RX 580 Bottleneck?

[BattleToads]

I just upgraded from a 1050 Ti to an RX 580 8GB last night. Despite this, my performance seems worse. The GPU load is unstable and cycles through 20 - 50 - 90 - 0 - repeat %. My games are still playable but there is stutter and performance overall is probably worse than the 1050 Ti. I have a Xeon E31220 CPU, 16 GB RAM, Thermaltake 430W PSU. The card is hooked up using a dual 6 pin to 8 pin adapter, where one of the 6 pins itself is converted from a dual molex. Is it power delivery or CPU bottleneck? Anything else? This is very frustrating, please help. 

[YaBoiWill]

You can use watt man to set firm clocks for some of the things, I found that this helped in games because it wasn't doing anything strange down clocks. 

I don't game much on my card so I don't know long term if its a fix. 

[BattleToads]

5 minutes ago, YaBoiWill said:

You can use watt man to set firm clocks for some of the things, I found that this helped in games because it wasn't doing anything strange down clocks. 

I don't game much on my card so I don't know long term if its a fix. 

I'm not talking about 5 or 6 dropped frames under full load every now and then. The card is not performing anywhere NEAR its potential and is straight up acting in a bizarre manner. 

[BattleToads]

1 minute ago, Strike105X said:

 

There's issues with wattman and the latest AMD drivers on the RX580, uninstall drivers with DDU and install a November update just to be sure.

got the driver myself last night from XFX website. latest one they had... I feel like I shouldn't have to fuck around with voltages just to get the card to run as advertised. I've built computers since 96 and have NEVER changed voltage for even overclocking. This is ridiculous. 

[BattleToads]

5 minutes ago, Strike105X said:

 

There's issues with wattman and the latest AMD drivers on the RX580, uninstall drivers with DDU and install a November update just to be sure.

downloaded the november 8 driver from AMD. will use DDU and run these drivers. honestly I will be amazed if it helps. 

[BattleToads]

OK, rolled the driver back and we are doing much better. Much smoother gameplay than even the 1050 Ti and improved frame rates. I was able to run the ultra preset on PUBG @ 2560x1080 and still get 60+ FPS. It was amazing! 

 

That being said, there are a couple little things. I was playing Just Cause 3 and having some trouble with dropping min frames below 60. My CPU was at almost a constant 90%+ so I'm guessing that's just as many frames as it can handle. CS:GO was much smoother but still provided about the same framerate as the 1050 Ti. (about 90-120) 

 

While running PUBG (and only PUBG), I get a bit of coil whine depending on what I'm doing in the game. For example if I bring up the menu and click one tab, I will get coil whine. Click over to the other tab, it goes away... Very bizarre. 

 

MSI Afterburner overlay is also not reporting accurate data on PUBG and some things. Stating that the card is at 0% and only using 125 MB of VRAM for instance. 

 

Doing better so far, hopefully this trend continues. AMD, you damn near ruined my Christmas with your driver BS. The RX580 is pretty much your flagship card, please take better care when updating drivers! 

[BattleToads]

Just now, Strike105X said:

 

No its not about voltages, or setting them, lately at the end of each year AMD tries to implement various new features and options for their cards via the drivers, basically doing a big overhaul to their drivers, unfortunately this also means a fresh batch of bugs, last year i was hit, this year seems that RX580's users where hit, a part of the new features implemented in wattman (its part of the adrenaline package, you can tweak fan curves and it has various overclocking features) seem to be buggy making some RX580's unable to run at full performance (and if you try to mess with wattman in its current buggy state you fans will spin at high rpm), installing older drivers fixes it.

So far, so good with the November driver. MSI overlay is still showing funky GPU utilization. It will stay at 90-ish, then drop to 0 even though it is still putting out frames, then back up again and repeat. Is this normal or maybe just the overlay acting up? 

[BattleToads]

3 minutes ago, Strike105X said:

Try Unified GPU Usage Monitoring in the General Tab under settings, see if that fixes it.

 

Compatibility between MSI Afterburner and AMD has been all over the place since 2017(as in sometimes it works like it should sometimes its a buggy mess), i can't really say for sure which of the two is responsible for it, sorry i'm not really an MSI Afterburner user myself so while i will try to help, my help may end up being a bit limited.

Is there another program that is as good for monitoring HW in game? I don't need to OC my GPU anyway, my CPU can't keep up with it. 

[YaBoiWill]

If you have watt man pressing ctrl+shift+O should bring up a small overlay.