New Gaming Rig

[pepperclipp]

Hi,

I am planning on buying a new Desktop very soon.

My budget is around 2.5K € (can be a little more). I was wondering if anybody could help me figure out what would be the best option at that price point.

I plan on gaming but not on doing some media work so I don't need a crazy Rizen CPU.

What would be my best pick ?

Thanks guys

[TheGlenlivet]

What country?  Do you have pcpartpicker.com ?  Figure out what resolution you want to play at and then put a system together with pcpartpicker and post it here.  We can help you fine tune it from there.

[pepperclipp]

10 minutes ago, TheGlenlivet said:

What country?  Do you have pcpartpicker.com ?  Figure out what resolution you want to play at and then put a system together with pcpartpicker and post it here.  We can help you fine tune it from there.

I'm in France and honestly, I've never built a desktop so I'll probably buy the pc built. I'm aiming at 1440p with a 120 or 144hz monitor.

I'm also looking for a pc builder that can fairly overclock the CPU.

As my first pc, I don't think water cooling is a good idea however if it's required to have good thermals with a build like this I can deal with it.

 

I was aiming at something along those lines, to be honest:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C9k4r6

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($374.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z390-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($230.95 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($199.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($77.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($149.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card  ($1299.98 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master - MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($127.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2551.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-25 12:12 EDT-0400

[TheGlenlivet]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	€415.00 @ Amazon France
CPU Cooler	Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler	€89.90 @ Amazon France
Motherboard	Asus - ROG STRIX Z390-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	€229.89 @ TopAchat
Memory	G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€250.74 @ Amazon France
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	€82.76 @ Amazon France
Storage	Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	€134.00 @ Amazon France
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card	€1509.89 @ TopAchat
Case	Cooler Master - MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case	€97.00 @ Amazon France
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€2809.18
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-25 18:41 CEST+0200

 

Up in the top right corner you can change the country.  Here is the French list.  Look a little higher than you wanted to spend maybe.

You also need a power supply.

You can back down to 16GB of RAM.

 

[pepperclipp]

I'll back down the ram a bit yeah.

Also, should I get a 750W for security or a 500W power supply is enough?

Will the thermal be good with an NH D15 or should I go watercooling?

Probably going to overclock the system a bit as well.

 

[VEXICUS]

50 minutes ago, pepperclipp said:

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I'll recommend you to wait fr the ryzen 2 launch. 

[pepperclipp]

Yeah, I'll wait till mid-July but I'm prepping everything.

I'm kidda set on the hardware but now I'm focus on thermals tbh.

[Boinbo]

3 minutes ago, pepperclipp said:

Yeah, I'll wait till mid-July but I'm prepping everything.

I'm kidda set on the hardware but now I'm focus on thermals tbh.

With a budget of 2.5k, u can easily get water-cooling inside that build

[pepperclipp]

Just now, Boinbo said:

With a budget of 2.5k, u can easily get water-cooling inside that build

I know that but I don't know if I should, I've never dealt with watercooling and if the benefits are so slim I probably shouldn't.

But from what I can see online, with that build a watercooling would be the best choice.

[Boinbo]

Just now, pepperclipp said:

I know that but I don't know if I should, I've never dealt with watercooling and if the benefits are so slim I probably shouldn't.

But from what I can see online, with that build a watercooling would be the best choice.

Yeah,.or.you can use a dh-15 from noctua, that things a beast 

[pepperclipp]

2 minutes ago, Boinbo said:

Yeah,.or.you can use a dh-15 from noctua, that things a beast 

Yeah, that's what I used in my original build suggestion but idk how much better a watercooling would be, I've never dealt with it before but I could if needed honestly.

[Boinbo]

Just now, pepperclipp said:

Yeah, that's what I used in my original build suggestion but idk how much better a watercooling would be, I've never dealt with it before but I could if needed honestly.

It depends on what AiO you get, as noctua coolers are actually able to outperform some warercoolers.

[pepperclipp]

2 minutes ago, Boinbo said:

It depends on what AiO you get, as noctua coolers are actually able to outperform some warercoolers.

I would go for a ALPHACOOL EISBAER 240 or a H100I honestly.

 

[Boinbo]

Just now, pepperclipp said:

I would go for a ALPHACOOL EISBAER 240 or a H100I honestly.

 

I've never heard of the former, but the latter sounds like a good choice! Remember to follow the manual,.and check online and ask here if you need help!

[pepperclipp]

1 minute ago, Boinbo said:

I've never heard of the former, but the latter sounds like a good choice! Remember to follow the manual,.and check online and ask here if you need help!

As I said, I'm a newbie in building computer so i'll buy the config built by somebody else, don't want to destroy my 2080Ti

[celerystruct]

6 minutes ago, pepperclipp said:

As I said, I'm a newbie in building computer so i'll buy the config built by somebody else, don't want to destroy my 2080Ti

Just make it yourself. There's tons of guides and it's just plug and play. It's easier then Legos.

 

Your 2080 ti isn't going to blow up cause you make a simple mistake. Linus and every other youtuber drops their components like it's their job and their parts all still work. I've tipped over my case like 3 times while building mine and everything inside was intact and still functioning.

 

Also go with the noctua for cooling. AIOs will really only beat it by a significant amount if you use the large ones that come with three fans.

[pepperclipp]

1 minute ago, celerystruct said:

Just make it yourself. There's tons of guides and it's just plug and play. It's easier then Legos.

 

Your 2080 ti isn't going to blow up cause you make a simple mistake. Linus and every other youtuber drops their components like it's their job and their parts all still work. I've tipped over my case like 3 times while building mine and everything inside was intact and still functioning.

 

Also go with the noctua for cooling. AIOs will really only beat it by a significant amount if you use the large ones that come with three fans.

Thanks for your help, I'll consider that more seriously. Maybe I shouldn't be so scared to build my own.

Also, is the MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case a good option, I've heard it's good airflow wise if it's not that big of a deal maybe I'll go for another case. Also, I was wondering what 144hz monitor should I go for?

[celerystruct]

32 minutes ago, pepperclipp said:

Thanks for your help, I'll consider that more seriously. Maybe I shouldn't be so scared to build my own.

Also, is the MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case a good option, I've heard it's good airflow wise if it's not that big of a deal maybe I'll go for another case. Also, I was wondering what 144hz monitor should I go for?

Case is pretty subjective. If you like that you can get it. If you want to try and save money maybe something else.

 

I'm assuming you're gonna want 1440p since you have a 2080 ti in your build.

Then something like this for ultra wide.

 

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/product/WpJtt6/lg-34uc80-b-340-3440x1440-60hz-monitor-34uc80-b

 

or this for none ultra wide

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/b8VD4D/acer-vg271u-pbmiipx-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-vg271u-pbmiipx

 

You can also just shop around to see what you like and at what price point. Just look to see it has 1440p resolution and is an IPS panel.

[pepperclipp]

I've found a pretty sweet deal I believe :

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/Pdd4r6

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€415.00 @ Amazon France) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (€89.90 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z390-F GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€199.89 @ TopAchat) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€82.76 @ Amazon France) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€134.00 @ Amazon France) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card  (€1327.86 @ Amazon France) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 678C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€189.95 @ Amazon France) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€124.90 @ Corsair) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus - PCE-AC88 PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  (€96.98 @ Amazon France) 
Total: €2661.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-25 21:18 CEST+0200

 

All this for 2080€ instead with a promo code, opened for suggestions

I'm maybe going to switch the case but other than that seems good to me.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, pepperclipp said:

I've found a pretty sweet deal I believe :

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/Pdd4r6

CPU: Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€415.00 @ Amazon France) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (€89.90 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z390-F GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€199.89 @ TopAchat) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€82.76 @ Amazon France) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€134.00 @ Amazon France) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card  (€1327.86 @ Amazon France) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide Series 678C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€189.95 @ Amazon France) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€124.90 @ Corsair) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus - PCE-AC88 PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  (€96.98 @ Amazon France) 
Total: €2661.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-25 21:18 CEST+0200

 

All this for 2080€ instead with a promo code, opened for suggestions

I'm maybe going to switch the case but other than that seems good to me.

The BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4 is a nicer looking cooler. 

 

Not a fan of that board. I would go with a Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro wifi then you can drop the adapter.

 

A single 1TB SSD works out cheaper if you go with something like a Crucial MX500. 

 

That case is a bit overpriced. Also looks a bit of a mess with all the drive cages on show, and if you remove them it doesn't have blanking covers. And cable management behind the motherboard tray isn't that good.

 

You could easily drop down to a 650W psu.

 

You should still wait for Ryzen 3xxx though on the 7th.

[pepperclipp]

Thanks for your assistance, I'll try this, I'm not planning to buy the system before Ryzen, just planning things (to be fair 3k is a lot of money).

Looking for a display, etc.

I don't know about dropping the adapter because I really need good wifi performance since I can't use ethernet at least, for now, I'll have to dig the performance of the integrated wifi solution.

 

Thanks appreciate it.

[pepperclipp]

8 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

The BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4 is a nicer looking cooler. 

Are the perfs as good as the Noctua? It doesn't look good but thermals are so important that I don't care so much

[Boinbo]

7 minutes ago, pepperclipp said:

Are the perfs as good as the Noctua? It doesn't look good but thermals are so important that I don't care so much

The dark rock 4 performs the same as the noctua dh-15 for a bit cheaper.

[pepperclipp]

2 minutes ago, Boinbo said:

The dark rock 4 performs the same as the noctua dh-15 for a bit cheaper.

Thank you @Boinbo, I'll use that, regarding the case in term of practicality what do you advise?

Are wifi motherboards as good as wireless cards (count as a yes if it's in the 50mbs range)?

[Boinbo]

Just now, pepperclipp said:

Thank you @Boinbo, I'll use that, regarding the case in term of practicality what do you advise?

Are wifi motherboards as good as wireless cards (count as a yes if it's in the 50mbs range)?

I'm a bit confused by your first sentence, but as for your second one, I'm not sure. I gtg got swimming.