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I have a quick question regarding different CPU types,

 

I am a Trader NOT a gamer .. so Frame rates and stuff is kind of secondary, I just need to drive 3 Screens smoothly.

and of course run the trading software and OBS (for the streaming) 

 

i was offered a  XEON X5650  with a GTX950

and a CORE i5-3570 with a GTX1060 3G

 

the i5 is about 80 bucks more expensive. but since this is not a gaming thing .. what would you guys choose? (keep in mind the Streaming part) ;)

 

some notes would be greatly apreciated.

 

cheers 

 

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Do they come with motherboards? Because good luck getting a well priced and conditioned X58 board for the 6 core Xeon.

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Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

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4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Do they come with motherboards? Because good luck getting a well priced and conditioned X58 board for the 6 core Xeon.

ah Yes they are complete builds .. but the details are vague at best 

 

  • CPU INTEL Xeon X5650 2.66 GHz MAX 3.06 GHz ( 6 Core 12 Threads )
  • Cooler Deep Cool X1
  • MB X58 Socket 1366 DDR3
  • RAM ECC DDR3 8G 
  • VGA GTX950 2GB
  • HDD 1TB
  • COOLMAN ATX BIG FAN

 

and for the I5 

  • CPU: CORE i5-3570
  • GTX1060 3G
  • RAM: 8GB DDR3 BUS 1600
  • Power Supply: (FULL) DTECH PW008 600W
  • Hard disk: 1000 GB (1TB)

 

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I don't know what hardware your software wants but the i5 is faster in single and quad core performance and slower in multi threaded workloads, and the 950 is much faster than the 1030 so I suggest getting a 950 either way (if possible) and for the CPU either the i5 if your workloads more single threaded or xeon if it's multithreaded (like OBS)

 

I do not know if and if your trading software can use more than 1 core

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loaf and let dough (A printer that doesn't print black ink)

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The Toaster (C2D, intel HD, 4GB, 2X1TB NAS)

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well, that is a pretty good question about multi-tread, the hardware recommendations are terrible on the Spotware Website.

and I know for a fact, that you just can't smoothly run the software on what they recommending.

 

the question about multithread was just answered like this:

 183208988_ScreenShot2019-02-22at2_58_50AM.jpg.533c73085514cc74af0d85af651aaa5c.jpg

whatever that means ;)

 

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2 minutes ago, SwingFish said:

well, that is a pretty good question about multi-tread, the hardware recommendations are terrible on the Spotware Website.

and I know for a fact, that you just can't smoothly run the software on what they recommending.

 

the question about multithread was just answered like this:

 183208988_ScreenShot2019-02-22at2_58_50AM.jpg.533c73085514cc74af0d85af651aaa5c.jpg

whatever that means ;)

 

from what that says to me is more cores the better (to a certain degree, so the xeon should be better, also you can use ECC with the xeon so that might be a small benefit for you)

The owner of "too many" computers, called

The Lord of all Toasters (1920X 1080ti 32GB)

The Toasted Controller (i5 4670, R9 380, 24GB)

The Semi Portable Toastie machine (i7 3612QM (was an i3) intel HD 4000 16GB)'

Bread and Butter Pudding (i7 7700HQ, 1050ti, 16GB)

Pinoutbutter Sandwhich (raspberry pi 3 B)

The Portable Slice of Bread (N270, HAHAHA, 2GB)

Muffinator (C2D E6600, Geforce 8400, 6GB, 8X2TB HDD)

Toastbuster (WIP, should be cool)

loaf and let dough (A printer that doesn't print black ink)

The Cheese Toastie (C2D (of some sort), GTX 760, 3GB, win XP gaming machine)

The Toaster (C2D, intel HD, 4GB, 2X1TB NAS)

Matter of Loaf and death (some old shitty AMD laptop)

windybread (4X E5470, intel HD, 32GB ECC) (use coming soon, maybe)

And more, several more

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I have a sneaking suspicion that neither are as good as they seem. Xeon deal is much better, but don't expect it to be great.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Streaming obs will like that 6 core Xeon much more than the quad core i5. Driving displays is child's play for a GPU so the 950 is sufficient.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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