New gaming system!

[Leopard]

Hey guys!

 

I am really excited, I've decided to treat myself with a new system!

Would like some help with choosing the right parts of the job.

I am 100% gaming on this system, long time fan of 144hz and mostly FPSing.

 

I would also like to know what are your thoughts about the graphic card - is going for RTX even worth it? or 1080TI is the way to go? 

 

1. Budget & Location

1800$ - flexible.

Amazon - USA.

2. Aim

Gaming. Competitive, FPS. Examples - PUBG, Apex Legends, Overwatch, COD, Battlefield.

3. Monitors

BenQ XL2420TE 144hz 1080p

Dell, 60 hz 1080p

I am currently aiming for 144fps on 1080p with an option to upgrade my monitor (1440p probably), maybe in two years.

4. Peripherals

Nothing.

5. Why are you upgrading?

My computer is 4 years old and games aren't running as smooth. Hard playing on lower than 144 fps once you got used to it 

 

 

Your help is highly appreciated!

[TH3R34P3R]

do you intend on keeping your case, and what PSU do you have @Leopard

[TH3R34P3R]

25 minutes ago, Leopard said:

1800$ - flexible.

Amazon - USA.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$359.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC - Freezer 33 eSports ONE (Black/Red) CPU Cooler	$35.53 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$179.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$109.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card	$809.76 @ Amazon
Operating System	Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit	Purchased For $0.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1495.26
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-19 08:48 EST-0500

 

^^ more budget friendly (assuming you have a psu and case you are willing to keep - this applies to all builds)

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$525.89 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Corsair - H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$89.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS MASTER ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$294.98 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$109.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card	$809.76 @ Amazon
Operating System	Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit	Purchased For $0.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1850.51
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1830.51
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-19 08:47 EST-0500

 

 

 ^^ Balls to the wall gaming, only lacking a 2080ti because that was out of budget. 

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor	$308.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	be quiet! - Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler	$68.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard	Gigabyte - X470 AORUS GAMING 7 WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard	$239.78 @ SuperBiiz
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$109.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card	$809.76 @ Amazon
Operating System	Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit	Purchased For $0.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1537.51
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-19 08:51 EST-0500

 

 

^^ Ryzen build. more budget friendly than the other balls to the wall build. this offers upgradability in the upcoming years too. 

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor	$249.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	be quiet! - Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler	$68.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard	MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard	$114.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$109.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Black Video Card	$499.99 @ Amazon
Operating System	Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit	Purchased For $0.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1063.75
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1043.75
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-19 08:52 EST-0500

 

 

^^ Ryzen build, cuts down on CPU and GPU, but for the 1080p gaming you have now, it will kick ass. 

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$261.98 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler	be quiet! - Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler	$68.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$179.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$109.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Black Video Card	$499.99 @ Amazon
Operating System	Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit	Purchased For $0.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1120.94
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-19 08:54 EST-0500

 

 

^^ Just an Intel version of the ryzen build above. 

 

And finally, a 400 dollar ultrawide 1440p monitor. Get it if you get any of the builds with a 2080 if you think its worth shelling out the extra 400 on top of the build itself. It will be an upgrade you will not want to go back from

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pDsmP6/msi-optix-mag341cq-340-3440x1440-100hz-monitor-optix-mag341cq

 

If you need any further guidance, let me know. just remember to quote me in whatever it is you want me to see. 

[NunoLava1998]

You can OC this bad boy to infinity GHz (reuse RAM, storage and optical drives !)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($308.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 SE-AM4 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG Crosshair VII Hero ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($254.91 @ B&H) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card  ($699.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($105.82 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - PRIME Ultra Titanium 650 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($147.90 @ B&H) 
Total: $1607.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-19 08:59 EST-0500

[LukeSavenije]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$261.98 @ Newegg
Motherboard	ASRock - Z390 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$139.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$90.98 @ Newegg Business
Storage	Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card	$699.99 @ B&H
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case	$87.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$59.99 @ B&H
Other	ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO Edition - Tower CPU Cooler with Push-Pull Configuration I Silent 3-Phase-Motor and wide range of regulation 200 to 2100 RPM - Includes 2 low noise PWM 120 mm Fans – White	$40.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1425.81
	Mail-in rebates	-$45.00
	Total	$1380.81
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-19 09:00 EST-0500

 

[NunoLava1998]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$261.98 @ Newegg
Motherboard	ASRock - Z390 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$139.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$90.98 @ Newegg Business
Storage	Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For $0.00
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card	$699.99 @ B&H
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case	$87.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$59.99 @ B&H
Other	ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO Edition - Tower CPU Cooler with Push-Pull Configuration I Silent 3-Phase-Motor and wide range of regulation 200 to 2100 RPM - Includes 2 low noise PWM 120 mm Fans – White	$40.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1425.81
	Mail-in rebates	-$45.00
	Total	$1380.81
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-19 09:00 EST-0500

 

Absolutely fantastic waste of money

>buys 16GB of DDR4 while he already has it (if you look up the motherboard it uses DDR4 and he has 16GB)

>buys fucking i5

[TH3R34P3R]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

-Snip-

me - sat there for about 40 minutes making a variety for the OP to view... 

 

luke - heh, i got this. *designs better build in like 2 minutes* 

[TH3R34P3R]

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

Absolutely fantastic waste of money

>buys 16GB of DDR4 while he already has it (if you look up the motherboard it uses DDR4 and he has 16GB)

>buys fucking i5

and you recommended ryzen with 2133 mhz ram... jesus. you are asking for wasted performance. 

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

>buys 16GB of DDR4 while he already has it (if you look up the motherboard it uses DDR4 and he has 16GB)

i wasn't sure what to do with what he already had, but fair enough

 

2 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

>buys fucking i5 

complalins about great cpu

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, TH3R34P3R said:

and you recommended ryzen with 2133 mhz ram... jesus. you are asking for wasted performance. 

You can buy a kit of 16GB 3200MHz for 109$ 

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

icomplalins about great cpu

It is a great CPU, but for 1400$ you really should be looking for better options than a i5 lol

[TH3R34P3R]

 

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

i wasn't sure what to do with what he already had, but fair enough

 

complalins about great cpu

I love how he picked your build for it to complain about LMFAO. 

 

all of mine suggested new ram, as OP's was slower. and i used the 9600k in one build too LOL

[TH3R34P3R]

2 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

You can buy a kit of 16GB 3200MHz for 109$ 

then why did you go after Luke for putting ram in his build recommendation if you knew what the OP has wasn't going to make sense with a higher end build? 

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, TH3R34P3R said:

me - sat there for about 40 minutes making a variety for the OP to view... 

 

luke - heh, i got this. *designs better build in like 2 minutes* 

sorry i guess...

 

Just now, NunoLava1998 said:

It is a great CPU, but for 1400$ you really should be looking for better options than a i5 lol

then we differ in that. i think there's no need

 

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

You can buy a kit of 16GB 3200MHz for 109$ 

or less

 

Just now, TH3R34P3R said:

 

I love how he picked your build for it to complain about LMFAO. 

 

all of mine suggested new ram, as OP's was slower. and i used the 9600k in one build too LOL

today is the time that it actually affects performance

 

 

btw, the build guide pinned in this subforum is a great source of information (i worked in it too)

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, TH3R34P3R said:

then why did you go after Luke for putting ram in his build recommendation if you knew what the OP has wasn't going to make sense with a higher end build? 

I only realized that after I posted it lol

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

I only realized that after I posted it lol

 

[Guest]

If you can reuse a lot of your current build (psu, storage, case, cooler etc) then you could get a new monitor in with the $1800.

 

You would need to say what case, psu and cooler you have though. The 2133 ram you have is a bit on the slow side, but you should be able to overclock it. If you want the extra cores then the 9700K is $50 or so more. You lose HT though.

 

Monitor is Freesync, but supports Nvidia gpu's with the correct driver.

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($359.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card  ($699.99 @ B&H) 
Monitor: Acer - XG270HU 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($372.77 @ Walmart) 
Total: $1612.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-02-19 09:14 EST-0500

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, lee32uk said:

Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 

small question... why not the extreme4 or go up to the aorus elite?

[Guest]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

small question... why not the extreme4 or go up to the aorus elite?

Pro > Elite. They share the same VRM. Think the only difference is the Pro has an extra x16 slot and the Elite has an extra x1 slot. The Pro is actually the slightly higher model on Gigabyte's naming scheme.

 

https://wccftech.com/gigabyte-aorus-z390-motherboard-roundup/

 

Haven't really looked at ASRock but I seem to remember the Extreme 4 not being as good as the Z370 version. Might be wrong on that though.

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, lee32uk said:

Pro > Elite. They share the same VRM. Think the only difference is the Pro has an extra x16 slot and the Elite has an extra x1 slot. The Pro is actually the slightly higher model on Gigabyte's naming scheme

i thought it was the other way around. i did know about the vrms being the same tho. thanks for the heads up!

 

1 minute ago, lee32uk said:

Haven't really looked at ASRock but I seem to remember the Extreme 4 not being as good as the Z370 version. Might be wrong on that though.

I'm not sure if it's a 12+1 or a 10+3, but afaik it's a solid board, and it seems to be on sale for 140 dollars

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

i thought it was the other way around. i did know about the vrms being the same tho. thanks for the heads up!

 

I'm not sure if it's a 12+1 or a 10+3, but afaik it's a solid board, and it seems to be on sale for 140 dollars

Pretty much any Z390 board would handle the 8700K without issues. If he doesn't plan on going with the 9900K then the ASRock would do ok. He has the budget though for the better Gigabyte boards if he wants that option.

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

Pretty much any Z390 board would handle the 8700K without issues. If he doesn't plan on going with the 9900K then the ASRock would do ok. He has the budget though for the better Gigabyte boards if he wants that option.

afaik the lower (it's what you call lower) tier gigabyte aorus boards should be around the same as a extreme4, so it can handle a 9900k

 

even a gigabyte z390 ud can

[Leopard]

@LukeSavenije @lee32uk @NunoLava1998 Thank you for all the comments!

 

@TH3R34P3R Thanks for providing so many options and taking everything into consideration.

 

Totally forgot to mention - I am going to pass my old computer to a friend, so I need everything but the SSD and HDD.

 

Few question I have - 

1. All of you suggested EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card. What's so special about it? is it budget-friendly? or just a better version than others?

2. Considering the fact I will at some point upgrade to 1440p - will i7 CPU help with performance? or CPU and resolution has nothing to do with each other?

[NunoLava1998]

15 minutes ago, Leopard said:

@LukeSavenije @lee32uk @NunoLava1998 Thank you for all the comments!

 

@TH3R34P3R Thanks for providing so many options and taking everything into consideration.

 

Totally forgot to mention - I am going to pass my old computer to a friend, so I need everything but the SSD and HDD.

 

Few question I have - 

1. All of you suggested EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card. What's so special about it? is it budget-friendly? or just a better version than others?

2. Considering the fact I will at some point upgrade to 1440p - will i7 CPU help with performance? or CPU and resolution has nothing to do with each other?

It's the cheapest RTX 2080.

i7 will help, but at 1440p you're going to be better off in 1440p with a better GPU

[LukeSavenije]

56 minutes ago, Leopard said:

All of you suggested EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card. What's so special about it? is it budget-friendly? or just a better version than others?

because it's a good budget option, and evga has a unbeatable costumer service. highly recommended