Need help finding new graphics card

[Dboy352]

Ok so let me preface this by saying I know my hardware is old but can't really upgrade it at this time lol. This is the last system I built back in like 2011 and have no idea what new harder will work etc. The hardware I have is

 

Asus rog crosshair is formula motherboard

Specs here: https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/CROSSHAIR_IV_FORMULA/specifications/

 

AMD phenom ii x6 1090t (unsure if black edition or not)

 

8gb of I believe corsair dominator ddr3 memory

 

750 watt evga power supply

 

So the question I have is I need a new graphics card. I can't remember what I had in it before it's been about 2 years since it's been out. But I need something compatible, would like 2 displays, and not much gaming if any mainly for some graphics and video editing. 

 

I can't go and spend an arm and a leg, but I honestly dont even know where to look be cause when I look for pcie 2.0 x16 and pcie 2.0 x8 the most I'm seeing are 2gb cards for like $250 which seems insane to me and I dont know if any newer pcie 3.0 will work or not. Any help would be much appreciated. 

[Fasauceome]

6 minutes ago, Dboy352 said:

I dont know if any newer pcie 3.0 will work or not. Any help would be much appreciated. 

3.0 works just fine. Get an RX 570 for the time being, or a used R9 290. How overclocked is your CPU?

 

What's your current GPU? Just curious.

Edited April 9, 2019 by fasauceome

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4 minutes ago, Dboy352 said:

But I need something compatible, would like 2 displays, and not much gaming if any mainly for some graphics and video editing. 

can I assume no gaming? what sort of games?

if you just want dual screen, look into used market, and basically anything cheap for $10~15 will do (2x display out)

[Dboy352]

Currently CPU is not overclocked at all, no GPU currently. I can't remember my last GPU but I could have sworn it was like and r7 something or r9 something. I got it somewhere around 7 years ago probably by now. 

 

And if I game at all it would probably be like Alex, fortnite etc. I mainly game on console and would eventually like to switch to PC later on but can't really upgrade to it now. 

[Fasauceome]

5 minutes ago, Dboy352 said:

Currently CPU is not overclocked at all, no GPU currently. I can't remember my last GPU but I could have sworn it was like and r7 something or r9 something. I got it somewhere around 7 years ago probably by now. 

 

And if I game at all it would probably be like Alex, fortnite etc. I mainly game on console and would eventually like to switch to PC later on but can't really upgrade to it now. 

If you want cheapo, I would recommend an R9 280 probably, they can be found at pretty decent prices.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/XFX-AMD-R9-280-3GB-PCI-Express/333149173658?epid=175623428&hash=item4d913cf79a%3Ag%3ArAsAAOSwIxVcq3AG&LH_BIN=1&frcectupt=true

For light gaming at an affordable price, not bad at all.

 

Also, make sure to quote people so they see your responses.

[Dboy352]

Just now, fasauceome said:

If you want cheapo, I would recommend an R9 280 probably, they can be found at pretty decent prices.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/XFX-AMD-R9-280-3GB-PCI-Express/333149173658?epid=175623428&hash=item4d913cf79a%3Ag%3ArAsAAOSwIxVcq3AG&LH_BIN=1&frcectupt=true

For light gaming at an affordable price, not bad at all.

 

Also, make sure to quote people so they see your responses.

Thanks for the tip. Now another question, I was just looking at the rx 570 and it says it has an 8 pin connector but I'm pretty sure mine doesnt. I just looked and I was wrong, it's an antec 900 watt power supply that's not modular. It has a bunch of sata connectors and the old 4 pin connectors from the days of ide lol. Are there adapters to run an 8 pin to the card if needed. 

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, Dboy352 said:

Thanks for the tip. Now another question, I was just looking at the rx 570 and it says it has an 8 pin connector but I'm pretty sure mine doesnt. I just looked and I was wrong, it's an antec 900 watt power supply that's not modular. It has a bunch of sata connectors and the old 4 pin connectors from the days of ide lol. Are there adapters to run an 8 pin to the card if needed. 

A power supply so old it literally has no PCIe connectors? You should also consider spending some money on a decent power supply, because if it's that old there's no use in it anymore, disaster waiting to happen.

 

Rule of thumb: never use a PSU that doesn't have the connectors for the job. If you find yourself using adapters to power your expensive new graphics card, it's asking for trouble. Additionally, we have a tier list. Click the PSU in my signature to go there and have a point of reference for good power supplies.

[Dboy352]

4 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

A power supply so old it literally has no PCIe connectors? You should also consider spending some money on a decent power supply, because if it's that old there's no use in it anymore, disaster waiting to happen.

 

Rule of thumb: never use a PSU that doesn't have the connectors for the job. If you find yourself using adapters to power your expensive new graphics card, it's asking for trouble. Additionally, we have a tier list. Click the PSU in my signature to go there and have a point of reference for good power supplies.

Ok never mind, I just pulled all the cables out and it has a bunch of I pin pcie connectors so I'm good there. I just looked up some comparisons between the 570 and 280x and the 570 seemed like it performed a little better so I think that may be the route I go. Thank you so much for your help. 

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, Dboy352 said:

Ok never mind, I just pulled all the cables out and it has a bunch of I pin pcie connectors so I'm good there. I just looked up some comparisons between the 570 and 280x and the 570 seemed like it performed a little better so I think that may be the route I go. Thank you so much for your help. 

The 570 also consumes a little less power so hey it's a nice bonus

[Dboy352]

2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

The 570 also consumes a little less power so hey it's a nice bonus

I did find an 8gb 580 locally for $120 

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, Dboy352 said:

I did find an 8gb 580 locally for $120 

That's a somewhat good deal for a 580, what model is it?

[Dboy352]

Just now, fasauceome said:

That's a good deal for a 580, what model is it?

Xfx

[Dboy352]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

That's a good deal for a 580, what model is it?

I think he only used the hdmi port too, it still has covers over the 3 dp

[Fasauceome]

Just now, Dboy352 said:

Xfx

Ok, could be better. They go for around $100 on eBay.

 

Also, your CPU is very old, it would probably not allow that graphics card to reach its full potential because it wouldn't be able to keep up with its own job in gaming, so if you want to avoid spending money on a bottleneck, I think the 570 isn't so bad.

[Dboy352]

Just now, fasauceome said:

Ok, could be better. They go for around $100 on eBay.

 

Also, your CPU is very old, it would probably not allow that graphics card to reach its full potential because it wouldn't be able to keep up with its own job in gaming, so if you want to avoid spending money on a bottleneck, I think the 570 isn't so bad.

Yeah I'm eventually going to upgrade everything, this is more for editing graphics and videos than anything else. My laptop can't do it anymore. If I game on it at all it would only be lite to get used to keyboard and mouse instead of a controller. I'm not sure if it will bottleneck editing videos though. I'm not doing anything crazy though, everything I did on my laptop was done in 720 because it couldn't handle 1080. Laptop is an old 2nd gen i5 2520m with 4 GB ram and Intel hd3000 GPU so I figured the desktop could handle at least 720 lol

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, Dboy352 said:

I'm not sure if it will bottleneck editing videos though

Depends on the software, the timeline scrubbing will not be amazing on the Phenom but it's loads better than your laptop at least. The 580 will be helpful in video exports and renders though, and an 8GB card will be good for you. Plus upgrading soon means no bottleneck, so in that case, you will have situations where a 580 comes in handy. Is it an 8GB model that you were looking at?

[Dboy352]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

Depends on the software, the timeline scrubbing will not be amazing on the Phenom but it's loads better than your laptop at least. The 580 will be helpful in video exports and renders though, and an 8GB card will be good for you. Plus upgrading soon means no bottleneck, so in that case, you will have situations where a 580 comes in handy. Is it an 8GB model that you were looking at?

Yeah it's the 8gb model. Guy says he only used it a few months and got a whole new system

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, Dboy352 said:

Yeah it's the 8gb model. Guy says he only used it a few months and got a whole new system

then I say it's not a bad buy at all, try to haggle him down to $115 or $110

[Dboy352]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

then I say it's not a bad buy at all, try to haggle him down to $115 or $110

I sent him a message just waiting on a reply. It's a gts card as well if that matters. I was looking in n another thread and it had the xfx GTrs and gts in the high end category. 

[Fasauceome]

Just now, Dboy352 said:

I sent him a message just waiting on a reply. It's a gts card as well if that matters. I was looking in n another thread and it had the xfx GTrs and gts in the high end category. 

The "high end" XFX models have much to be desired, it's good for an XFX card but thankfully it's still reasonably priced. It's no Strix but it more than gets the job done for 1080p gaming.

[Dboy352]

2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

The "high end" XFX models have much to be desired, it's good for an XFX card but thankfully it's still reasonably priced. It's no Strix but it more than gets the job done for 1080p gaming.

Yeah hopefully one day I'll have a new rog board, strix 2080 and like a 9900k but you know that will be when it's all 10 years old and can get all 3 under $1000 (maybe) lol

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, Dboy352 said:

Yeah hopefully one day I'll have a new rog board, strix 2080 and like a 9900k but you know that will be when it's all 10 years old and can get all 3 under $1000 (maybe) lol

ROG boards are overpriced, if you want good value for a proper VRM then an Aorus board does quite nicely, and the 9900k is also pretty overkill for almost anything.

 

And hey, wait long enough and new AMD CPUs will be out, they're due in a couple months or so and they're likely to be an excellent value.

[Dboy352]

16 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

ROG boards are overpriced, if you want good value for a proper VRM then an Aorus board does quite nicely, and the 9900k is also pretty overkill for almost anything.

 

And hey, wait long enough and new AMD CPUs will be out, they're due in a couple months or so and they're likely to be an excellent value.

I will have to keep that in mind. Honestly Ive always had Intel computers. Back in the day I've built around 10 different Intel computers and then built this AMD I have now and got out of it all be cause I had so many issues. First it would overheat within minutes of it being on, took all the heat speaders and heat sinks off, reaplied thermal compound and still didn't help, had to rma the board. Got the new one and couldn't get the memory to read (even though it was 16 GB that was on the qvl) ended up having to go with 8gb not on the qvl for it to work. Then I couldnt get any os installed, tried windows, linux, ubuntu and nothing would Install. Finally got windows 10 installed. And here I am today confused with how much everything has changed within the last few years lol. 

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, Dboy352 said:

it would overheat within minutes of it being on

thank goodness AMD CPUs are actually cooler than Intel.

 

2 minutes ago, Dboy352 said:

Got the new one and couldn't get the memory to read (even though it was 16 GB that was on the qvl) ended up having to go with 8gb not on the qvl for it to work.

These days they've done away with ram "for AMD" which is a huge burden gone.

 

3 minutes ago, Dboy352 said:

Then I couldnt get any os installed

Kinda sounds like the specific motherboard had issues. And Asus is known for pretty bad RMA service so likely your first RMA accomplished nothing, I had to send a product 4 times for them to fix it.

 

Aorus kicks ass in terms of value on the AMD motherboards as well, honestly this generation I find myself recommending Gigabyte all over the place.

[Dboy352]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

thank goodness AMD CPUs are actually cooler than Intel.

 

These days they've done away with ram "for AMD" which is a huge burden gone.

 

Kinda sounds like the specific motherboard had issues. And Asus is known for pretty bad RMA service so likely your first RMA accomplished nothing, I had to send a product 4 times for them to fix it.

 

Aorus kicks ass in terms of value on the AMD motherboards as well, honestly this generation I find myself recommending Gigabyte all over the place.

Yeah I've honestly heard nothing but good things about gigabyte and msi. But yeah this one idk what the issue was but I was glad when it finally booted and I didn't feel like I wasted do much money lol