ASUS Poseidon vs EVGA Hydro

[crazythomas2007]

i already have a custom loop (linked) looking to upgrade my graphics card to a GTX 780 really soon.

 

i would rather not void the warranty on a GTX 780 by put a water block on myself so i was looking at EVGA Hydro and ASUS Poseidon. are there any more that i should be look at? 

 

AND what card will stay cooler when overclocking?

 

 

[Butterfish]

If you get an EVGA reference 780, you won't void the warranty by putting a block on it. If i were to choose it would be the hydro, because poseidon is made of aluminium.. (i think)

[VSG]

Ya, JJ on a stream 2 days ago mentioned the chamber had copper, nickel and "anodized materials" just like on the M6F so that's an instant fail on their part yet again!

[crazythomas2007]

so the Poseidon is out. its to long i only have 11 inches to work with... and its 11.3 it will not fit unless i take my triple 120 rad out or replace with a less thick one. witch i will not do 

 

would the fans on the Poseidon make any differences to the cooling? or would a dedicated water block just be better? 

[Lays]

so the Poseidon is out. its to long i only have 11 inches to work with... and its 11.3 it will not fit unless i take my triple 120 rad out or replace with a less thick one. witch i will not do 

 

would the fans on the Poseidon make any differences to the cooling? or would a dedicated water block just be better? 

 

A dedicated waterblock by a reputable company will be better, it's probably designed better, made out of better materials, and less things were skimped on to make it the price it is.  Buy a reference 780 and get a block for it, your temps will probably be much lower than the Poseidon. 

 

Having fans on a waterblock with a heatsink or however they did it seems pointless, I believe you can turn them off, but part of going watercooling makes your PC dead silent if you get the right fans for your rads, no point having extra fans in there especially if they're not even going to be on.  

[tbc]

A dedicated waterblock by a reputable company will be better, it's probably designed better, made out of better materials, and less things were skimped on to make it the price it is.  Buy a reference 780 and get a block for it, your temps will probably be much lower than the Poseidon. 

 

Having fans on a waterblock with a heatsink or however they did it seems pointless, I believe you can turn them off, but part of going watercooling makes your PC dead silent if you get the right fans for your rads, no point having extra fans in there especially if they're not even going to be on.  

 

it would be a looks things at that point.  watercooling blocks can get REALLY boring to look at.

[wng_kingsley7]

The Asus one isn't to great in my opinion looks quite tacky

When graphics card manufacturing gets the thermal temperatures under control in a single slot form factor it'll be awesome in my opinion.

Have EVGA even released any specs or leaked information about a hydro copper variant...they have too many damn models this one non oc that one is oc

[Ghost]

Some watercooling retailers offer cards with waterblocks of your choice with a fee of course. These come with a warranty from the store iirc.

[VSG]

Hydro copper or ek block. Poseidon is a terrible FAIL. It have awfull temps and is probably very expensiv.

 

Do you have a source to back up that claim on "awful temps"?

[R4STABAN]

Neither.

Poseidon = meh

Hydrocopper = swiftech plastic tat

[VSG]

Well. Think i went a bit extreme saying temps are awfull. But there exist better solutions that are most likely cheaper... Like EK

http://vr-zone.com/articles/asus-poseidon-gtx-780-review/67949.html

That's a fair post, and thanks for the link.

[gatecrasherlok]

I'd personally go for the hydrocopper, its either all watercooling or all air cooling for me.

[PuNkPoEtS]

well with the Asus Poseidon the watercooling is only the GPU nothing else like a universal block where as the hydro copper is a FULL COVER waterblock which is built for that card and cools the GPU, memory, and mosfets

[crazythomas2007]

Some watercooling retailers offer cards with waterblocks of your choice with a fee of course. These come with a warranty from the store iirc.

 

could you post me a link to retailers that do have this option this would solve the problem 

[VSG]

Check this link out, they got the 780s mostly out of stock but call them up and ask them to get them back in stock for you.

[ukaussi]

well with the Asus Poseidon the watercooling is only the GPU nothing else like a universal block where as the hydro copper is a FULL COVER waterblock which is built for that card and cools the GPU, memory, and mosfets

 

INCORRECT - as often is the case in forum discussions, people make comments based on what they "think" not the actual FACTS

 

REVIEWS - these are now out there from Europe and liquid cooling temps are 40-45C depending on the cooling solution. I also believe one of the reviews compared it to an EK full cover WB and temps were either same or within 5C

 

If you want to quote FACTS on the card please refer to the OFFICIAL website - http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/ROG_POSEIDONGTX780P3GD5/

 

Here is a quick pic from the above website showing it is NOT just GPU that is liquid cooled, indeed I believe you could say it is actually a FULL COVER waterblock

 

ASUS-POSEIDON-overview-arrows.bmp

[ukaussi]

Some reviews from larger websites

 

Assuming it is not overpriced I am getting 2 of these as I want that extra bonus of airflow around the GPU's for my case.

 

GURU3D - http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_gtx_780_poseidon_platinum_review,26.html

 

Overclock3D - http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/asus_rog_poseidon_gtx780_review/1

[PuNkPoEtS]

 

INCORRECT - as often is the case in forum discussions, people make comments based on what they "think" not the actual FACTS

 

REVIEWS - these are now out there from Europe and liquid cooling temps are 40-45C depending on the cooling solution. I also believe one of the reviews compared it to an EK full cover WB and temps were either same or within 5C

 

If you want to quote FACTS on the card please refer to the OFFICIAL website - http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/ROG_POSEIDONGTX780P3GD5/

 

Here is a quick pic from the above website showing it is NOT just GPU that is liquid cooled, indeed I believe you could say it is actually a FULL COVER waterblock

 

ASUS-POSEIDON-overview-arrows.bmp

 

with you pic you linked and the website you linked the writing on the website isnt shown on the pic you link but if you have a closer look on the website it doesnt say anything about the VRM temps all it says is GPU temp and with the picture on the website it says "Die-cast Thermal Armor" where as the copper part is the DirectCU H2O- Vapor chamber which is the water section of the block. i am not going what i think i am stating facts after watching reviews and also reading reviews and the 1 that really stands out is the TTL review

[ukaussi]

Not interested in a debating how each element is cooled as anyone can get them from the OFFICIAL websites and can decided what works best for them.

 

So here are some pics that will likely help and I added pricing from NEWEGG.COM

 

ASUS GTX 780 POSEIDON - $n/a

 

COPPER VAPOR CHAMBER covers the GPU & RAM**

DIE CAST HEATSINK covers the VRM and other components and are cooled by FAN

UPGRADED VRMs

BACKPLATE INCLUDED

 

 

This next pic of from - http://vr-zone.com/articles/asus-poseidon-gtx-780-review/67949.html

 

bigger version - http://wimages.vr-zone.net/2013/12/asus_rog_poseidon_780_8.jpg

 

As you can see, the COPPER VAPOR CHAMBER comes into direct contact with the GPU

**RAM is NOT technically directly cooled by the COPPER VAPOR CHAMBER, but that chamber is attached to the DIECAST HEATSINK which covers the RAM

 

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EVGA GTX 780 HYDRO COPPER - $680

 

from EVGA website - http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=400-CU-G780-B1

 

The GPU, RAM and VRMs are cooled by the same liquidcooled heatsink

(stock VRMs etc)

No additional air cooling from fans

NO BACKPLATE (optional)

 

 

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EVGA GTX 780 CLASSIFIED HYDRO COPPER - $710

 

from EVGA website - http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=400-CU-G780-B2

 

The GPU & RAM are cooled by the same liquidcooled heatsink

The VRMs are cooled by a seperate heatsink which is attached to the front cover which is attached to the main liquidcooled heatsink

UPGRADED VRMs

No additional air cooling from fans

BACKPLATE INCLUDED

 

 

 

 

 

[ukaussi]

So the pics I found above were very interesting.

 

My OPINION is that the ASUS POSEIDON is more of a competitor to the CLASSIFIED version of the HYDRO COPPER as it has a backplate and, more importantly, a superior VRM/power solution to the stock HYDRO COPPER.

 

Also, am I missing something when I also form the OPINION that the addition of fans on the POSEIDON ultimately provide a BETTER cooling than either HYDRO COPPER, especially for the VRMs and other voltage control elements?

[Monty007]

I have the EVGA Hydro Copper.  I love it.  Planning on getting another.  I game in triple 24" surround.  Low temps (18 idle and never seen it over 50 on full load)

[Monty007]

I have the EVGA Hydro Copper.  I love it.  Planning on getting another.  I game in triple 24" surround.  Low temps (18 idle and never seen it over 50 on full load)

[Lays]

Buy a reference 780 from EVGA, it does not void the warranty to remove the cooler.

 

Put a full cover block on it.    This is THE best option imo.

 

 

I did this with my cards, and flashed the bios to 130% Power Slider+ 1.3 volts, and my temps are 37-40 under gaming load at ~23 c ambient. This is with the cards overclocked to 1306 mhz on the core, and 7500 on the memory.