Beating a pre-built PC

[tryingmybest]

Please may I get some advice. I am currently looking at building my own pc over buying a dell inspiron 3670: https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/desktops-and-all-in-ones/inspiron-desktop/spd/inspiron-3670-desktop/cd367010

The requirements are as follows:

CPU: i7 8700 / ryzen 7 2700x or better

GPU: gtx 1050ti or better

PSU: high grade PSU (tier 1 with decent warranty)

memory: ddr4 2666mhz

ssd: SATA is fine needs to have a pretty good read/write speed though

mobo: preferably 4 ram slots (64gb max) or higher for upgradability

HDD: coming from donor as well as software.

front things: optical drive, usb and memory card reader (sd card)

monitor: equal or better. freesync?

overall-aesthetic: professional-looking

sellers: NOT amazon

 

needs at least 2/3yrs warranty (1 for less important things

 

ships to UK in GBP

 

im looking to be doing some gaming/programming in this build.

Thank you in advance!

[LukeSavenije]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor	£174.79 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC - Freezer 33 eSports ONE (Black/White) CPU Cooler	£29.99 @ AWD-IT
Motherboard	ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	£76.71 @ Amazon UK
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	£110.39 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	£70.75 @ Aria PC
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For £0.00
Video Card	XFX - Radeon RX 580 8 GB GTS XXX ED Video Card	£199.99 @ AWD-IT
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case	£43.22 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply	be quiet! - Pure Power 11 CM 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	£64.23 @ CCL Computers
Monitor	ViewSonic - XG2401 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor	£194.86 @ CCL Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£964.93
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-04 10:12 GMT+0000

[Aprilfooldude]

30 minutes ago, tryingmybest said:

CPU: i7 8700 / ryzen 7 2700x or better

GPU: gtx 1050ti or better

 

Excuse me, but one moment...

This config pairs an i7 EIGHTY-SEVEN-HUNDRED with a TEN-FIFTY TI.

Did I read that wrong or is that terrible

[LukeSavenije]

39 minutes ago, Aprilfooldude said:

Excuse me, but one moment...

This config pairs an i7 EIGHTY-SEVEN-HUNDRED with a TEN-FIFTY TI.

Did I read that wrong or is that terrible

he probebly needs a good cpu for coding. i get it... but knowing even a 580 is not that much more and i have to compete against a prebuilt, it's easy for me

[Guest]

For gaming you would be fine with a £149 R5 2600. For programming you would need to look at what cpu is best for your needs. No point getting an 8 core if you can't make use of it.

[tryingmybest]

 

11 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

he probebly needs a good cpu for coding. i get it... but knowing even a 580 is not that much more and i have to compete against a prebuilt, it's easy for me

Thank you soooo much! I’ll have a look into it (I thought it couldn’t be done!). You’ve just made my day.

 

11 hours ago, Aprilfooldude said:

Excuse me, but one moment...

This config pairs an i7 EIGHTY-SEVEN-HUNDRED with a TEN-FIFTY TI.

Did I read that wrong or is that terrible

Yeah, kinda but the inspiron is meant for HOME use. Dell has alternatives for gaming among others. I think they may also use it as a buzz-word!

 

9 hours ago, lee32uk said:

For gaming you would be fine with a £149 R5 2600. For programming you would need to look at what cpu is best for your needs. No point getting an 8 core if you can't make use of it.

 

Hmmmm.... that’s a good point. I’m pretty sure this is what I want, but I’ll check the demands for everything. (May also be used for rendering now).

 

 

Again, thank you guys so much for the help!

[LukeSavenije]

3 minutes ago, tryingmybest said:

 

Thank you soooo much! I’ll have a look into it (I thought it couldn’t be done!). You’ve just made my day.

 

Yeah, kinda but the inspiron is meant for HOME use. Dell has alternatives for gaming among others. I think they may also use it as a buzz-word!

 

 

Hmmmm.... that’s a good point. I’m pretty sure this is what I want, but I’ll check the demands for everything. (May also be used for rendering now).

 

 

Again, thank you guys so much for the help!

well, the 1700(x) will give you a bit less in gaming, but if your software can utilize the cores, it will be worth the extra 25 bucks imo

[tryingmybest]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

well, the 1700(x) will give you a bit less in gaming, but if your software can utilize the cores, it will be worth the extra 25 bucks imo

Thanks for the quick reply, noted.

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, tryingmybest said:

Thanks for the quick reply, noted.

btw, just for your notice

580=1060 6gb

570=1050 ti

 

[mayonnaiseblackhole]

22 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

btw, just for your notice

580=1060 6gb

570=1050 ti

 

Just saying that the 570 is quite a bit more powerful than the 1050 ti

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, DustierDolphin said:

Just saying that the 570 is quite a bit more powerful than the 1050 ti

i heared that before... correction just for you then

570=~1060 3gb-1050 ti

580=1060 6gb

[tryingmybest]

9 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

i heared that before... correction just for you then

570=~1060 3gb-1050 ti

580=1060 6gb

 

Again, thank you all for you help, I have revised the parts list you gave me:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor	£174.79 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC - Freezer 33 eSports ONE (Black/White) CPU Cooler	£29.99 @ AWD-IT
Motherboard	ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	£84.40 @ Alza
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	£122.98 @ CCL Computers
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	£70.75 @ Aria PC
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For £0.00
Video Card	XFX - Radeon RX 580 8 GB GTS XXX ED Video Card	£199.99 @ AWD-IT
Case	Antec - NSK3100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case	£33.92 @ Laptops Direct
Power Supply	be quiet! - Pure Power 11 CM 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	£64.23 @ CCL Computers
Optical Drive	Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer	£12.15 @ PC World Business
Monitor	LG - 24MK400H-B 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor	£84.99 @ CCL Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£878.19
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-04 23:01 GMT+0000

I decided to swap out the memory for something slightly cheaper - I will not be overclocking anyway for warranty reasons. It is still 2x8G, however.

The monitor: I changed this to a 75hz freesync monitor because with the rx580 I doubt I’ll be pushing frames that high (I would rather a higher quality render if that makes sense?). Please correct me if I’m wrong. I changed the case and added an optical drive (I know it’s so last millennium) there’s also room for a 2,50 as card reader. I may upgrade this with the spare money in the budget.

 

Is this good? And I if have a bit left in the budget (as in if essential parts I miss calculated were required) what should I change?

[LukeSavenije]

i would change the case to a focus g (mini/atx, choise is yours) for better airflow

 

is the ripjaws more expensive over there then? i just chose it because it had cl15 for a bit more than the aegis

 

quality over frames is a personal choise, I'm like that too btw. you could just get a 60 hertz and overclock it to 70-75 hertz... 

 

that would be about it for me

[tryingmybest]

9 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

i would change the case to a focus g (mini/atx, choise is yours) for better airflow

 

is the ripjaws more expensive over there then? i just chose it because it had cl15 for a bit more than the aegis

 

quality over frames is a personal choise, I'm like that too btw. you could just get a 60 hertz and overclock it to 70-75 hertz... 

 

that would be about it for me

Here is my final list (I changed the case as per your recommendations):

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor	£174.79 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC - Freezer 33 eSports ONE (Black/White) CPU Cooler	£29.99 @ AWD-IT
Motherboard	ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	£84.40 @ Alza
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	£131.18 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	£70.75 @ Aria PC
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For £0.00
Video Card	XFX - Radeon RX 580 8 GB GTS XXX ED Video Card	£199.99 @ AWD-IT
Case	Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case	£50.98 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	be quiet! - Pure Power 11 CM 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	£64.23 @ CCL Computers
Optical Drive	Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer	£12.15 @ PC World Business
Monitor	LG - 24MK400H-B 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor	£84.99 @ CCL Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£903.45
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-04 23:25 GMT+0000

The aegis ram was 2£ cheaper but you selected the V series or something, making it more expensive and I couldn’t see why... I swapped out the old vengeance lpx for some with a white heat spreader for build aesthetics with the white/black cooler and motherboard and white LED fans at the front.

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, tryingmybest said:

Here is my final list (I changed the case as per your recommendations):

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor	£174.79 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC - Freezer 33 eSports ONE (Black/White) CPU Cooler	£29.99 @ AWD-IT
Motherboard	ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	£84.40 @ Alza
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	£131.18 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	£70.75 @ Aria PC
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For £0.00
Video Card	XFX - Radeon RX 580 8 GB GTS XXX ED Video Card	£199.99 @ AWD-IT
Case	Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case	£50.98 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	be quiet! - Pure Power 11 CM 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	£64.23 @ CCL Computers
Optical Drive	Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer	£12.15 @ PC World Business
Monitor	LG - 24MK400H-B 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor	£84.99 @ CCL Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£903.45
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-04 23:25 GMT+0000

The aegis ram was 2£ cheaper but you selected the V series or something, making it more expensive and I couldn’t see why... I swapped out the old vengeance lpx for some with a white heat spreader for build aesthetics with the white/black cooler and motherboard and white LED fans at the front.

seems fine to me... btw, the cooler is available in black/red, black/green, black/yellow and black/white, so you can even choose between those