Time for an upgrade?

[Marbo]

Hello from New member

 

Here's the dilemma, I'm running some old hardware, but it works fine. Now and again I'm left wanting but not very often. 

 

I'm not a heavy gamer. Pc used for general bits and bobs. Been teaching myself a bit about modeling and using daz3d for rendering. 

 

I'm in the UK and visiting New York in a few weeks. Do I upgrade just because hardware is so much cheaper there? 

 

Very limited budget (lots of other things taking priority). Looking at

Ryzen 5 2600 

B450 aorus

32GB 3000mhz ram (overkill but its cheapish) 

 

Current 

I5 3570

B something board

16GB 1600 mhz ram

 

Keeping 1050ti, psu, and aio cooler. 

 

Is it worth it or would I just be buying for the sake of it? 

 

Thanks

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, Marbo said:

32GB 3000mhz ram (overkill but its cheapish) 

if this is cheapish then you have a very different standard of memory prices to others

 

3 minutes ago, Marbo said:

 

Is it worth it or would I just be buying for the sake of it? 

just stay with your current setup. On the cheap there's 8 threaded Xeons and i7s on LGA 1155 for upgrade

[Senzelian]

In case you don't have an SSD yet it might be better to upgrade to one of those before upgrading anything else.
That alone can make a massive difference.

[Marbo]

9 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

if this is cheapish then you have a very different standard of memory prices to others

 

just stay with your current setup. On the cheap there's 8 threaded Xeons and i7s on LGA 1155 for upgrade

Thanks for the reply. 

 

The 32G gig works out to about £110 over here about £150. So much cheaper. 

 

Looked at used i7 but thought prices seem a little high for an old cpu. Would it give much of an improvement over the i5? 

 

Never thought about putting a Xeon in it. 

 

Issue I have is while rendering. 

I don't use high settings, just playing about with it. But if I leave a render running even simple browsing becomes slow. 

[Marbo]

8 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

In case you don't have an SSD yet it might be better to upgrade to one of those before upgrading anything else.
That alone can make a massive difference.

Yes, I've used ssd for some while now. Unbelievable difference when I got my first. 

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, Marbo said:

The 32G gig works out to about £110 over here about £150. So much cheaper. 

I mean, budget to memory in ratio to CPU and motherboard.

 

2 minutes ago, Marbo said:

Would it give much of an improvement over the i5? 

HT gives about 30% performance increase for the same frequency

 

2 minutes ago, Marbo said:

Never thought about putting a Xeon in it. 

Xeon E3 and E3 v2 in your case, 1230 or larger for the model number, dont use one with extra letters except an E or V in the name.

[Marbo]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I mean, budget to memory in ratio to CPU and motherboard.

 

HT gives about 30% performance increase for the same frequency

 

Xeon E3 and E3 v2 in your case, 1230 or larger for the model number, dont use one with extra letters except an E or V in the name.

Thanks again

 

I'll look into the Xeon 

 

I know the ram would be overkill, but as its a lot cheaper than uk. Also thought it might help when trying to work with large scenes in daz. 

[OmicronEta]

2 minutes ago, Marbo said:

Thanks again

 

I'll look into the Xeon 

 

I know the ram would be overkill, but as its a lot cheaper than uk. Also thought it might help when trying to work with large scenes in daz. 

To touch on the CPU as well, the i7-3770 is about 100 bucks on ebay, and without oc or an x-series chip this is pretty good.

[Marbo]

20 minutes ago, OmicronEta said:

To touch on the CPU as well, the i7-3770 is about 100 bucks on ebay, and without oc or an x-series chip this is pretty good.

UK is about the same in pounds as you pay in dollars so about $120

 

 

 

Anyway, no huge rush 

[berberries]

imo if you would want an upgradable path, ryzen would be the way to go

[Marbo]

6 minutes ago, berwynhan said:

imo if you would want an upgradable path, ryzen would be the way to go

If I decide to go with a big upgrade then definitely ryzen. 

 

I think my issue is that I'm trying to justify it just because I'm visiting the US. 

 

Currently house hunting so it's unlikely I'd get the chance again for a couple of years. Every penny counts

 

If I can get an i7 3770k for under £100 in the next 6 weeks then that will do. 

 

 

[OmicronEta]

On 7/19/2019 at 5:41 PM, Marbo said:

If I decide to go with a big upgrade then definitely ryzen. 

 

I think my issue is that I'm trying to justify it just because I'm visiting the US. 

 

Currently house hunting so it's unlikely I'd get the chance again for a couple of years. Every penny counts

 

If I can get an i7 3770k for under £100 in the next 6 weeks then that will do. 

 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?Processor%20Model=Intel%20Core%20i7%2D3770&_sop=12&_sacat=164&_nkw=i7-3770&_dcat=164

Here is just the UK search for the i7-7700. Most of the buy now seems to be 70 pounds with 20 for shipping.

Also to touch on ryzen, Yes it is upgradeable but, if you want Ryzen you are gonna not just need a new processor, but a new motherboard as well as ram. all in all its a much more expensive upgrade. You might need new thermal paste with a new cpu by the way. Arctic Silver 5 is very good and is anywhere from 5 to 8 USD. Just a heads up.

[Marbo]

On 7/21/2019 at 8:00 AM, OmicronEta said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?Processor%20Model=Intel%20Core%20i7%2D3770&_sop=12&_sacat=164&_nkw=i7-3770&_dcat=164

Here is just the UK search for the i7-7700. Most of the buy now seems to be 70 pounds with 20 for shipping.

Also to touch on ryzen, Yes it is upgradeable but, if you want Ryzen you are gonna not just need a new processor, but a new motherboard as well as ram. all in all its a much more expensive upgrade. You might need new thermal paste with a new cpu by the way. Arctic Silver 5 is very good and is anywhere from 5 to 8 USD. Just a heads up.

Looking at a few options. The ryzen 2600 +motherboard +16gb ram works out around £200 from micro center in New York. 

 

Get £80-100 back by selling my older stuff and it works out at not much more than an old 3770. 

 

As far as I can see the ryzen 2600 out performs the i7. 

[OmicronEta]

On 7/25/2019 at 8:43 PM, Marbo said:

Looking at a few options. The ryzen 2600 +motherboard +16gb ram works out around £200 from micro center in New York. 

 

Get £80-100 back by selling my older stuff and it works out at not much more than an old 3770. 

 

As far as I can see the ryzen 2600 out performs the i7. 

Great. The closest Microcenter to me is and hour and a half, but they always have some fricken incredible deals. If you go with that, it will definitely outperform, the 2 extra cores will be much more helpful in rendering as well.

[Marbo]

Little bit OTT on my original plans. But one tip, get that old kit listed. 

I have funded this with old bits I sold on ebay. Seems if you have anything that was half decent in the day, and no longer available, people go nuts over it. 

 

I'm about £50 short of covering the whole lot but still have a bit of an i5 bundle to list. 

 

System 

 

Ryzen 5 2600

Asrock B450 steel legend 

Silverstone ps15 matx csse

1050 ti cerberus 

16GB vengeance lp 3000mhz

Intel 512GB m.2 nvme

Silverstone Tundra 240mm 

Corsair cx550

4x deepcool rf120 rgb fans