Thoughts on first time build

[LordKoen]

Hello,

 

I am going to build a new computer soon, it is the first time I will be building one and here is what I have come up with, what do you guys think?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	£144.98 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler	AMD - Wraith Max 55.78 CFM CPU Cooler	£29.99 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	£89.99 @ Amazon UK
Memory	G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	£120.78 @ Aria PC
Storage	Western Digital - Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	£113.49 @ Box Limited
Video Card	Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB PULSE Video Card	£293.03 @ More Computers
Case	Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case	£77.96 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	EVGA - B3 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	£68.98 @ CCL Computers
Case Fan	be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 120 51.4 CFM 120mm Fan	£7.99 @ Novatech
Case Fan	be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 120 51.4 CFM 120mm Fan	£7.99 @ Novatech
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£955.18
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-03 21:30 BST+0100

[BurstHearts]

Except if you plan on upgrading from 16gb of ram to 32gb i would recommend you to get 4x4 instead of 2x8 (streamer, editing or 3d render or Virtual machines=Yes, probably need 32gb. streame editing or 3d render or Virtual machinesr=no, don't need 32gb)

[MeatFeastMan]

It's a very good build. You won't need the wraith max because the 2600 comes with a decent cooler so I removed that to save a bit. I also saved £10 on the ssd (The sandisk one is probably better than Western Digital anyways) and changed the ram to corsair vengeance to save a bit more. Although if you want rgb be sure to change it back. I also upgraded the psu with the money I saved as that psu isn't ideal for vega :

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	£144.98 @ Aria PC
Motherboard	MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	£89.99 @ Amazon UK
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	£93.10 @ Box Limited
Storage	SanDisk - SSD PLUS 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	£109.98 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB PULSE Video Card	£293.03 @ More Computers
Case	Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case	£77.96 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	£75.15 @ Ebuyer
Case Fan	be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 120 51.4 CFM 120mm Fan	£7.99 @ Novatech
Case Fan	be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 120 51.4 CFM 120mm Fan	£7.99 @ Novatech
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£900.17
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-03 21:39 BST+0100

I should also mention there is a vega 56 strix model and a powercolor red dragon model for £20 more so that would be worth taking a look if you want a proper 3 fan vega card.

 

[LordKoen]

3 minutes ago, MeatFeastMan said:

It's a very good build. You won't need the wraith max because the 2600 comes with a decent cooler so I removed that to save a bit. I also saved £10 on the ssd (The sandisk one is probably better than Western Digital anyways) and changed the ram to corsair vengeance to save a bit more. Although if you want rgb be sure to change it back. I also upgraded the psu with the money I saved as that psu isn't ideal for vega :

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	£144.98 @ Aria PC
Motherboard	MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	£89.99 @ Amazon UK
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	£93.10 @ Box Limited
Storage	SanDisk - SSD PLUS 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	£109.98 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8 GB PULSE Video Card	£293.03 @ More Computers
Case	Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case	£77.96 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	£75.15 @ Ebuyer
Case Fan	be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 120 51.4 CFM 120mm Fan	£7.99 @ Novatech
Case Fan	be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 120 51.4 CFM 120mm Fan	£7.99 @ Novatech
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£900.17
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-03 21:39 BST+0100

I should also mention there is a vega 56 strix model and a powercolor red dragon model for £20 more so that would be worth taking a look if you want a proper 3 fan vega card.

 

So is the wraith stealth that comes included good enough for the 2600? Some places said it was not so that is why I thought maybe I should get the wraith max. And the Sandisk SSD is a 2.5 inch while the Western Digital was an M.2, wouldn't that make it better and worth it for £10 more?

 

The PSU change seems fair enough, is 550 enough though? And okay I will take a look into the different Vega 56 models. 

 

Thank you for replying

 

[Fasauceome]

Just now, LordKoen said:

So is the wraith stealth that comes included good enough for the 2600? Some places said it was not so that is why I thought maybe I should get the wraith max. And the Sandisk SSD is a 2.5 inch while the Western Digital was an M.2, wouldn't that make it better and worth it for £10 more?

 

The PSU change seems fair enough, is 550 enough though? And okay I will take a look into the different Vega 56 models. 

 

Thank you for replying

 

The wraith stealth is great for stock performance, although that price for the max is not so bad, so if you wanted that OC to like 3.9 or 4.0 GHz it's not a bad buy

 

alternative PSU choice:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/zBfmP6/bitfenix-formula-gold-550w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-bp-fm550ulag-7r

This is a good unit, a little underrated because of the non-modular design but quite good.

[MeatFeastMan]

Just now, LordKoen said:

So is the wraith stealth that comes included good enough for the 2600? Some places said it was not so that is why I thought maybe I should get the wraith max. And the Sandisk SSD is a 2.5 inch while the Western Digital was an M.2, wouldn't that make it better and worth it for £10 more?

 

The PSU change seems fair enough, is 550 enough though? And okay I will take a look into the different Vega 56 models. 

 

Thank you for replying

 

Of course it's good enough otherwise they wouldn't pair it with the 2600. It actually allows for a minor overclock too if you ever wanted to do that.

 

The 2.5inch and M.2 thing basically just means a different form factor. That's all really. Western Digital are known for pretty much being a very budget oriented storage brand. Sandisk are sort of in the mid-high end of the spectrum on that, so I'd assume the SSD Plus has the advantage.

 

550w is enough, if you are considering a major overclock then maybe it's worth spending an extra £10 or so for the 650w model instead.

[GoldenLag]

16 minutes ago, BurstHearts said:

Except if you plan on upgrading from 16gb of ram to 32gb i would recommend you to get 4x4 instead of 2x8 (streamer, editing or 3d render or Virtual machines=Yes, probably need 32gb. streame editing or 3d render or Virtual machinesr=no, don't need 32gb)

wHY?

 

getting something else than a 2*8GB config is silly for 16 GB. not only it more expencive to run 4*4GB you risk loosing Ram overclocking potential. something that is more or a concern with Ryzen (though minimal at this point in time)

 

 

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£121.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£89.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Predator RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£104.49 @ Ebuyer) 
Storage: Gigabyte - UD PRO 256 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£35.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£48.89 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8 GB Video Card  (£386.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black/White) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£49.00 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 11 CM 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£69.65 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £906.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-03 22:00 BST+0100

 

here i fixed up the build a bit. id highly suggest picking this up instead. 

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/ynhKHx/gigabyte-ud-pro-512gb-25-solid-state-drive-gp-gstfs30512gttd

 

if you wanna spend a bit extra. pick up this SSD instead of the one mentioned in the build above. 

[LordKoen]

15 minutes ago, MeatFeastMan said:

Of course it's good enough otherwise they wouldn't pair it with the 2600. It actually allows for a minor overclock too if you ever wanted to do that.

 

The 2.5inch and M.2 thing basically just means a different form factor. That's all really. Western Digital are known for pretty much being a very budget oriented storage brand. Sandisk are sort of in the mid-high end of the spectrum on that, so I'd assume the SSD Plus has the advantage.

 

550w is enough, if you are considering a major overclock then maybe it's worth spending an extra £10 or so for the 650w model instead.

Okay thank you, I won't buy an aftermarket cooler for now then, I am planning on overclocking eventually so if I feel like I should I will then buy a cooler then. And okay, well I will think about getting the Sandisk one instead then. And yeah I might buy the 650w just in case, £10 pounds will not make much difference.

[LordKoen]

9 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

wHY?

 

getting something else than a 2*8GB config is silly for 16 GB. not only it more expencive to run 4*4GB you risk loosing Ram overclocking potential. something that is more or a concern with Ryzen (though minimal at this point in time)

 

 

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£121.97 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£89.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Predator RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£104.49 @ Ebuyer) 
Storage: Gigabyte - UD PRO 256 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£35.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 7K3000 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£48.89 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8 GB Video Card  (£386.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black/White) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£49.00 @ AWD-IT) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 11 CM 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£69.65 @ CCL Computers) 
Total: £906.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-03 22:00 BST+0100

 

here i fixed up the build a bit. id highly suggest picking this up instead. 

 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/ynhKHx/gigabyte-ud-pro-512gb-25-solid-state-drive-gp-gstfs30512gttd

 

if you wanna spend a bit extra. pick up this SSD instead of the one mentioned in the build above. 

 

Thank you for the suggestions, the ram seems very good so I might swap to that instead of the trident Z. But I think I might stick with the 1 TB of SSD, as I don't think I will need that much storage. Right now I only have 1 TB of HDD and only about 70% of it filled, so there is no point in my buying a 2 TB HDD I would say. I might spend the extra money on the vega 64 though, I am not sure I have seen lots of places saying the 56 is more worth it for the money especially if undervolted and overclocked

[GoldenLag]

20 minutes ago, LordKoen said:

 

Thank you for the suggestions, the ram seems very good so I might swap to that instead of the trident Z. But I think I might stick with the 1 TB of SSD, as I don't think I will need that much storage. Right now I only have 1 TB of HDD and only about 70% of it filled, so there is no point in my buying a 2 TB HDD I would say. I might spend the extra money on the vega 64 though, I am not sure I have seen lots of places saying the 56 is more worth it for the money especially if undervolted and overclocked

Its hard to get a better build than the ibe i posted, but if you want to use only a 1TB SSD then that is up to you.

 

Remember to pick uo the PSU i ociked out as you really need it over the one you picked. 

 

Vega 64 is better and to get the most out of the vega 56 it needs to be BIOS modded. Other than that id just run it stock.

[LordKoen]

33 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Its hard to get a better build than the ibe i posted, but if you want to use only a 1TB SSD then that is up to you.

 

Remember to pick uo the PSU i ociked out as you really need it over the one you picked. 

 

Vega 64 is better and to get the most out of the vega 56 it needs to be BIOS modded. Other than that id just run it stock.

What makes the PSU you picked so much better than the one I had? 

[GoldenLag]

7 hours ago, LordKoen said:

What makes the PSU you picked so much better than the one I had? 

Yours has lacking protections. Its old and will provabky fail to deliver powet to the GPU while havign a chance to fail and take the entire system with it

 

I suggest just picking up my build and swapping out the SSD