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Should I buy mining GPU

Astrix137

Hey guys,
Lately I've been searching for some nice deal GTX 1070 and I got onto used card.Deal is really amazing: GTX 1070 Strix OC for 270$ but card is used for mining 3-4 months.
Iam really confused right now since this is great deal but could end really bad for me.
Seller is good rated and Iam also covered by buyer protection but nothing guarantes me that card will live long enough.I cant test it before I buy it and can only trust sellers words.
I also need to say that this is very rear deal,not so much offers in couple last months and Iam pretty restricted on choices because Iam outside US.

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1 minute ago, Astrix137 said:

Hey guys,
Lately I've been searching for some nice deal GTX 1070 and I got onto used card.Deal is really amazing: GTX 1070 Strix OC for 270$ but card is used for mining 3-4 months.
Iam really confused right now since this is great deal but could end really bad for me.
Seller is good rated and Iam also covered by buyer protection but nothing guarantes me that card will live long enough.I cant test it before I buy it and can only trust sellers words.
I also need to say that this is very rear deal,not so much offers in couple last months and Iam pretty restricted on choices because Iam outside US.

RTX2060 soon be launched for around $349/ 369EUR   Could something be to think about if you could stretch your budget. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Astrix137 said:

I cant test it before I buy it and can only trust sellers words.

What are you buying through?

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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Yeah it should be fine 

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2 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

RTX2060 soon be launched for around $349/ 369EUR   Could something be to think about if you could stretch your budget. 

$350 base price so you know they are going to be $350-$400 which is A LOT different than $270

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Yes I really thought about 2060,I can invest more but the only and the biggest problem is:no shipping to my country.When it arrives here it wont be founders edition and a lot more expensive which is way above my budget :(

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As a former miner myself (mined with two 1070s), I can honestly say most miners have been given a horrible reputation due largely to the influx in GPU prices we saw last Summer. I researched the hell out of mining before I got in to it. I joined Facebook groups and subscribed to YouTube channels dedicated to mining. I can tell you with confidence, very FEW miners abuse their cards. These are usually the ones who sit in their parents basement and don't pay for their own electric. The vast majority of miners are ALL about efficiency. The lowest watts used for the highest hash output. And rarely does anyone run their fans at 100% contrary to what you may have heard. It's not very good for profit if your card dies in a few months, it's all about longevity for maximum profits.. it's about keeping the cards as cool as possible so they'll last for many years.

 

That said, consider this.. A GTX 1070 has a stock TDP of 150 watts. With MSI Afterburner the Power Limit can be pushed to 112% for a total of 190 watts in intense gaming sessions. However, when I mined Ethereum, I dialed my power limit down to 60%, which means my cards only consumed 90 watts from the wall at full load. My cards while gaming often reached 70c+ with aggressive fan curves, but stayed comfortably below 55c with a manual 60% fan speed while mining. Not only that, but mining is like putting your automobile on cruise control on the highway. One steady speed for long periods of time versus the constant stop and go traffic when compared to a gaming session. I hope that analogy made sense, it did in my head.

 

Another thing to consider, check the warranty on whatever card you're thinking of purchasing. My second Nvidia GTX 1070 Founders Edition was still under warranty when I sold it.

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2 minutes ago, johndms said:

As a former miner myself (mined with two 1070s), I can honestly say most miners have been given a horrible reputation due largely to the influx in GPU prices we saw last Summer. I researched the hell out of mining before I got in to it. I joined Facebook groups and subscribed to YouTube channels dedicated to mining. I can tell you with confidence, very FEW miners abuse their cards. These are usually the ones who sit in their parents basement and don't pay for their own electric. The vast majority of miners are ALL about efficiency. The lowest watts used for the highest hash output. And rarely does anyone run their fans at 100% contrary to what you may have heard. It's not very good for profit if your card dies in a few months, it's all about longevity for maximum profits.. it's about keeping the cards as cool as possible so they'll last for many years.

 

That said, consider this.. A GTX 1070 has a stock TDP of 150 watts. With MSI Afterburner the Power Limit can be pushed to 112% for a total of 190 watts in intense gaming sessions. However, when I mined Ethereum, I dialed my power limit down to 60%, which means my cards only consumed 90 watts from the wall at full load. My cards while gaming often reached 70c+ with aggressive fan curves, but stayed comfortably below 55c with a manual 60% fan speed while mining. Not only that, but a mining is like putting your automobile on cruise control on the highway. One steady speed for long periods of time versus the constant stop and go traffic when compared to a gaming session. I hope that analogy made sense, it did in my head.

 

Another thing to consider, check the warranty on whatever card you're thinking of purchasing. My second Nvidia GTX 1070 Founders Edition was still under warranty when I sold it.

Really usefull words,I want to hear what other members say about this.I asked seller in which condition card is being used and still waiting for reply.I know about underclocking cards and that stuff but every miner is different so you never know how safe it is.

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7 minutes ago, Astrix137 said:

Really usefull words,I want to hear what other members say about this.I asked seller in which condition card is being used and still waiting for reply.I know about underclocking cards and that stuff but every miner is different so you never know how safe it is.

Another thing to keep in mind is the current price of BTC. As I'm sure you're aware, it crashed rather hard causing mining profits to be in the negative. Too expensive in electric costs to keep them going versus revenue. This has caused miners to sell all their cards at a loss (like I did), even perfectly good cards, just to get out quick. This is different from a card sold during peak mining times last Summer. Then, I would have wondered if someone was selling their broken cards for a low price. Now, personally, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a used mining card should my faithful EVGA card die. Though I would probably eyeball the RTX 2060 pretty hard first.

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10 minutes ago, johndms said:

As a former miner myself (mined with two 1070s), I can honestly say most miners have been given a horrible reputation due largely to the influx in GPU prices we saw last Summer. I researched the hell out of mining before I got in to it. I joined Facebook groups and subscribed to YouTube channels dedicated to mining. I can tell you with confidence, very FEW miners abuse their cards. These are usually the ones who sit in their parents basement and don't pay for their own electric. The vast majority of miners are ALL about efficiency. The lowest watts used for the highest hash output. And rarely does anyone run their fans at 100% contrary to what you may have heard. It's not very good for profit if your card dies in a few months, it's all about longevity for maximum profits.. it's about keeping the cards as cool as possible so they'll last for many years.

 

That said, consider this.. A GTX 1070 has a stock TDP of 150 watts. With MSI Afterburner the Power Limit can be pushed to 112% for a total of 190 watts in intense gaming sessions. However, when I mined Ethereum, I dialed my power limit down to 60%, which means my cards only consumed 90 watts from the wall at full load. My cards while gaming often reached 70c+ with aggressive fan curves, but stayed comfortably below 55c with a manual 60% fan speed while mining. Not only that, but mining is like putting your automobile on cruise control on the highway. One steady speed for long periods of time versus the constant stop and go traffic when compared to a gaming session. I hope that analogy made sense, it did in my head.

 

Another thing to consider, check the warranty on whatever card you're thinking of purchasing. My second Nvidia GTX 1070 Founders Edition was still under warranty when I sold it.

Agree, I was the same, mining with 3x 1060, set to around 85-90% power, but rrunning a very efficient algo, so was using appprox 35-40 Watts per card on average, and took very good care of them. I didn't bother selling mine, and instead re-purposed them to soime of my other PCs, which was always the plan anyway TBH as I knew mining would take a big hit at some point.

It's always a gamble buying used, whether the seller was a miner or not, anyone can abuse their cards and stuff... just look at some of the stuff we have posted on the forums, I would never treat my hardware badly, and always clean and maintain my systems, but some people don't care and just do what they have to to keep it working when it quits on them. It's not a miner thing per say, it's a laziness/apathy thing really.

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2 minutes ago, johndms said:

Another thing to keep in mind is the current price of BTC. As I'm sure you're aware, it crashed rather hard causing mining profits to be in the negative. Too expensive in electric costs to keep them going versus revenue. This has caused miners to sell all their cards at a loss (like I did), even perfectly good cards, just to get out quick. This is different from a card sold during peak mining times last Summer. Then, I would have wondered if someone was selling their broken cards for a low price. Now, personally, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a used mining card should my faithful EVGA card die. Though I would probably eyeball the RTX 2060 pretty hard first.

Wanted 2060FE at first but no shipping to my country...When it comes here it will be expensive as hell....Just the fact that brand new 1070 asus dual is 550euros here is making me dead.

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Hey guys,just want to update you about current status of whole situation:seller refused to sell me GPU as "Iam not right person for it" meaning that I  wanted many informations that he couldnt provide me such as clock on cards during mining,fans speed and other stuff like that.So thats it,really hope that Ill come to another deal soon.

Thank you for replays.

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