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[Josephcasey]

Hello All,

 

This will be my first PC build, I am very good with electronics but have not had the chance to build a gaming pc before. 

 

I live in London,England and have a budget of around £2000. Ideally I would like a build that can be upgraded without wasting too much money on replacing parts.

 

My plan would be to use the stock cooler as I have no need to overclock for now and upgrade to custom water cooling at a later date.

 

The case I really like is The Crystal 570X RGB Mirror Black Tempered Glass, Premium ATX Mid-Tower Case I really like the aesthetic of the case.

 

I have no monitor currently, but I am willing to go without to start with and buy one at a later date by using my tv for now. Although I am up for suggestions on this and possibly buying a monitor on top of my budget dependent on feedback.

 

I have basic peripherals which I will upgrade at a later date.

 

I work in the live events industry so I have had and loved many Macs and MacBook Pro's so thought it was time to have a windows machine for a change. 

 

Thank you for any help you might provide It is very much appreciated.   

[Herman Mcpootis]

just gaming or do you need it for editing/rendering/streaming? 

[Josephcasey]

1 minute ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

just gaming or do you need it for editing/rendering/streaming? 

Just gaming to start with but I am considering giving streaming a try. Is a streaming build much different?

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£319.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£189.38 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£66.18 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£97.97 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Toshiba 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£50.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Twin Video Card  (£997.38 @ Technextday) 
Case: Corsair Crystal 570X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (£148.33 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£79.00 @ AWD-IT) 
Total: £1948.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-23 04:19 BST+0100

[Josephcasey]

4 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£319.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£189.38 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£66.18 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£97.97 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Toshiba 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£50.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Twin Video Card  (£997.38 @ Technextday) 
Case: Corsair Crystal 570X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (£148.33 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£79.00 @ AWD-IT) 
Total: £1948.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-23 04:19 BST+0100

Perfect Thank you so much for your help 

[thx1138]

I mean.......If you don't care for what you pay for performance....... Also..you will need to invest into a 1440p+ 144hz+ monitor 300-750$ because those parts are a complete waste on a tv.

What games are you wanting to play?

 

Do you want to max out your budget? or get 80-90% of the performance for 50% of the price?

[thx1138]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor	£217.98 @ Aria PC
Motherboard	MSI X570-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	£165.29 @ Box Limited
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	£111.81 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£191.40 @ CCL Computers
Video Card	Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card	£420.82 @ Amazon UK
Case	Corsair Crystal 570X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case	£148.33 @ Aria PC
Power Supply	Corsair RMx 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	£88.98 @ AWD-IT
Monitor	Acer XV272U Pbmiiprzx 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor	£359.90 @ Box Limited
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£1704.51
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-23 05:41 BST+0100

You could go for a cheaper motherboard...but would have to deal with updating the BIOS. Something like the MSI Tomahawk with its BIOS update withOUT cpu..

I also picked a 3600x instead of a 3600 because you don't want to immediately deal with OC.

You could upgrade your audio. 
https://www.reddit.com/r/Zeos/comments/97mi5s/zguides_headphones/

headphones and an external DAC/AMP .... Like a 'Topping DX3'  or other suggestions from r/zeos or audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 hour ago, Josephcasey said:

Perfect Thank you so much for your help 

with monitor:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£319.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£189.38 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£66.18 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£97.97 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Toshiba 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£50.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB DUKE Video Card  (£609.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Corsair Crystal 570X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (£148.33 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£79.00 @ AWD-IT) 
Monitor: AOC CQ32G1 31.5" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (£314.42 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £1875.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-23 06:01 BST+0100

[Josephcasey]

7 hours ago, thx1138 said:

I mean.......If you don't care for what you pay for performance....... Also..you will need to invest into a 1440p+ 144hz+ monitor 300-750$ because those parts are a complete waste on a tv.

What games are you wanting to play?

 

Do you want to max out your budget? or get 80-90% of the performance for 50% of the price?

If I'm honest I would prefer a good price to performance instead of just maxing out the budget. But I feel like I need some guidance with the sweet spot as although I know lots about computer parts (I watch all of Linus/Bitwit/Jay/Pauls videos so I know about parts) I don't have a clue what works well together. I'm not confident with making my own spec as I feel like I would muck it up but I thought I should let everyone know what my maximum is.

 

I don't know what games I would play nothing specific mainly AAA titles though so if I could get an RTX card that would be great but not something thats a deal breaker if I don't get. I would like a build that I could in future add a VR rig to not sure which yet but probably a vive or rift s. 

 

In terms of monitors I would be willing to buy one now but need some advice on that also if I wanted to do a multiple monitor setup in the future by buying the same monitor again would that be an issue? I would probably want 3x monitors but that wouldn't be for at least a year just 1 is good for now.

[Herman Mcpootis]

19 minutes ago, Josephcasey said:

In terms of monitors I would be willing to buy one now but need some advice on that also if I wanted to do a multiple monitor setup in the future by buying the same monitor again would that be an issue? I would probably want 3x monitors but that wouldn't be for at least a year just 1 is good for now.

If you're willing to go for a cheaper board and case on my build, you can squeeze in a 1440p ultrawide 100hz monitor. 

[Josephcasey]

22 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

If you're willing to go for a cheaper board and case on my build, you can squeeze in a 1440p ultrawide 100hz monitor. 

I'm willing to go over budget for a monitor if it means I get a better price to performance.

 

What would you suggest in terms of monitors? better refresh rate or ultra wide I have never tried either for gaming so am unsure the effects other than videos I've watched.

[Herman Mcpootis]

56 minutes ago, Josephcasey said:

I'm willing to go over budget for a monitor if it means I get a better price to performance.

 

What would you suggest in terms of monitors? better refresh rate or ultra wide I have never tried either for gaming so am unsure the effects other than videos I've watched.

you can get an Asus MX34VQ if you drop the board down to a B450-A Pro and the case to a phanteks P400 Digital.

[thx1138]

10 hours ago, Josephcasey said:

If I'm honest I would prefer a good price to performance instead of just maxing out the budget. But I feel like I need some guidance with the sweet spot as although I know lots about computer parts (I watch all of Linus/Bitwit/Jay/Pauls videos so I know about parts) I don't have a clue what works well together. I'm not confident with making my own spec as I feel like I would muck it up but I thought I should let everyone know what my maximum is.

 

I don't know what games I would play nothing specific mainly AAA titles though so if I could get an RTX card that would be great but not something thats a deal breaker if I don't get. I would like a build that I could in future add a VR rig to not sure which yet but probably a vive or rift s. 

 

In terms of monitors I would be willing to buy one now but need some advice on that also if I wanted to do a multiple monitor setup in the future by buying the same monitor again would that be an issue? I would probably want 3x monitors but that wouldn't be for at least a year just 1 is good for now.

well. gaming wise the 3600 vs the 3700 will basically be the same. If you OC the 3700 might pull away...but we are talking extremely little.

If you don't care for pcie 4.0 then these motherboards have BIOS Flash
https://premiumbuilds.com/motherboards/list-of-motherboards-with-usb-bios-flashback/
 

MSI Tomahawk or a Gaming PRO Carbon would save some money and not effect performance.

If you don't want to deal with OC but want the most performance...I would really recommend a 3600/3800 speed RAM kit.

If you want a RTX card for more than a paper weight....very simply I wouldn't get lower than a 2080Ti or maybe a 2080$uper on a deal, Price/perf 5700xt blows it out of the water...and if you really want to try nVidias RTX then a 2070$uper at a 100$ premium for basically the same performance + RTX wouldn't be wasting too much to try it out. It is a usual thing in the tech world where the 1st gen($uper is just 1st gen+) of hardware never works well and usually the 2nd generation fixes 90% of the issues and is generally the better time to buy in.

Monitors are a pretty personal thing...like cases... If you want a 3x monitor setup but not right now.....you have to decide what size you wanna gun for. 27" or 31" or if you want to go with a bigger center monitor...or if you want a center monitor raised above and buy a 3x set later...or curved...or etc......

whats with people not giving a fuck about audio? I get it in a under 1$k (budget)build...but.....with over? I have better audio with a pair of 30$ headphones on my secondary 300$ build than most of these 2k$ plus builds....

[Josephcasey]

On 8/23/2019 at 10:32 PM, thx1138 said:

well. gaming wise the 3600 vs the 3700 will basically be the same. If you OC the 3700 might pull away...but we are talking extremely little.

If you don't care for pcie 4.0 then these motherboards have BIOS Flash
https://premiumbuilds.com/motherboards/list-of-motherboards-with-usb-bios-flashback/
 

MSI Tomahawk or a Gaming PRO Carbon would save some money and not effect performance.

If you don't want to deal with OC but want the most performance...I would really recommend a 3600/3800 speed RAM kit.

If you want a RTX card for more than a paper weight....very simply I wouldn't get lower than a 2080Ti or maybe a 2080$uper on a deal, Price/perf 5700xt blows it out of the water...and if you really want to try nVidias RTX then a 2070$uper at a 100$ premium for basically the same performance + RTX wouldn't be wasting too much to try it out. It is a usual thing in the tech world where the 1st gen($uper is just 1st gen+) of hardware never works well and usually the 2nd generation fixes 90% of the issues and is generally the better time to buy in.

Monitors are a pretty personal thing...like cases... If you want a 3x monitor setup but not right now.....you have to decide what size you wanna gun for. 27" or 31" or if you want to go with a bigger center monitor...or if you want a center monitor raised above and buy a 3x set later...or curved...or etc......

whats with people not giving a fuck about audio? I get it in a under 1$k (budget)build...but.....with over? I have better audio with a pair of 30$ headphones on my secondary 300$ build than most of these 2k$ plus builds....

Ok thank you for your suggestions

 

In terms of audio I have these https://pro.ultimateears.com/ue-live-world-s-best-top-iem.html