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5 minutes ago, Dinnerb0n3 said:

How much of a performance advantage does the 2070 have.

PS my bro was telling me that there are some libraries for the 2070 which are not there for the 2060. Is this true?( I don't trust what he says)

10-20%. Just in terms of Tensor core count it's a 20% gain.

 

Nope softwares treat the 2070 and 2060 exactly the same way. You can only get special "libraries" on Quadro and Tesla cards, and we're talking at least double the cost for something with identical hardware specs.

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I want to gift my brother a new GPU, and I was wondering which GPU would be good for him. He plays many eSports games, plays some AAA gamess on his 1080p ultrawide monitor and most importantly he does machine learning. I am very familiar with hardware bubt I have no idea when it comes to ML. I know that AMD GPUs are a no go for ML, so within Nvidia I'm guessing the RTX cards will be the best for him as they have tensor cores.

Now here is my dilemma should I buy an RTX 2060 or an RTX 2070 for him. Will getting the RTX 2070 have any sizable impact in ML for him?

Sorry if I misused some terms I really have no idea about ML.

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Just get 2060. 2070's advantages doesnt match the price increase

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Just get 2060. 2070's advantages doesnt match the price increase

How much of a performance advantage does the 2070 have.

PS my bro was telling me that there are some libraries for the 2070 which are not there for the 2060. Is this true?( I don't trust what he says)

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Just get 2060. 2070's advantages doesnt match the price increase

Have to agree,

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2 minutes ago, ZcanKal said:

If you need a new card, the 2060 or 1660 would be a good option, but if you can go used, go for a used 1070 ti or something along those lines.

He already has an Rx480 so the 1660 won't be much of an upgrade. The RTX cards have tensor cores which is wayy better than Cuda cores for ML at least that is what I have heard.

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5 minutes ago, Dinnerb0n3 said:

How much of a performance advantage does the 2070 have.

PS my bro was telling me that there are some libraries for the 2070 which are not there for the 2060. Is this true?( I don't trust what he says)

10-20%. Just in terms of Tensor core count it's a 20% gain.

 

Nope softwares treat the 2070 and 2060 exactly the same way. You can only get special "libraries" on Quadro and Tesla cards, and we're talking at least double the cost for something with identical hardware specs.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

10-20%. Just in terms of Tensor core count it's a 20% gain.

 

Nope softwares treat the 2070 and 2060 exactly the same way. You can only get special "libraries" on Quadro and Tesla cards, and we're talking at least double the cost for something with identical hardware specs.

Okay one last question will overclocking the RTX 2060 help to reduce the gap?

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Okay one last question will overclocking the RTX 2060 help to reduce the gap?

sort of. Comparing to a 2070 that's untouched, yes. When you overclock the 2070 at the same time, no.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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