Which GPU should I get?

[Nightbot]

Ive got a Dell Optiplex 3010 SFF with an i5 3470 and 8gbs of ram but the only downside is that it has a 240 watt power supply. Which low profile GPU should I get that would be fine with a 240 watt power supply. My pc: 

[Polargirl]

5 hours ago, Nightbot said:

Someone else did the same thing with the very same computer in another thread. 

 

I was going to reccommend a GeForce® GTX 1050 Ti OC Low Profile 4G or similar card. Just about any card that doesn't need a power cable from the PSU like this one, will need at least a 300 watt PSU but preferably 350. Much more if it does need a 6 pin and especially an 8 pin. I didn't know until reading it that this computer has a really abnormal sized mini-itx PSU.

 

The cheapest mini-itx PSU on Newegg is $29 and only to 300 watts and I'm not sure if it will fit in your computer.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16817148063

 

You might be able to find a used one on eBay that fits your computer fairly cheap. Another route you can take, which was suggested in the thread I linked you, suggested just buying a case + PSU combo. Those can be had often quite cheaper than just a mini-itx PSU especially if you can buy a regular ATX PSU for your motherboard. You'll have to check specs and look what connects to it. 

[aisle9]

5 hours ago, Nightbot said:

Ive got a Dell Optiplex 3010 SFF with an i5 3470 and 8gbs of ram but the only downside is that it has a 240 watt power supply. Which low profile GPU should I get that would be fine with a 240 watt power supply. My pc: 

I use 1050 and 1050 Ti cards in those SFF systems all the damn time. If you don't need that much juice or have price concerns, a GT 1030 or 750 Ti might be suited. The cards listed below all have low-profile variants (IIRC) and are viable for some level of 720p or better gaming in 2019:

GTX 750 Ti

GT 1030

GTX 1050

GTX 1050 Ti

GTX 1650 (LP version might not be out yet)

RX 550

RX 460

RX 560

[Polargirl]

26 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

I use 1050 and 1050 Ti cards in those SFF systems all the damn time. If you don't need that much juice or have price concerns, a GT 1030 or 750 Ti might be suited. The cards listed below all have low-profile variants (IIRC) and are viable for some level of 720p or better gaming in 2019:

GTX 750 Ti

GT 1030

GTX 1050

GTX 1050 Ti

GTX 1650 (LP version might not be out yet)

RX 550

RX 460

RX 560

MSI and Zotac just released low profile 1650 cards two weeks ago.

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14585/msi-zotac-low-profile-geforce-gtx-1650

 

They are still dual slot so don't know if they'll fit and about $170 or more than the computer is worth. 

[Sat1600]

Is that the SFF (small form factor) or the USFF (ultra small form factor). It looks like the usff. If that's the case it does not have a pcie slot and will not take ANY gpu.

 

you can use an adapter to attach it to the mini pcie slot.  This will take away the wifi capability and the gpu will be external. Not really a great solution. 

[aisle9]

2 hours ago, Polargirl said:

MSI and Zotac just released low profile 1650 cards two weeks ago.

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14585/msi-zotac-low-profile-geforce-gtx-1650

 

They are still dual slot so don't know if they'll fit and about $170 or more than the computer is worth. 

True, but a used 750 Ti or a 1030 would work on a tighter budget.

44 minutes ago, Sat1600 said:

Is that the SFF (small form factor) or the USFF (ultra small form factor). It looks like the usff. If that's the case it does not have a pcie slot and will not take ANY gpu.

 

you can use an adapter to attach it to the mini pcie slot.  This will take away the wifi capability and the gpu will be external. Not really a great solution. 

It's the SFF. It has two expansion slots.

[Sat1600]

19 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

It's the SFF. It has two expansion slots.

In that case the 1050ti low profile is the most powerful card you can get right now. I haven't seen anybody carrying the 1650 lp yet. The Rx 560 is another option. Newegg has a refurb for $115.

 

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-560-rx-560-4gt-lp-oc/p/N82E16814137425

 

Low profile cards are expensive. You can get an RX 570 for $120 or less so the cost of these cards are hard to swallow

[Polargirl]

55 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

True, but a used 750 Ti or a 1030 would work on a tighter budget.

It's the SFF. It has two expansion slots.

This computer sells for about $100 on Amazon so yes, your last recommendation is a better budget fit. I just don't know what the OP's actual budget and intended use for this computer is. If gaming, he/she might be able to get a used 1050 Ti on eBay for around the same price that would allow for decent 720P gaming with even 1080P 60hz possible in most AAA games if the gaming settings were kept to a minimum in the latter.

 

The I7-3770K has Intel® HD Graphics 4000 built in so no need to get a separate card just to process basic graphics.

[lloose]

OptiPlex 3010 has its 16x slot on the bottom. This means you not only need a half height card, but it also has to be single slot. There are no 6 pins on that power supply and the power supply and motherboard are completely proprietary so you can’t buy a small form factor power supply or case swap the motherboard. The only modern card that will work are single slot low profile gt 1030’s. 

 

I have an OptiPlex 3020 that I use as my Plex server. I still need a gpu for hardware acceleration so I’m probably going to buy the mid tower version 3020 since it doesn’t have any proprietary connectors or power supply. I’ll just move what I can over to that. 

[Polargirl]

12 minutes ago, lloose said:

OptiPlex 3010 has its 16x slot on the bottom. This means you not only need a half height card, but it also has to be single slot. There are no 6 pins on that power supply and the power supply and motherboard are completely proprietary so you can’t buy a small form factor power supply or case swap the motherboard. The only modern card that will work are single slot low profile gt 1030’s. 

 

I have an OptiPlex 3020 that I use as my Plex server. I still need a gpu for hardware acceleration so I’m probably going to buy the mid tower version 3020 since it doesn’t have any proprietary connectors or power supply. I’ll just move what I can over to that. 

I just checked eBay and there are bids for used I7-3770K for $100 or about what the entire computer sells for on Amazon. The OP should probably pull the CPU from the mobo, sell it on eBay, and junk the rest of the computer except maybe the memory. The money could be used to buy a more upgradable computer.

[aisle9]

26 minutes ago, lloose said:

OptiPlex 3010 has its 16x slot on the bottom. This means you not only need a half height card, but it also has to be single slot. There are no 6 pins on that power supply and the power supply and motherboard are completely proprietary so you can’t buy a small form factor power supply or case swap the motherboard. The only modern card that will work are single slot low profile gt 1030’s. 

 

I have an OptiPlex 3020 that I use as my Plex server. I still need a gpu for hardware acceleration so I’m probably going to buy the mid tower version 3020 since it doesn’t have any proprietary connectors or power supply. I’ll just move what I can over to that. 

Oops, I thought the 16x on the bottom nonsense started with the -020 series. In that case, there is no real upside to gaming on a 3010 when you can get a 390 and use a bigger GPU.

[VenomizerX]

240W for a GPU upgrade is kind of iffy at best. Try to look for low power cards that don't require extra power connectors and probably you won't be able to come across one that is modern or new so I think used is your best bet. Even an entry-level 1650 would require at least a 300W PSU so yeah....

[lloose]

15 hours ago, aisle9 said:

Oops, I thought the 16x on the bottom nonsense started with the -020 series. In that case, there is no real upside to gaming on a 3010 when you can get a 390 and use a bigger GPU.

You might actually be right. I checked the motherboard on a 3010 and its on the top. 

 

OP: Check inside your case. If the larger PCI-E slot is higher than the smaller one, you can get a 1050 or 1650 (when they finally release a half height version).

[aisle9]

7 hours ago, VenomizerX said:

240W for a GPU upgrade is kind of iffy at best. Try to look for low power cards that don't require extra power connectors and probably you won't be able to come across one that is modern or new so I think used is your best bet. Even an entry-level 1650 would require at least a 300W PSU so yeah....

The manufacturer recommendations for PSU wattage are kind of junk, really. I could pair my i7-6700T with a GTX 1050 Ti and be perfectly fine with a 200W PSU. I know because I've done it. I could also pair my GTX 1050 Ti with a ten-core Skylake-X i9, in which case 300W wouldn't even be enough to post the thing. The best way to do it is to add up the total TDP of your parts (PCPP is good for getting that), then add 10% to that number and that's the lowest wattage PSU I'd go with.

[VenomizerX]

6 hours ago, aisle9 said:

The manufacturer recommendations for PSU wattage are kind of junk, really. I could pair my i7-6700T with a GTX 1050 Ti and be perfectly fine with a 200W PSU. I know because I've done it. I could also pair my GTX 1050 Ti with a ten-core Skylake-X i9, in which case 300W wouldn't even be enough to post the thing. The best way to do it is to add up the total TDP of your parts (PCPP is good for getting that), then add 10% to that number and that's the lowest wattage PSU I'd go with.

True and since newer cards are power limited anyway even if you OC it isn't going to increase power draw to a point where the PSU wattage would be of concern...

[Polargirl]

7 hours ago, lloose said:

You might actually be right. I checked the motherboard on a 3010 and its on the top. 

 

OP: Check inside your case. If the larger PCI-E slot is higher than the smaller one, you can get a 1050 or 1650 (when they finally release a half height version).

The half height version of the 1650 was released two weeks ago. I linked earlier in this thread and will again.

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14585/msi-zotac-low-profile-geforce-gtx-1650

[lloose]

On 7/8/2019 at 7:27 PM, Polargirl said:

The half height version of the 1650 was released two weeks ago. I linked earlier in this thread and will again.

 

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14585/msi-zotac-low-profile-geforce-gtx-1650

Sure it was released but I can’t find them anywhere. 

[Polargirl]

17 hours ago, lloose said:

Sure it was released but I can’t find them anywhere. 

 

Oops. Link to wrong card. You're right.