs-AMD-Athlon-200GE/m484278vsm592714.

 

While the APU would be a better choice if the gpu mattered, the Intel is better when gpu needs are more basic.

[Epimetheus]

1 minute ago, brob said:

 

Saying it does not make it so. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Athlon-200GE-vs-Intel-Pentium-Gold-G5400/3325vs3248, https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-Gold-G5400-vs-AMD-Athlon-200GE/m484278vsm592714.

 

While the APU would be a better choice if the gpu mattered, the Intel is better when gpu needs are more basic.

come on, these sites are garbage

[steelo]

1 hour ago, The_Prycer said:

I can drop a Ryzen 3 2200G or even a Ryzen 5 3400G if I really need that extra performance, but could almost get away with using a Raspberry Pi for the kind of CPU loads I encounter on a day-to-day basis. That was the purpose of choosing the 450m board, so that should I find my system to not work the way I want it to, I can submit another expense form and upgrade my machine.

 

I run Puppy Linux on my machine and the most processor intense thing I do with it is drive cloning and that's a rarity. I type out 20-100 kilobyte reports, print them off, and send them to a NAS for the majority of my time in front of my system. I have the luxury of not needing to remote in to people's systems due to working in a smaller office where i can just walk over to anyone's desk within 30 seconds to just solve a problem.

 

Because reasons, I use an iBook G4 as my personal email/web browsing daily driver (with the original 5400 RPM HDD and new battery). That thing has a  1 core processor with 1 GB of RAM and I'm still able to work remotely with it because of how little processing power I actually need to do my job.

If all you're running is Linux, you could always get a rpi4 w/ 4gb of RAM, overclock it, buy a cheap HDD or SSD, and put it in a mini 'PC' case...under $150 easily.

 

I have the 2gb variant of the rpi4 that I overclocked to 1.6 ghz, connected a 64 gb SSD via USB 3.0 port and it is pretty snappy running raspbian and reading/writing files. I even wrote an 8 page paper for school with OpenLibre. With the exception of running Linux, which I'm not really used to, it felt like a typical PC. I didn't experience any stutters or delays and after the initial startup, OpenLibre loaded in about 4-5 seconds. Chromium also seems to be much more responsive compared to the rpi3, webpages load faster and the system no longer feels laggy while loading.