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A frenchie's first build

Argalaprohis
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Hi everyone,

 

I finally decided to take a lip forward and go for my first build.

My objectives are: a decent gaming-only rig that will last for quite a while (4K ideally - Full HD for sure, VR could happen) for 1700€ (components are more expansive here in EU). Sales are ongoing so I might be able to get some of the stuff cheeper.

I still need to figure out the screen, keyboard and network card (300€).

 

Games: KSP, Star citizen, Doom, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Witcher 3, DeusEx : Mankind Devided

 

Started from the top: 

 

Now I'm there:

 

Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E GAMING Carte mère Intel Z390 Socket LGA1151 - 245€
CPU: Intel Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz - 270€
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16Go (2x8Go) DDR4 3200MHz - 255€
Cooling: Corsair Hydro H100i v2 - 130€
GPU: Gigabyte Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 1620 MHz PCI Express - 570€
Storage: WD Blue 500GB 3D NAND Internal SSD M.2 SATA - 90€
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 2 To SATA - 75€
Corsair Crystal 460X RGB - 140€
Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750 W - 80 Plus - 110€
  

I would like to try a little overclocking at some point...

 

Few questions:

-Can I swap the liquid cooling for a Noctua NH-U14S without loosing too much cooling efficiency (-60€)?

-Is 3200MHz RAM mandatory and how much of a difference will it make if I pick lower and a different brand?

-6Go/s SATA VS NVMe... Worth upgrading for the price (+60€)?

-2070 vs 1070Ti (-100€)

 

This is so much of a struggle for a newbie and I apologise in advance if this build looks wrong.

 

Cheers!

 

A.

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2 minutes ago, Argalaprohis said:

Few questions:

-Can I swap the liquid cooling for a Noctua NH-U14S without loosing too much cooling efficiency (-60€)?

-Is 3200MHz RAM mandatory and how much of a difference will it make if I pick lower and a different brand?

-6Go/s SATA VS NVMe... Worth upgrading for the price (+60€)?

-2070 vs 1070Ti (-100€)

yes, but I would swap it to a nhd15 or dark rock pro 4

as long as the timings and speed are the same, they'll probebly be the same nand, as long as it's a reputable company, you're fine

imo not for gaming

2070=~1080 with raytracing 1070 ti oc=~1080

 

I'll be right back with something better than that build

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That motherboard is a bit overkill. You can save €100 on that no problem.

PC Specs - AMD Ryzen 5 5600X MSI B550M Mortar 16GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600 @ CL15 - RX5700XT 660p 1TBGB & 256GB 600p Fractal Define Mini C CM V550 - Pop!_OS 20.04

 

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8 minutes ago, NelizMastr said:

That motherboard is a bit overkill. You can save €100 on that no problem.

and effective 4 phase... z390 aorus would be much better imo

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16 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

I'll be right back with something better than that build

Dude, thanks!

 

But rather than stupidly buying parts, I would really like to understand where I got stuff wrong/overkilled

1080s are more expansive than RTX2070 here...

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1 minute ago, Argalaprohis said:

Dude, thanks!

 

But rather than stupidly buying parts, I would really like to understand where I got stuff wrong/overkilled

1080s are more expansive than RTX2070 here...

okay... then I'll help ya choose over making up something myself... do you mind going amd?

 

i was just making the point that a stock 2070 will perform around the same as a overclocked 1070 ti

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1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

okay... then I'll help ya choose over making up something myself... do you mind going amd?

Not really, can't be picky at this point

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26 minutes ago, Argalaprohis said:

Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E GAMING Carte mère Intel Z390 Socket LGA1151 - 245€
CPU: Intel Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz - 270€
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16Go (2x8Go) DDR4 3200MHz - 255€
Cooling: Corsair Hydro H100i v2 - 130€
GPU: Gigabyte Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 1620 MHz PCI Express - 570€
Storage: WD Blue 500GB 3D NAND Internal SSD M.2 SATA - 90€
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 2 To SATA - 75€
Corsair Crystal 460X RGB - 140€
Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750 W - 80 Plus - 110€

but I'll start with criticizing it then

 

get a 9600k if the difference in price is small

don't go z390 asus, because the vrms are pretty bad, gigabyte aorus and some asrock boards are much better

you can go much cheaper on your ram, any 3000+ mhz ram will do

the aorus or the windforce 2070?

would personally get a mx500 or 860 evo

no problems with the hdd imo

something like a meshify c, focus g, h500 (cooler master), mb511 (rgb) would be cheaper and as good if not better

750 watt is really overkill

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Just now, Argalaprohis said:

Not really, can't be picky at this point

then look around for the 2600 too, it performs like a 8500, but has ht and costs around 150-200 bucks

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9 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

then look around for the 2600 too, it performs like a 8500, but has ht and costs around 150-200 bucks

What about 2600X + X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING?

I really think i should decide to go team blue or team red before crawling under a ton under CPUs

14 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

the aorus or the windforce 2070?

Windforce is way less expensive

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3 minutes ago, Argalaprohis said:

What about 2600X + X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING?

I really think i should decide to go team blue or team red before crawling under a ton under CPUs

Windforce is way less expensive

get a non-x, it only turbos higher, you can still overclock normal chips to at least that level, I would personally get a x470 fatal1ty/taichi/taichi ultimate, as they all have a great power delivery, but there are more boards too.

what about other 2070's? and 1070 ti's?

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2 minutes ago, Argalaprohis said:

What about 2600X + X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING?

I really think i should decide to go team blue or team red before crawling under a ton under CPUs

Whether to go red or blue depends on your resolution. If you're going to run 1080p for the most part, I'd go Intel. If you're going 4K from the get go, it's just a matter of getting the best bang for the buck.

 

My two cents:

 

Intel:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€271.88 @ Amazon France) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool - CAPTAIN 240EX RGB 153.04 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€119.99 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: MSI - MAG Z390 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€157.00 @ Amazon France) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€140.10 @ Amazon France) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€103.98 @ FNAC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€62.99 @ Cdiscount) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card  (€569.90 @ Amazon France) 
Case: Corsair - Crystal 460X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (€149.99 @ Amazon France) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€109.90 @ Corsair) 
Total: €1685.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-09 11:21 CET+0100

 

AMD:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€229.80 @ Amazon France) 
CPU Cooler: Deepcool - CAPTAIN 240EX RGB 153.04 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€119.99 @ Amazon France) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€157.89 @ Alternate) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€140.10 @ Amazon France) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€103.98 @ FNAC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€62.99 @ Cdiscount) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card  (€569.90 @ Amazon France) 
Case: Corsair - Crystal 460X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  (€149.99 @ Amazon France) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€109.90 @ Corsair) 
Total: €1644.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-09 11:25 CET+0100

 

PC Specs - AMD Ryzen 5 5600X MSI B550M Mortar 16GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600 @ CL15 - RX5700XT 660p 1TBGB & 256GB 600p Fractal Define Mini C CM V550 - Pop!_OS 20.04

 

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6 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

x470 fatal1ty/taichi/taichi ultimate

God they are expensive...

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Just now, Argalaprohis said:

God they are expensive...

fatal1ty too? I know the taichi is expensive, but that would be weird...

what about the pro carbon?

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6 minutes ago, NelizMastr said:

Whether to go red or blue depends on your resolution. If you're going to run 1080p for the most part, I'd go Intel. If you're going 4K from the get go, it's just a matter of getting the best bang for the buck

Okay so from what I understand, 4K is still pretty expensive. Anyway thanks for the amazing builds, I will need some time to absorbe all of this

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7 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

fatal1ty too? I know the taichi is expensive, but that would be weird...

what about the pro carbon?

Msi MPG Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon - 215€

Asrock X470 Gaming K4 - 180€

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Just now, Argalaprohis said:

Msi MPG Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon - 215€

Asrock X470 Gaming K4 - 180€

not the one I meant... the x470 pro carbon

 

and do you mind going b450?

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3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

x470 pro carbon

190€ so way better

10 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

and do you mind going b450?

Now I'm lost, how big of a difference is there?

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1 minute ago, Argalaprohis said:

190€ so way better

Now I'm lost, how big of a difference is there?

x470: more ports possible, multi gpu support, 8 lanes on the chipset, more expensive boards, SOMETIMES better power delivery

b450: good power delivery, overclocking support, but no multi gpu support, 6 lane pcie on the chipset

a320 (don't choose, its just here for comparing) no overclocking, even less ports, 4 lanes from chipset

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23 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

x470

From what I got, people cannot really decide between X470 and b450 regarding overclocking but one thing appears to stand out, carbon pro is way better. So for the price, I guess I’ll go for it

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4 minutes ago, Argalaprohis said:

From what I got, people cannot really decide between X470 and b450 regarding overclocking but one thing appears to stand out, carbon pro is way better. So for the price, I guess I’ll go for it

the x470 fatal1ty is normally cheaper. but it's a good board

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