Budget "gaming" pc

[ItzPapa]

I am looking to buy prebuild budget gaming pc, picked parts based on budget i have,dont have time to build one myself, since i am always busy, was wondering if i picked right parts and would i be able to play "new" games (FC New Dawn, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, FH4 , etc ) atleast on low 30+ fps [even if i had to lower the res to gain fps], plus older games that i couldnt play before.

 

Case: MS Industrial Panthera

GPU: Asus GTX 970 4 GB GDDR5 Mini

CPU: Intel i7 2600 3.4 GHz [not K]

RAM: 8 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz

PSU: Corsair VX550 550W 80+

Storage: SSD Samsung 128gb and 500gb HDD

 

This build would cost me 400 bucks, is it good deal, would i be able to play newer games on 30 fps at least, only games id like to hit 60 fps is Rocket League and PES.

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, ItzPapa said:

This build would cost me 400 bucks, is it good deal,

I'd try to haggle it down but not a terrible price, it has an SSD and decent GPU. It has no upgrade path, however, with a really old CPU and crap PSU.

 

4 minutes ago, ItzPapa said:

would i be able to play newer games on 30 fps at least

I think 60 fps is realistic for this rig.

[Anghammarad]

If you got a Z chipset Motherboard, which allows overclocking, try to get an I5 2500k and overclock that, with good cooling. It will give you more performance, even when losing hyperthreading.

 

If it is even a Z77 chipset, try to get an I5 3570k.

 

[GoldenLag]

Just now, Anghammarad said:

It will give you more performance, even when losing hyperthreading.

Considering the struggle of quadcores with no ht. That sounds like a "meh" idea

[Anghammarad]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

Considering the struggle of quadcores with no ht. That sounds like a "meh" idea

Well I think 4 real cores with 4+ GHz will give you more performance then additional 4 HT cores.

 

There was a video by JayzTwoCents not long ago testing with HT and without. The games tested were running the same. So an increase in GHz will bring more in this case. That for, a K CPU without HT may still be the better choice. 

[ItzPapa]

6 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

It has no upgrade path,

i am aware as old build, wouldnt rely on future upgrades, however i am looking for pc that can handle current "new" games that came out, and older games like FC 4, FH 3, ACs and etc, not rly planning to rely on this pc to handle new games that will be coming out.
I chose SSD over another 8 gb of ram, since most of new games runs fine on 8 gb.

[GoldenLag]

5 minutes ago, Anghammarad said:

Well I think 4 real cores with 4+ GHz will give you more performance then additional 4 HT cores.

 

There was a video by JayzTwoCents not long ago testing with HT and without

And hardwareunboxed unboxed (an actual good benchmarker) also tested with and without HT.

 

And in some games it can be devestating

[star_pilot475]

For $400, this is awful. (In my opinion) If you wanna try building a pc, for $50 more this has a good upgrade path, and could play new games relatively well.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$64.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$75.61 @ OutletPC
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$50.98 @ Newegg
Storage	Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$29.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card	$164.99 @ Newegg
Case	Corsair - SPEC-04 ATX Mid Tower Case	$29.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$36.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$523.43
	Mail-in rebates	-$70.00
	Total	$453.43
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-26 10:31 EDT-0400

 

Plus, if you want for zen 2, you'll see a flood of used Ryzen chips enter the market for cheap...

Edited May 26, 2019 by star_pilot475

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, ItzPapa said:

i am aware as old build, wouldnt rely on future upgrades, however i am looking for pc that can handle current "new" games that came out, and older games like FC 4, FH 3, ACs and etc, not rly planning to rely on this pc to handle new games that will be coming out.
I chose SSD over another 8 gb of ram, since most of new games runs fine on 8 gb.

you can get a ryzen setup for a similar price like @star_pilot475 mentioned. You are choosing parts for this but not building yourself, what are the prices you're getting on this? who's building it?

[ItzPapa]

Like i mentioned above, i am buying pre built system because i dont have time nor money to buy/order parts and build pc myself, i am fully aware about better prices on amazon, or newegg, however shipping and income taxes would cost me half of that pc/parts 

[star_pilot475]

Just now, ItzPapa said:

Like i mentioned above, i am buying pre built system because i dont have time nor money to buy/order parts and build pc myself, i am fully aware about better prices on amazon, or newegg, however shipping and income taxes would cost me half of that pc/parts 

Try Craigslist or whatever your local equivalent is! Chances are you'll find better parts for less than what you’re paying for this prebuilt. 

[ItzPapa]

 

3 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

you can get a ryzen setup for a similar price like @star_pilot475 mentioned. You are choosing parts for this but not building yourself, what are the prices you're getting on this? who's building it?

Buying it from a guy that i know for a long time, he owns shop selling pc parts, and other stuff, he let me pick parts and he would build it for me, since i am busy 10-12 h a day. Buying parts outside of EU is hard because import taxes and prices here are high for our standards

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, ItzPapa said:

Like i mentioned above, i am buying pre built system because i dont have time nor money to buy/order parts and build pc myself, i am fully aware about better prices on amazon, or newegg, however shipping and income taxes would cost me half of that pc/parts 

well then the rig is fine. $400 USD is not what I'd pay but since you didn't list your regional currency it doesn't matter.

[ItzPapa]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

well then the rig is fine. $400 USD is not what I'd pay but since you didn't list your regional currency it doesn't matter.

We are using BAM
Most of parts that would cost lets say 200 bucks on amazon or somewhere else, here it would be 250-300 lowest, thats why its hard to find best bang for buck

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, ItzPapa said:

We are using BAM
Most of parts that would cost lets say 200 bucks on amazon or somewhere else, here it would be 250-300 lowest, thats why its hard to find best bang for buck

In that case the $400 price tag is a lot more appealing.

 

Therefore, the only thing I recommend is getting a slightly better PSU like a Corsair CX or CXM, and you can save by getting a 450 watt instead of 550. A good PSU is important in any system you care about.

[ItzPapa]

2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

In that case the $400 price tag is a lot more appealing.

 

Therefore, the only thing I recommend is getting a slightly better PSU like a Corsair CX or CXM, and you can save by getting a 450 watt instead of 550. A good PSU is important in any system you care about.

As i did a little bit of research, lowest price i could find for those parts would be
50 bucks for cpu
20 for ssd
20 for hdd
60 for a decent mob
150 for a gpu
30 for a psu
25 for the case
30 for ram
that would leave 20-30 bucks for "hands" 
I was more worried about gpu being mini itx, i heard they have problems with overheating.

[Fasauceome]

Just now, ItzPapa said:

I was more worried about gpu being mini itx, i heard they have problems with overheating.

not really, ITX cards have inferior cooling but that only prevents GPU boost from increasing the speed more, as opposed to overheating.

[ItzPapa]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

not really, ITX cards have inferior cooling but that only prevents GPU boost from increasing the speed more, as opposed to overheating.

As i am not looking to MAX out on everything , playing on medium high, if my pc can support it its fine, but as long as game runs on low i am good with it, probably sounds weird for someone, but i am used on playing with 25 fps in some games. I was going for 2600k cpu  in first place but he told me he sold out and that he has 2600 for a bit lower price

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, ItzPapa said:

As i am not looking to MAX out on everything , playing on medium high, if my pc can support it its fine, but as long as game runs on low i am good with it, probably sounds weird for someone, but i am used on playing with 25 fps in some games. I was going for 2600k cpu  in first place but he told me he sold out and that he has 2600 for a bit lower price

The 2600k is the same as the 2600 if you don't overclock, so there would have been no point really. Like you said, you're not maxing it out so better you get the non k. The 970 will pull off 60 fps with that i7 though, my brother uses an i5 7400 and a 970 and while the 2600 is older, it has a much higher clock speed so it shouldn't be far behind. His rig does 60 fps in most games, pretty stable, except for really CPU intensive titles like For Honor.

[ItzPapa]

8 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

The 2600k is the same as the 2600 if you don't overclock, so there would have been no point really. Like you said, you're not maxing it out so better you get the non k. The 970 will pull off 60 fps with that i7 though, my brother uses an i5 7400 and a 970 and while the 2600 is older, it has a much higher clock speed so it shouldn't be far behind. His rig does 60 fps in most games, pretty stable, except for really CPU intensive titles like For Honor.

Thats nice to hear that i will be able to get 30-60 fps in those games, thanks for your time and help man