Upgrading GPU with 4790k

[Zefrank]

So this is my current PC build : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v8GGr6

The 4790k is overclocked to 4.4ghz on all cores (considered trying to go higher, but not sure how safe that is on air. Any suggestions are appreciated).

My Ram is overclocked to 2400hz

So if I say upgraded to a 2080ti and used a AW3418DW monitor I would I have issues with CPU bottlenecking?

To be honest that would be amazing if that would be possible since i can buy a 2080ti for 1000 and the monitor for 800 at my local Microcenter.

I also considered going with a 2080 and PG279Q.

Thank you in advance for the suggestions.

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, Zefrank said:

So if I say upgraded to a 2080ti and used a AW3418DW monitor I would I have issues with CPU bottlenecking

Depends on the game, the 4790k is still capable but is not godly anymore.

[Dedayog]

The 4790K even at 4.4GHz won't give you the support to let the 2080TI hit the high 100+ fps for that monitor.

 

Good price for a 2080Ti, but still think it's too much for the 4790K.  Tho I'd buy the monitor and card.  Upgrade to Ryzen 2 or a solid 8700K/5GHz or better CPU to really unleash that GPU.

[Zefrank]

Yeah, I just don't have the budget for a whole new system right now. I guess my other option is to keep what I have now and wait another year and build a whole new system. Maybe by that point, AMD will have higher end GPUs out, but that is wishful thinking at this point.

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

1 hour ago, Zefrank said:

So if I say upgraded to a 2080ti and used a AW3418DW monitor I would I have issues with CPU bottlenecking?

you should ALWAYS get best gpu you can afford.

when you really face badly cpu bottlenecks, then consider upgrade or lock fps

[Srnewbee]

well I assume that 4790k 4.4 is not enough to power 2080TI.

1) overclock the 4790k to 4.7. On air, it is still doable as long as prime 95 blend is below mid80s.

2) 2080 should prolly offer 1:1 CPU to GPU with no bottlenecking given that you oced it to 4.7 or higher.

3) even wth a 4790k and a 2080, at 1440p, if you want steady frametime, this is only possible at 75fps so getting a 144hz is an overskill unless you are a competitive online gamer. I suggest a cheap 75hz monitor. 

[JabroniBaloney]

11 hours ago, jstudrawa said:

The 4790K even at 4.4GHz won't give you the support to let the 2080TI hit the high 100+ fps for that monitor.

 

Good price for a 2080Ti, but still think it's too much for the 4790K.  Tho I'd buy the monitor and card.  Upgrade to Ryzen 2 or a solid 8700K/5GHz or better CPU to really unleash that GPU.

You're just wrong 

[Mick Naughty]

4790k won’t handle much. But you can get the best card you can and get a better cpu later. 

 

Just hope the gameplay isnt horrid even with a frame cap. 

[Dedayog]

6 minutes ago, candle86 said:

the 4790k can handle plenty, I mean really people what the actual fork. It's comparable to an i5 9600k for crying out loud, its can handle itself just fine, and the OP will have a balanced system, let me guess your all looking at that damn bottleneck calculator while getting off on your RGB Ram?

 

OP don't worry, your idea is fine, at 1440p your cpu will not bottleneck your GPU in anything but the most extreme cpu bound games like Cities Skylines which also don't need a GPU faster than mid range 2008 anyway. 

Exactly!   Or it's called having owned one with my 1080Ti on the 1440p UW and realizing it was holding me back a bit. Then when I got the 8700K I compared the frame rates from old vs new and did some "math" I think they call it and found a number called "an improvement".

 

Or you can live in your fantasy world that thinks the 4790K is still a monster.  Totally your call.  

 

Damn I wish my RAM was RGB!  I have to settle for porn

 

Edit:  You still need a great CPU to get high FPS, whether it's 1080p or 1440p.  The 4790K just doesn't push enough to balance a 2080Ti and UW, but I would still get it and upgrade CPU after Ryzen 2 benches.

 

[Fasauceome]

15 minutes ago, JabroniBaloney said:

You're just wrong 

You could just elaborate instead of mock, that way you can actually help OP instead of look like a jackass. 

 

@jstudrawa and I have both owned a 4790k, have you? Maybe you can get some qualitative data first.

[Fasauceome]

15 minutes ago, candle86 said:

It's comparable to an i5 9600k

Where exactly have you heard this? It's far from true, the 9600k outclasses it in every way.

[Dedayog]

Just now, candle86 said:

Anything is an improvement over something else, but to imply that a 4790k can't do it, or as another poster put it can't handle much is simple arrogance, it can do it just fine, sure can it be done faster why yes it can, but is the system balanced with the OP's idea why yes it is. Guess what your i7 8600k is holding you back, you need an i9 9900k to really unlock your potential fully. Let's stop lying to people, and lets work on something called honesty, it can do what the OP wants, it will work just fine, and there is no major bottleneck that will occur at 1440p

Look, all snark and sarcasm aside...  I think you're confusing 2 things:

 

1.  Can the 4790K provide a good experience at 1440p UW?   Yes.

 

2.  Is the 4790K a CPU to pair with a 2080Ti to get the most out of the 2080Ti?  No.

 

The 4790K just doesn't balance out a 2080Ti at that pixel count and fps.  It'l run and be fine and get you 75-90 FPS>  But you paid $1800 so why wouldn't you go for full balance?  

 

Also, the 8700K was the best gaming CPU when I bought it, and is barely behind the 9900K now.  I am advising him since he's buying NOW, not looking back and critiquing a build that didn't exist a couple years ago.  If he had the 2080Ti now and wanted to buy an UW, I wouldn't critique the 2080Tii purchase.

[Mick Naughty]

lol owned one and it had issues with games even at 1440p. People are on crack here. 

[Dedayog]

11 minutes ago, candle86 said:

Yes I have, I also flip computers as a side job, and in very rare cases will an 8 thread cpu be a bottleneck in any gaming application, and as resolution increases the demand on the cpu stays the same while the gpu gets more work, meaning at 1080p the system is unbalanced, at 1440p it is just fine and very well balanced. As for it comparing to the modern i5, actually it does, 8threads vs 6, more cache for the i7 of course, they are quite comparable, also considering the 9th gen is basically overclocked skylake with extra cores welded on, and the IPC improvement from 4th to 6th gen was 5-7%, I'd say its quite obvious that even to 9th gen your only looking at most 10% IPC improvement. 

 

More what i sense is an elitist attitude that is the exact opposite of helpful

 

He already owns the i7, it is his current build, he is upgrading the GPU, and there is zero reason to toss the whole damn thing out for a 10% IPC gain.

Think you need to read more posts from those talking in this thread, anything but Elitist.  Trying to actually have the OP NOT buy a 2080Ti as I think it's way too damn expensive

and wouldn't be utilized fully.  

 

But since he has no trouble dropping $1800 for a GPU and monitor, he's wanting the best.  So...???

 

I'd say have the OP buy the GPU/UW and then post his results and feedback.

[UrbanFreestyle]

45 minutes ago, candle86 said:

the 4790k can handle plenty, I mean really people what the actual fork. It's comparable to an i5 9600k for crying out loud, its can handle itself just fine, and the OP will have a balanced system,

I have to say i moved from an i5 8400 to an i7 4790k and haven't noticed any change in real world use photo editing, video editing or CAD.

[Fasauceome]

2 hours ago, candle86 said:

8threads vs 6

2 physical cores runs circles around hyperthreading

 

2 hours ago, candle86 said:

more cache for the i7 of course

Oh and how much exactly? I think you'll find the i5 actually has more cache

 

2 hours ago, candle86 said:

the 9th gen is basically overclocked skylake with extra cores welded on, and the IPC improvement from 4th to 6th gen was 5-7%

You're giving Intel too little credit, not that they deserve much but still, it's much more than 7% over haswell. Add to the fact that the IHS is soldered so overclocking is better, Haswell's integrated voltage regulator will hold it back, and the fact that the 9th gen is just binned 8th gen for OC potential, the 9600k dominates the 4790k in its specs. In practice, again it's shown to be much better, AAA titles like battlefield struggle on Haswell, titles like Rainbow 6 siege can leverage something like 12 or 16 cores, and the single threaded performance for high fps is definitely much more than 7%. 

2 hours ago, candle86 said:

More what i sense is an elitist attitude

You probably want to make sure of what the word elitist means before using it.

[Srnewbee]

6 hours ago, candle86 said:

Clock haswell and coffelake the same and test single thread you will be surprised ipc improvement sucks

Some what true, single core hasnt improved much but in terms of multi core and memeory bandwidth, its much much faster. 

 

I think the 4790k should be.paired with a 2080 at max. 2080ti is just a waste.

 

If you are talking about value ratio, i think this should depend on OPs desirer average fps. For me, my sweet spot is 75fps so 4790k and 2080 makes the most sense. If OP is a hardcore gamer, he needs at least 144hz monitor and needs a complete new system.

[Zefrank]

Yeah, I think I might wait for the 2080 super in a few weeks and see how those look. I would be okay with that GPU using the 27 in the monitor I linked before. I just know I cannot spend the money on a complete system this year. Not that I don't have the money, but I have a few expensive hobbies including PC gaming.

 

Thanks for the comments

 

Cheers!

[ComputerNerdDude158]

You should be mostly good, any cpu heavy stuff you will see a bottneck, but most of the time you shouldn't have any problems