BUILD MY FIRST PC

[DX547]

im building my first pc and i wanted to know if this build as any major flaws 
if not what might i could upgrade if the specs aren't appropriate 

 

 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XcYwBb

[Slottr]

Heres some changes, make sure to quote me when you reply if you have any questions

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$164.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$76.21 @ OutletPC
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$104.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$69.95 @ Adorama
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$44.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card	$309.99 @ B&H
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case	$42.41 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$52.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$896.31
	Mail-in rebates	-$30.00
	Total	$866.31
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-11 18:33 EDT-0400

 

 

[jerubedo]

16 minutes ago, DX547 said:

im building my first pc and i wanted to know if this build as any major flaws 
if not what might i could upgrade if the specs aren't appropriate 

 

 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XcYwBb

I'm assuming this is a gaming build. Just a few notes, then:

 

-Replace the S12 PSU with a CXM for the same price. The S12 has had some notable issues.

-Do NOT go with single channel RAM. Go dual channel. There are major performance gains.

- You don't want to pair 2400MHz RAM with Ryzen. Try for 3000MHz as a sweet spot. Also 16 GB would be preferable if you could fit it in the budget.

- For a few dollars more you can go with the 9400F instead for some major performance increases.

-250GB SSD will fill up FAST. I'd go with a 500 at minimum.

 

Here's a revised build for $65 more, but it has massive performance gains. I kept your choice of tower and GPU:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor	$169.90 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 UD ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$109.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$79.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$69.95 @ Adorama
Video Card	MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card	$349.99 @ B&H
Case	NOX - HUMMER TG RGB ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$52.98 @ Newegg
Operating System	Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit	$119.99 @ Dell
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$972.79
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$952.79
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-11 18:35 EDT-0400

 

Here's some relevant videos:

 

9400F vs 2600:

 

Single Channel vs Dual Channel:

 

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

2 hours ago, DX547 said:

im building my first pc and i wanted to know if this build as any major flaws 
if not what might i could upgrade if the specs aren't appropriate 

 

 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XcYwBb

Judging from the nox case, you're not from the us. Which country are you in?

[trevb0t]

5 hours ago, jerubedo said:

- For a few dollars more you can go with the 9400F instead for some major performance increases.

The 9400F isn't hyperthreaded, so if he does any CPU heavy work that is a step down. Am I wrong? 

I wouldn't sacrifice 6 threads for a slight upgrade to single core performance personally.

 

As for the dual channel RAM, 2x8GB at 3000 is about the sweet spot. It's what your CPU wants. If 8GB is all that you can do, then 2x4GB will perform stronger with Ryzen than 1x8GB.

 

[jerubedo]

9 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

The 9400F isn't hyperthreaded, so if he does any CPU heavy work that is a step down. Am I wrong? 

You aren't wrong, but that's why I prefaced it with "assuming it's a gaming build." For a machine dedicated to gaming the 9400F wins by a wide margin. I'd even recommend it over the 9600K.

 

People also put a lot of stock in threads vs cores. The on-paper theoretical best performance of hyperthreading is a 50% gain at most. In real life scenarios it's actually closer to a 30% gain in performance at most. That's why the 9700K beats the 8700K in almost every benchmark save for a few very specific applications.

 

And even in some productivity, the 9400F will still beat the 2600: Adobe Premiere Pro, Photoshop, actually anything adobe, CAD, etc. So to say that more threads benefit "productivity" is highly subjective as it really depends on the application.

[DX547]

12 hours ago, jerubedo said:

I'm assuming this is a gaming build. Just a few notes, then:

 

-Replace the S12 PSU with a CXM for the same price. The S12 has had some notable issues.

-Do NOT go with single channel RAM. Go dual channel. There are major performance gains.

- You don't want to pair 2400MHz RAM with Ryzen. Try for 3000MHz as a sweet spot. Also 16 GB would be preferable if you could fit it in the budget.

- For a few dollars more you can go with the 9400F instead for some major performance increases.

-250GB SSD will fill up FAST. I'd go with a 500 at minimum.

 

Here's a revised build for $65 more, but it has massive performance gains. I kept your choice of tower and GPU:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i5-9400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor	$169.90 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 UD ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$109.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$79.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$69.95 @ Adorama
Video Card	MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card	$349.99 @ B&H
Case	NOX - HUMMER TG RGB ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$52.98 @ Newegg
Operating System	Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit	$119.99 @ Dell
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$972.79
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$952.79
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-11 18:35 EDT-0400

 

Here's some relevant videos:

 

9400F vs 2600:

 

Single Channel vs Dual Channel:

 

 

I wanted to thank u for giving me the advices and the new build. I did learn somethings from this but I'm still a bit confused about the motherboards and the ssd (I was going to get a t2 Hard-drive with it ) 

 

[DX547]

9 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

Judging from the nox case, you're not from the us. Which country are you in?

From Portugal 

[jerubedo]

2 minutes ago, DX547 said:

I wanted to thank u for giving me the advices and the new build. I did learn somethings from this but I'm still a bit confused about the motherboards and the ssd (I was going to get a t2 Hard-drive with it ) 

 

Any time!

 

You can absolutely still add a 2TB HDD. I'd still recommend a 500GB SSD this way you can install a few games on it. Load times will be so much better on an SSD vs and HDD.

 

As for the motherboard, did you have any specific question? I can tell you the Z390 UD is a great board for 9th Gen i5s.

[Herman Mcpootis]

6 minutes ago, DX547 said:

From Portugal 

the lists provided by others will be useless there. get a B450 Pro4/K4/steel legend or tomahawk/B450-A Pro/gaming plus instead, some 3000mhz ram will help with performance, and if the crucial P1/HP EX900 is similarly priced or the crucial MX500 is cheaper then get that instead. no reviews on the s12iii yet so get something else.

anything from tier B here will be fine.

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/1627-core-i5-8400-vs-ryzen-5-2600/page8.html the ryzen 2600 performs a bit worse on average, but you get a clearer upgrade path and overclocking will help to even things out.