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So im planning a new build for later this year, and I already have the case I want to use, the H500. Here's my part list

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Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $409.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Noctua - NH-U12A 60.09 CFM CPU Cooler $99.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $129.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $119.99 @ Newegg Business
Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $79.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $44.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card $478.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case $69.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $59.89 @ OutletPC
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1513.52
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1493.52
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-02 22:47 EDT-0400  

 Ive been hearing that the h500 does not have good airflow, and that with a 2070 it'll become an oven. After the watercooling vid by LTT, I decided to use that cooler instead of an AIO. This kind of makes everything airflow based on a case that apparently does not have much of it. So, I need to know what to do. It would be nice to keep my current case, but if you think I have to switch cases, I need one that can match the aesthetic of this one. Or, should I get some nice case fans, would that work?

Thanks

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AMD is releasing new CPU's and possibly GPU's in a few months, so your build may need tweaking.  Id' wait until you're within a month of buying it all before planning like that.

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Aesthetically similar cases with good airflow? NZXT H700, Fractal Define C/S/R6/S2, Corsair 270R/275R, 400C

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

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If I may make a few suggestions....

 

If you're gonna get a Noctua cooler, get the better one that's actually cheaper

Also 8700K, $50 cheaper, performs about the same in games despite 2 less cores. Unless you're gonna be doing workstation that needs high core count, I can't see why to pay Intel $50 more. You also get 12 threads (hyper-threading) which they removed for the 9700K

Also Gigabyte Aorus board, these Aorus boards are probably the best bang-for-buck Z390 boards now

Get a better PSU, with the budget freed up from those 2 items I got you a fully modular MWE Gold, 650W too.

 

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($359.99 @ Walmart) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.85 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($119.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($478.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MWE Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($77.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1481.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-02 23:24 EDT-0400

 

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I agree with bigrom quite a bit. Get a 8700k. Also you really dont need 3200MHz ram, 2666 is enough imo. Then with saving from both of those get a better psu. Also although you can easily get away with that motherboard I would recommend going to at least the $200 level. I personally like asus but the aurus boards do seem to quite the steal plus its always nice matching stuff. 

 

I would take linus's video with a grain of salt, blender stresses the cpu way more than gaming will and if you have headphones on you are not going to be hearing fans with a noctua or aio. 

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13 hours ago, Apex_X said:

So im planning a new build for later this year, and I already have the case I want to use, the H500. Here's my part list

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $409.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Noctua - NH-U12A 60.09 CFM CPU Cooler $99.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $129.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $119.99 @ Newegg Business
Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $79.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $44.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card $478.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case $69.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $59.89 @ OutletPC
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1513.52
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1493.52
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-02 22:47 EDT-0400  

 Ive been hearing that the h500 does not have good airflow, and that with a 2070 it'll become an oven. After the watercooling vid by LTT, I decided to use that cooler instead of an AIO. This kind of makes everything airflow based on a case that apparently does not have much of it. So, I need to know what to do. It would be nice to keep my current case, but if you think I have to switch cases, I need one that can match the aesthetic of this one. Or, should I get some nice case fans, would that work?

Thanks

 

Other than the psu this is a pretty good build. If you are concerned about improving airflow you could add a second 120mm front intake fan. There are cases with better airflow, but I don't think one is really needed and finding a decent one in white would be difficult.

 

The cpu cooler is quite good and has the advantage of not interfering with the glitzy Trident Z RGB memory.

 

If budget allows you might consider SeaSonic FOCUS Plus 550 Gold or Corsair RM550x (2018) in place of the CX550M.

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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24 minutes ago, brob said:

If budget allows you might consider SeaSonic FOCUS Plus 550 Gold or Corsair RM550x (2018) in place of the CX550M.

Ok, i'll go for the RM550 instead. Budget does have some wiggle room, since ill just be taking my storage from my current build, and I already have the case.

13 hours ago, BigRom said:

Also 8700K, $50 cheaper, performs about the same in games despite 2 less cores. Unless you're gonna be doing workstation that needs high core count, I can't see why to pay Intel $50 more. You also get 12 threads (hyper-threading) which they removed for the 9700K

I wanted to get the 9700K for the high overclocking, and I plan to also do some vid editing for a friend of mine. Also, would more cores be better than more threads for more applications open?

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17 hours ago, Apex_X said:

So im planning a new build for later this year, and I already have the case I want to use, the H500. Here's my part list

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $409.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Noctua - NH-U12A 60.09 CFM CPU Cooler $99.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 GAMING X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $129.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $119.99 @ Newegg Business
Storage Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $79.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $44.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card $478.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case NZXT - H500 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case $69.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $59.89 @ OutletPC
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1513.52
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1493.52
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-02 22:47 EDT-0400  

 Ive been hearing that the h500 does not have good airflow, and that with a 2070 it'll become an oven. After the watercooling vid by LTT, I decided to use that cooler instead of an AIO. This kind of makes everything airflow based on a case that apparently does not have much of it. So, I need to know what to do. It would be nice to keep my current case, but if you think I have to switch cases, I need one that can match the aesthetic of this one. Or, should I get some nice case fans, would that work?

Thanks

Why not grab a Dark Rock Pro 4 for a few bucks savings? (And hey, it's not the ugly ass brown!)

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/F3gzK8/be-quiet-dark-rock-pro-4-505-cfm-cpu-cooler-bk022

 

As for the airflow, the case has sufficient grilling for intake. It supports either 2x120mm or 2x140mm fans for intake, and supplies 2x120mm exhausts... So really it's got decent airflow, you just need to grab a couple of intake fans.

 

2x140mm intakes plus a horizontal CPU cooler like that, a blower GPU, and dual exhaust routes is PLENTY of airflow. Not to mention in that setup, it's routing directly past your CPU to exit.

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3 hours ago, Apex_X said:

...Also, would more cores be better than more threads for more applications open?

Applications do not necessarily use cpu resources when open. Most applications spend significantly more time blocked waiting for an i/o completion or idling than actually using the cpu.

 

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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3 hours ago, trevb0t said:

Why not grab a Dark Rock Pro 4 for a few bucks savings? (And hey, it's not the ugly ass brown!)

Sure, seems about the same performance wise, also not brown. Have you seen their really tacky chromax fans lol, they prob perform really well but they just still look so crappy rip. The only thing im kinda worried about is my cooler canoodling with my ram.

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3 minutes ago, Apex_X said:

Sure, seems about the same performance wise, also not brown. Have you seen their really tacky chromax fans lol, they prob perform really well but they just still look so crappy rip. The only thing im kinda worried about is my cooler canoodling with my ram.

I can't make any guarantees, but here is a reference photo... Looks like it sits right on top. Just don't buy sticks with a super tall spreader.

 

In the tier lists, the Dark Rock Pro 4 comes highly recommended. I would totally get one :P

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1 minute ago, trevb0t said:

I can't make any guarantees, but here is a reference photo... Looks like it sits right on top. Just don't buy sticks with a super tall spreader.

 

In the tier lists, the Dark Rock Pro 4 comes highly recommended. I would totally get one :P

41Eil0C4noL.jpg

Lmao that almost exactly matches the parts im gonna buy. Thx

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