Windows update failure/boot order issue

[gdow]

Howdy all, last weekend I upgraded my desktop PC so I could run the X-Plane 11 flight simulator. I upgraded to a AMD Ryzen 5 3600 from a 5 1400, and to 16GB Corsair 3200 RAM from 8GB g-skill 2133. XMP and bios work correctly and computer functions normally most of the time. However sometimes when I go to boot the computer, especially after doing Windows updates, (this desktop was off line for a long time and needed lots of updates) the boot order gets messed up. If I get into bios and can reset it the PC will boot and seems to work fine. I have a 500GB Samsung 860 SSD, a 120GB off brand SSD, 1TB WD HDD. The OS is installed on samsing. It was on off brand, cloned drive and reformatted 120GB, worked fine since Christmas until now. when the issue happens it appears to try to boot off 1TB WD HDD. I change it and it'll boot fine. The other issue I'm having is the Windows 1903 update is failing. I wanted to update before I installed X-Plane so I don't have to download X-Plane 11 (slow internet) again if I have to clean install so I've been tryin it last three days. It will restart the computer and fail to boot due to changing boot order or give me a BSOD with a driver_watchdog error I believe. I have the updated chipset drivers from AMD, latest BIOS, and lastest AMD video driver. I didn't know whether to backup all 3 drives and cwipe/Clean install Windows 1903 or 1803 from existing USB boot drive I have. I dont know what else to try, thank you for your help. I don't even know if the issues are related.

Ryzen 5 3600

MSI B350M BAZOOKA

RADEON RX 580 4GB

16GB Corsair 3200Mhz

450W cyberpower PSU(it was a prebuilt)

Corsair h100i AIO cooler

500GB Samsung 860

120GB SK hynix

1TB Western Digital HDD

(No overclocking expect XMP enabled)

Windows 1803

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

21 minutes ago, gdow said:

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I have a 500GB Samsung 860 SSD, a 120GB off brand SSD, 1TB WD HDD. The OS is installed on samsing. It was on off brand, cloned drive and reformatted 120GB, worked fine since Christmas until now. when the issue happens it appears to try to boot off 1TB WD HDD. I change it and it'll boot fine. The other issue I'm having is the Windows 1903 update is failing.

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Which drive is Windows installed? Because you initially said it was installed on your Samsung 860 SSD. But then a sentence or so later you said you were trying to boot off the HDD? 

 

If you're having issues installing 1903, try using the Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool to repair your Windows image. Corruptions in system files could cause updates to fail, particularly for large feature updates.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/947821/fix-windows-update-errors-by-using-the-dism-or-system-update-readiness

 

[gdow]

Sorry for that confusion. Windows is installed on the Samsung SSD, however when the pc switches the boot order on it's own, in bios in the boot order shows it is tryin to boot of WD HDD of which there is no windows installed so it never boots into windows.

[Samyol]

Just to confirm, is Windows Boot Manager an option in the boot menu? Generally if it keeps defaulting to a drive you'd like it not to, there's no other drives that have a valid boot partition therefor defaulting to drive that may be unoptimal.

[gdow]

Honestly I cannot answer your windows boot question, I do recall seein somehin that said Windows Boot Override, but never what you've spoke off. I can look tonight after work. When the first new SSD (120GB) was installed I thought I wiped the 1TB that came with the computer, but now I'm not so sure. I wonder if I left Windows on that drive and it keeps seeing it. When I upgraded to the Samsung 500GB I used macrium reflect (I think) to clone the 120GB SSD and then reformatted the 120GB SSD, the only thing on it is the X-Plane 11 demo. I'll do some lookin tonight.

[gdow]

Actually if you'd allow me to ask a follow up question, this Windows Boot Manager, is that somethin I would see in the BIOS somewhere? Again I'll have a look tonight.

[Samyol]

Please check the attached image, see how Windows Boot Manager is the primary boot option? That's how things should be on a drive running windows, if that option is not available this may be because the Windows boot partition is corrupted which would suck a lot! I accessed the boot menu pressing F11 however it varies between motherboard vendors so try and search your motherboard on Google and which button opens the boot device selection menu.

[gdow]

I was able to check, it does show Windows Boot Manager, but it showed my WD HDD first rather than Samsung SSD. There is a Windows folder on the WD (E:) that was not there last week before all this.

[gdow]

To be honest, if I can get the boot order problem resolved then I do not care about the update right now as long as I can get my machine back to normal. If I have to do a clean install of windows I can probably do that. Upon gettin home, I checked into the Windows Boot Manager, when I went to shut down the computer to restart it and check that it gave me a BSOD for Driver_Power_Failure.

Edited August 8, 2019 by gdow